PES High Volume

That moment you are down to just a few scoops of HV and forgot to include it in your recent order. Damn it!
 
LiveToLift said:
That moment you are down to just a few scoops of HV and forgot to include it in your recent order. Damn it!
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I know the feeling. Starting to regret sampling it out to so many people at the gym lol.
 
chedapalooza said:
Can you mix high volume target(1cap) and alphamine at the same time or will the GMS offset some of the fat burning of the latter two?
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Nope should be fine.
 
chedapalooza said:
Can you mix high volume target(1cap) and alphamine at the same time or will the GMS offset some of the fat burning of the latter two?
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I've used that exact combo just with a single scoop of Alphamine instead of my usual amount.
 
Just ordered some, along with some alphamine. First time for either, my body doesn't respond well with stim pre's anymore. Hope this is good.
 
rpm57 said:
Just ordered some, along with some alphamine. First time for either, my body doesn't respond well with stim pre's anymore. Hope this is good.
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What type of response do you typically get out of curiosity? Alphamine has an extremely clean smooth feel to it. You will be surprised.
 
LiveToLift said:
What type of response do you typically get out of curiosity? Alphamine has an extremely clean smooth feel to it. You will be surprised.
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Seems over the last few years I've taken C4 and NO explode and I'll get some weird feelings in my chest and every once in a while I'll get dizzy and light headed. I've been lifting and taking PWO for 15 years.

I've never had a stim free PWO, so we shall see!
 
rpm57 said:
Seems over the last few years I've taken C4 and NO explode and I'll get some weird feelings in my chest and every once in a while I'll get dizzy and light headed. I've been lifting and taking PWO for 15 years.

I've never had a stim free PWO, so we shall see!
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Make sure you're properly hydrated because it would explain some of those symptoms (in addition to stims). Try to not over do it with the High Volume (i.e. do not exceed the recommended dosage) as well as it does decrease BP (which may cause dizziness and feeling light headed).
 
I'm up to 1.5 gal water a day. Been on clen for almost 2 weeks. My symptoms have decreased to nothing. I also haven't had any caffeine during this run either!
 
HITFrank said:
Why is the vitamin-C added? Shouldn't vitamin-C be taken AFTER workout?
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It should be in any formula with nitrates.
(Prevent formation of nitrosamines)


And should NOT be used after a workout
(We want inflammation peri workout to improve hyperyrophy)
 
HITFrank said:
Why is the vitamin-C added? Shouldn't vitamin-C be taken AFTER workout?
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Driven2lift said:
It should be in any formula with nitrates.
(Prevent formation of nitrosamines)

And should NOT be used after a workout
(We want inflammation peri workout to improve hyperyrophy)
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Driven's got it.

Vitamin C is included due to the nitrates, and high amounts of antioxidants should generally be avoided around training.
 
Holy hell, that really was a 'high volume' arm workout lol.

I wonder how many people will watch this video and follow the workout an hour before hitting the clubs on a Friday night. ;)
 
So vitamin C is no bueno post workout? Forgot where I initially read it but I've always taken the chewables right after work out.
Stop it?
 
ikeNball said:
So vitamin C is no bueno post workout? Forgot where I initially read it but I've always taken the chewables right after work out. Stop it?
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Stop it, yes.

Take it at other times in the day
 
Driven2lift said:
It should be in any formula with nitrates. (Prevent formation of nitrosamines) And should NOT be used after a workout (We want inflammation peri workout to improve hyperyrophy)
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Thanks for the quick reply!

Won't the vitamin-C be active in the body for some time when taken Pre-workout?
 
HITFrank said:
Thanks for the quick reply!

Won't the vitamin-C be active in the body for some time when taken Pre-workout?
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I wouldn't be concerned with the small amount in HV. Just try to avoid large doses of vit C around training.
 
ikeNball said:
What has it been doing to me post workout? Thought that it would help control cortisol levels
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On top of wanting inflammation, you also want cortisol

They are demonized but our bodies produce them for good reasons
 
chedapalooza said:
should I have my gf break my balls after a good lift?? That'll give a nice rise :P
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Lol if you like that kind of thing...

There are all kinds of theories about benefits on hormone levels for hypertrophy from sex

That option sounds more fun
 
Garyboy said:
For anyone in the know, is it not advised to take this and liquid cialis in the same day? Thanks for your input.
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I wouldn't advise taking taking them together, but then personally I wouldn't recommend taking any supplement that affects NO with PDE5 drugs.
 
paula said:
Ok to stack this with iforce maxout? Even at 1scoop of HV?
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Max is right.

You would have to be using half servings of each, otherwise we wouldn't recommend it due to the nitrates.
 
paula said:
What side effect do i notice if taking too much nitrates?
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Auslifter said:
headaches
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This, as well as lightheadedness, dizziness, nausea, and general weakness/fatigue. It's basically induced hypotension.

In a completely anecdotal capacity that doesn't constitute advice, I'll say it's been my experience that nitrate tolerance is highly individual and, like other sensitivity-attuned supplements like yohimbine, it's not a bad idea to find your own sweet spot. I eat a lot of nitrate-rich foods on a very regular basis (several pounds of veggies per day) and have no trouble tolerating full doses of multiple nitrate-enriched supplements despite being a lightweight; meanwhile, I know some guys significantly bigger than me on the typical "French fries are my only vegetables" diet who get queasy with just one full dose.
 
I have never had any side effects from nitrate doses contained within supplements. :)
 
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