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was not planning on quitting caffeine but this just reinforces that. When I take a pre or other stuff I am not taking it for the feeling of caffeine as that is all gone. I take it for the other ingredients, the other benefits, and the benefits of caffeine (besides waking you up). Thank you for linking that
 
I have been noticing some constipation since start norco though. Is this common with any of the ingredients?. I have IBS so my stomach my react differently than others.

In general, sympathomimetics slow GI motility. Any stimulant should do this, but the effect should be mild.
 
On the very rare occasions they take stim breaks I wonder how miserable they are... I tend to hate the world
 
On the very rare occasions they take stim breaks I wonder how miserable they are... I tend to hate the world

I ran out of RL Alphamine, and my wife took my CL to work, so this week I am on an Alphamine break.
 
I ran out of RL Alphamine, and my wife took my CL to work, so this week I am on an Alphamine break.

An unexpected break? I would get frantic if I woke up without my Alphamine during a cut lol. I need to know the stim break is coming and taper down :P
 
Starting norco in a week. May try tapering down the last week to help with withdrawals.
Why cut out stims then? To lower tolerance enough to feel a kick from Norco?If my tolerance goes out of control, I found that just roughing it out for a little while with lower doses of stims seems to bring the tolerance back down and soon enough, the lower doses are effective again.I tried cold turkey'ing it like over 6 months ago? Lasted maybe 5 days? LoL. Then I also went through about a month were I unknowingly was taking in like around 800 mg's of caffeine a day (was using Cafe Mocha Elite Whey, didn't notice that it has 100 mg's of caffeine per serving until I basically finished the tub, even took it at night, so that together with my preoworkout, roughly 800 mg's of caffeine since I used 4 scoops of the protein a day, I was wondering why the preworkouts weren't as effective anymore, lol). I didn't cycle off stims in that instance. I just roughed it out with more sane stim dosages for a short while and eventually it worked itself out.
 
I've been considering trying glutamine for my IBS. I've read some people have completely got rid of IBS symptoms with it.

If you do try this let us know how it goes, would be appreciated
 
Why cut out stims then? To lower tolerance enough to feel a kick from Norco?If my tolerance goes out of control, I found that just roughing it out for a little while with lower doses of stims seems to bring the tolerance back down and soon enough, the lower doses are effective again.I tried cold turkey'ing it like over 6 months ago? Lasted maybe 5 days? LoL. Then I also went through about a month were I unknowingly was taking in like around 800 mg's of caffeine a day (was using Cafe Mocha Elite Whey, didn't notice that it has 100 mg's of caffeine per serving until I basically finished the tub, even took it at night, so that together with my preoworkout, roughly 800 mg's of caffeine since I used 4 scoops of the protein a day, I was wondering why the preworkouts weren't as effective anymore, lol). I didn't cycle off stims in that instance. I just roughed it out with more sane stim dosages for a short while and eventually it worked itself out.

Makes sense. Thanks. So your saying just lower caffeine dosage for a couple of weeks instead if completely getting rid of caffeine?
 
Makes sense. Thanks. So your saying just lower caffeine dosage for a couple of weeks instead if completely getting rid of caffeine?
Yeah, issue here is that the lower dose you probably won't feel much stimulation from :P At least you won't go through withdrawal and eventually it will work itself out. Also when I say lower, I mean like really, lower it, to like 100-200 mg's per day if we are talking about caffeine, maybe 300 mg's at most. Not go from like 800 mg's down to 400 mg's because that's still a lot of caffeine, lol.
 
Yeah, issue here is that the lower dose you probably won't feel much stimulation from :P At least you won't go through withdrawal and eventually it will work itself out. Also when I say lower, I mean like really, lower it, to like 100-200 mg's per day if we are talking about caffeine, maybe 300 mg's at most. Not go from like 800 mg's down to 400 mg's because that's still a lot of caffeine, lol.

The most caffeine i have taken in one day is probably like 400-600mg. 3 scoops of alphamine has 375mg. And i may have had a couple diet soft drinks that have 50mg a pop.
 
The most caffeine i have taken in one day is probably like 400-600mg. 3 scoops of alphamine has 375mg. And i may have had a couple diet soft drinks that have 50mg a pop.
I've never used more than 2 scoops of Alphamine personally (I usually follow label directions :P ). I also change up my preworkouts every other day or every few days (though the Bioshock I'm using, I basically use that most of the time now, maybe one workout out of the week I will use my Condense... possibly EVOL, treadmill day I've been using a scoop of Level II), that seems to keep the stuff working :PNext week when I start Norcodrene though, I'm just going to run the 2 bottles straight through. No other preworkouts. Depending on how I feel about the appetite suppression and energy level Norcodrene provides, I may take 12.5 mg's of ephedrine with my Norco dose.I think that at this point, if you are going to start Norco next week, you taking a stim break now or not would probably not make much of a difference. Plus it's the rest of the formula that counts with Norcodrene ;)
 
I rarely have over 300mg of caffeine lol. I feel inferior to you guize.
 
If i have over 300 in a sitting ill start shaking
how people have 800-1g a day is beyond me
i would never sleep.

I know right?

I had 400mg once and my hands were shaking so hard and my heart was racing

Btw, i take back what I said about C4. I was given a tub of it and actually enjoyed it
 
Cant knock it till ya try it :)
What flavor?

Fruit punch. Not my fav flavour in the world but the product itself was good.

I had tried it a while ago but the price here in NZ is killer
 
How was the crash?
I can't remember. 1000mg caffeine in one go seems crazy but if anyone has suffered from the chronic lethargy that an acute bout of IBD can bring they will understand.

That was 1000mg for me to feel functional, not to feel energetic. Sad times.
 
Used to take 1,000mg caffeine pre workout crew checking in.

Woah.

That is a nutty dose in bolus.

At that dose i may just be tempted to do a bootcamp
 
If i have over 300 in a sitting ill start shaking
how people have 800-1g a day is beyond me
i would never sleep.

1 Scoop pre = 225mg
3cap norco= 275mg
Diet mtn dew (2L /day, yes addicted)= 310mg

total = 810mg, not including some other tea and a cup of coffee here and there.
Back when old Jack3d with 1,3 was around I once took 6scoops and it was amazing, granted I could've died I think

Used to take 1,000mg caffeine pre workout crew checking in.
how did you not die?
 
Holy hell. Ya that's exactly why jack3d and 1,3 got the ban hammer. People being dumb

It was dumb of me lol, at least I did not go out and run. It was an arm day and i've been up for 36hrs but holy hell did it wake me up. Some people just took it even more overboard.
 
Took 2 scoops of fitmax and 1 Norco today, got stuck on the ice. Finally got out but roads were pretty bad so I turned around and came back. It's like I'm all dressed up with no where to go!. Boo hoo!. Winter must die now!. At least I'm happy, awake and alive!. Guess I'll get some extra recovery this week!. Couldn't even make it to the gym yesterday either!. I'm happy though!. Norco seems to make me happy!. I love you guys!

Norco: the happy pill

That's why I keep equipment at home if I cant make it out on a planned gym day.
 
That happy feeling has been happening since day 1? Because I know with Alphamine it did the same with me but it sort of diminished after 4 weeks or so. Never got that happy feeling from Alphamine since the first time.
 
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