PES High Volume

DarthGainer said:
Auslifter I'm sure your right and yeah I am a loyal customer. Booneman read Auslifters post, As you can probably see he wasn't crying when he read my post, Don't worry keep hoping you dream of becoming A PES rep will come true. That was very hurtful, The blood flow is terrible at the moment and I can't find any chocolate in the house, love you xxx
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Haha touché.
 
The Solution said:
But even if it was a reformulation why would you not make it a priority to stock your own website and warehouse first? I understand the population wants high volume, but your main source and main webpage is left deserted to other vendors and online retailers. Just curious why you would not put it up on your website first and foremost before going to outside vendors.
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Why are you so curious about this Bob lol. The insider = PES website. Most sales are via insider + retailers. So most product goes to these two sources
 
DarthGainer said:
The amount of building and hyping up the products on this and another forum is getting **** and i mean PES reps then to say its the one flavour and limited to the guys that are loyal customers..........

I'm a big fan of PES products, I use Alphamine, Norcodrene, Amino IV on the regular. I have held off for a while buying any pre products to support the company because you guys seem to give a **** about putting ingredients into products that work. I'm in the UK so either pay a fortune over here or order from the us and get customs charges 8/10 orders and wait what feels like a lifetime to receive the products and thats not your fault but just saying.

If these threads where not hyped up by reps (not counting the other posts squeezed into other threads) then fair enough you don't owe us anything but when its hyped up like this?

Its honestly putting me off, But who cares. Let the onslaught of nut huggers, PES rep wannabes begin.....

Bye.
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Firstly this is coming from someone (me) who virtually never hypes PES products.

Now, to my point:

If you looked at the most hyped brands across all the industry, what do you see? Crap. I think this is a relatively exciting time because science-backed products are finally getting some hype to compete with the big dogs. You've seen muscletech even reformulate their whole lineup to keep up with the new trend of delivering products that actually work to consumers. So I will never be opposed to this particular hype and frankly want it to roll on as much as possible. This is finally our chance to crack the mainstream using a message that isn't "build 10 lbs of muscle in 10 days" but rather focuses on using first-ever-seen ingredients as effectively and synergistically as possible. The company itself is called Physique Enhancing Science for good reason. And I think when you see the HV profile, you'll at least understand the hype, because logistically it is the best stim-free preworkout product ever.
 
I agree = I have held off for a while buying any pre products to support the company because you guys seem to give a **** about putting ingredients into products that work.

I understand the mainstream thing. It can only be a good thing for everyone.

Not going to agree on the hype side though, Theres ways to go about it. Every insider is hyped not just this one and it feels rep driven, Bumps for no reason with some silly comment just to get it bumped. Can it not be left to customers/fans to do the bumping if theres enough interest in the product?
The label does not get released until the last moment but before hand we are told it will be limited and 1 flavour, Then theres a buying frenzy in the hope to get some. Does not sit well.
 
USPlabsRep said:
probably because direct sales are less than 1 percent of total sales for most retailed brands.
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^^ That would be why. It seems like for PES it would be a larger amount of sales due to the insider or like USP with IC releases.
Just trying to learn more about the supplement industry as a whole.

mr.cooper69 said:
Why are you so curious about this Bob lol. The insider = PES website. Most sales are via insider + retailers. So most product goes to these two sources
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schizm said:
Sorry, eating a s'more...you were saying?



from reading your pm, it's both...and in need of some counseling I sense...no judgements here man... ;)
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I was referring to your Retro Avatar silly goose. (I say retro only because it has been around longer than even mine... and that is a minute)
 
DarthGainer said:
I agree = I have held off for a while buying any pre products to support the company because you guys seem to give a **** about putting ingredients into products that work.

I understand the mainstream thing. It can only be a good thing for everyone.

Not going to agree on the hype side though, Theres ways to go about it. Every insider is hyped not just this one and it feels rep driven, Bumps for no reason with some silly comment just to get it bumped. Can it not be left to customers/fans to do the bumping if theres enough interest in the product?
The label does not get released until the last moment but before hand we are told it will be limited and 1 flavour, Then theres a buying frenzy in the hope to get some. Does not sit well.
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I think you still don't understand, the support and "reps" are still customers, they are still pretty much fans of the brand. im not a rep and i still bump threads or comment allot. its the fan base already just because reps keep threads bumped so what, as you just read coops post, HV is going to be a very innovative and soild product with good doses of quality novel ingredients, and PES is still not super mainstream as posted above like Muscle Tech are which is why it is harder for them to keep up with growing demand im sure right now, as consumers catch on to products that finally work and provide no rubbish claims, and will aid you in your training and not fill your head with false hopes, so missing out and having to wait for 1 flavor that's been sold out to retailers isn't that big of a deal.

and remember this is a "reformulated" version of a product that you already knew the profile of, think about it for a moment why take something that worked so well and hype it again, because they have clearly pimped it out into a monster. which is why it sits fine with me, if reps do some bumping to get others excited for it.
 
DarthGainer said:
I agree = I have held off for a while buying any pre products to support the company because you guys seem to give a **** about putting ingredients into products that work.

I understand the mainstream thing. It can only be a good thing for everyone.

Not going to agree on the hype side though, Theres ways to go about it. Every insider is hyped not just this one and it feels rep driven, Bumps for no reason with some silly comment just to get it bumped. Can it not be left to customers/fans to do the bumping if theres enough interest in the product?
The label does not get released until the last moment but before hand we are told it will be limited and 1 flavour, Then theres a buying frenzy in the hope to get some. Does not sit well.
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The silly comments are because we like BSing with people. It is a forum, people BS. Of course PES reps will be in PES threads, just a natural progression. After so many pages, people get off topic and zing each other. People post for just general camaraderie most of the time, not to bump a thread.
 
I will have a review up tonight or in the morning, HOWEVER. .... No one should be disappointed with paradise cooler.

In the Alphamine flavor thread, myself and others mentioned pineapple orange. Paradise cooler HV has a pineapple orange, maybe even hit of mango flavor, it is amazing.

I might as well do slight review, although wife is starring at me to hurry up lol.

Taste 10/10 I Love tropical drinks, so keep that in mind as well. No homo. I started with 8oz water, then added few more oz. Tasted good either way.

Pump: 10/10 OG HV was my favorite non stim, I feel it's safe to say this one packs even more pump. Seems to have that penor pump going strong as well, gotta love that.

Mixability: 10/10 I hate looking like just a fan boy, but unlike OG HV this mixes 100% few shakes in shaker.

Focus: 7/10. Obviously being non stim there isn't going to be that huge focus like you would get from high stims. However, I was pretty focused and ready to go. This was hardest to judge, because I was amped to being trying PES version.

Overall as if there was any doubt, the best non stim got even better.
 
cubsfan815 said:
I will have a review up tonight or in the morning, HOWEVER. .... No one should be disappointed with paradise cooler. In the Alphamine flavor thread, myself and others mentioned pineapple orange. Paradise cooler HV has a pineapple orange, maybe even hit of mango flavor, it is amazing. I might as well do slight review, although wife is starring at me to hurry up lol. Taste 10/10 I Love tropical drinks, so keep that in mind as well. No homo. I started with 8oz water, then added few more oz. Tasted good either way. Pump: 10/10 OG HV was my favorite non stim, I feel it's safe to say this one packs even more pump. Seems to have that penor pump going strong as well, gotta love that. Mixability: 10/10 I hate looking like just a fan boy, but unlike OG HV this mixes 100% few shakes in shaker. Focus: 7/10. Obviously being non stim there isn't going to be that huge focus like you would get from high stims. However, I was pretty focused and ready to go. This was hardest to judge, because I was amped to being trying PES version. Overall as if there was any doubt, the best non stim got even better.
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Thanks for the review cubsfan!!
 
cubsfan815 said:
I will have a review up tonight or in the morning, HOWEVER. .... No one should be disappointed with paradise cooler. In the Alphamine flavor thread, myself and others mentioned pineapple orange. Paradise cooler HV has a pineapple orange, maybe even hit of mango flavor, it is amazing. I might as well do slight review, although wife is starring at me to hurry up lol. Taste 10/10 I Love tropical drinks, so keep that in mind as well. No homo. I started with 8oz water, then added few more oz. Tasted good either way. Pump: 10/10 OG HV was my favorite non stim, I feel it's safe to say this one packs even more pump. Seems to have that penor pump going strong as well, gotta love that. Mixability: 10/10 I hate looking like just a fan boy, but unlike OG HV this mixes 100% few shakes in shaker. Focus: 7/10. Obviously being non stim there isn't going to be that huge focus like you would get from high stims. However, I was pretty focused and ready to go. This was hardest to judge, because I was amped to being trying PES version. Overall as if there was any doubt, the best non stim got even better.
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Thank you for dropping this review in here brother. You all have me very excited to get my hands on this new formula and flavoring!
 
Good reviews. Stoked to try the new flavors. Good thing my direct deposit goes in tonight :)
 
Darth, I think it also helps to understand the personalities of our reps. We have a rep group obviously where we exchange ideas and whatnot, and guys like LiveToLift and kbayne are going nuts with posts there too. Who's reading those posts? Just other PES reps. These guys are genuinely energetic and enthusiastic dudes, almost all their messages even to me personally have this exclamatory-like tone. Hell I get messages from livetolift at like 4 am in the morning asking about what's on the horizon. No one is more hyped up than the people who work so hard in order to get to use these products: the reps.
 
To add to what you said, Coop, I feel like PES products (amongst some other brands) speak for themselves. I get the vibe that the reps are here to genuinely answer questions and inform us and not sell or bash other brands. You guys stand behind your products because they work instead of trying to convince us that they work. Stay classy fellas!
 
I Can't wait to mix paradise cooler HV with mango alphamine xD had 4 scoops today lmfao so tasty dying for magno amino iv, Im kind of speculating the HV Flavours could be like the mango splash as paradise cooler/ and blue berry erase pro like or similar to blue frost hv, possibly i could be wrong though

from the tease pic of the tub

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looks like its saying how you can create a Thermo Pump stack :P (aka alphamine + HV). along with confirming citrulline
 
Auslifter said:
I Can't wait to mix paradise cooler HV with mango alphamine xD had 4 scoops today lmfao so tasty dying for magno amino iv, Im kind of speculating the HV Flavours could be like the mango splash as paradise cooler/ and blue berry erase pro like or similar to blue frost hv, possibly i could be wrong though from the tease pic of the tub looks like its saying how you can create a Thermo Pump stack :P (aka alphamine + HV). along with confirming citrulline
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I'm pretty jealous that you have those flavors to add to the mix list! Mango Alphamine sounds amazing.
 
Ryan's review of paradise cooler flavour have me so excited lol.

Darthgainer, I understand your point, please keep in mind the following:
- I am a pump product whore. I regularly combine products to receive doses used in High Volume. I know what the profile is which excites me (possibly even more) than the end consumer because I know for a fact it is amazing.
- Our release has been delayed slightly by manufacturers. Therefore the threads leading up to this release are even longer than intended but we couldn't have known that from the offset.
- We have a friendly community here. A lot of forum users know me and the team by first name. This of course leads to friendly banter in the threads which is sometimes off topic. You should never see our reps replying 'bump' to a thread like other companies often do. If this happens then I apologise.

We thank you for supporting PES and expressing your concerns. Should you wish to discuss this further you are welcome to send me a message on here or email [email protected]. :)
 
DAdams91982 said:
I was referring to your Retro Avatar silly goose. (I say retro only because it has been around longer than even mine... and that is a minute)
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Ha! Ya, I figured ;) was just trying to imply some sort of weird deviancey on your part, fell flat though, must not have been on my A game :doh:
But ya, that avi has to be at least 7 yrs old now, snnnap!
 
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