Living_tribunal
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First log on here (new member). Reason for posting this is A.) feedback/insight from others and B.) to create a repository for others starting a similar protocol.
About myself:
I was always skinny growing up, walking weight was 135-140lbs, 10%bf at 5'8", so let's just say small. Around the middle of college I got tired of it and started lifting often. I never took it serious enough to keep everything perfect but I was consistent enough to gain ~25lbs of muscle in a four year period naturally lifting 3-4 days a week.
I stopped lifting and fitness altogether for the last 3 years because of life. As predicted, I lost most of it and got impressively skinny fat.
3-4 months ago I decided to get back into it and have been taking it pretty seriously since. I've been on a 6 day PPL split, hitting it as hard as possible. I have had one cheat day in this time and have consumed less than 10 drinks of booze as well. While my gains have come back very fast (even faster than they did as a newbie surprisingly) and the fat loss has gone smoothly (on a cut), it will still take another 8 months- year to get close to where I was 3 years ago. After much thought, I have decided to start some minor enhancement to speed up the process of getting back my old stats. I've been timid to do so because I suffer from male pattern baldness and have never done anything like this before.
Snapshot of my progress:
-Stats 3 years ago: 160lbs, 12% bf.
-Stats 3 months ago: 165lbs, 25% bf.
-Stats today: 157lbs, 16% bf.
Status photos are posted below.
Goals:
I'm not looking to add crazy amounts of muscle, just want to get close to where I was at before while minimizing potential impact on hair loss and additional side-effects. I'm completely fine if I only gain 1-2lbs of muscle, even less, as long as the recomp is easier. Dieting for the last 4 months has definitely been a slog. My take is I've been able to continue to gain muscle while on a cut, a moderate ostarine cycle should help speed things up a little.
Protocol:
I started gw 0742 about 3 weeks ago to aid with my cut. It's been a complete game changer even at a low dose of 7mg daily. I'm currently in the process of sourcing everything else in the title and getting bloods done. I drank quite a bit over the weekend for St. Paddies day parade so want to give a couple of days before I go in. Below is the protocol I will start once everything has been sourced and blood work checks out.
Week 1:
-Ostarine 10mg daily.
-Dermacrine 2 pumps daily.
-GW-0742 continue with 7-10mg a day (if necessary).
Week 2:
-Ostarine 15mg daily.
-Dermacrine 2 pumps daily.
-GW-0742 continue with 7-10mg a day (if necessary).
Week 3:
-Ostarine 20mg daily.
-Dermacrine 3 pumps daily.
-GW-0742 continue with 7-10mg a day (if necessary).
Week 4:
-Ostarine 20mg daily.
-Dermacrine 3 pumps daily.
-GW-0742 continue with 7-10mg a day (if necessary).
Week 5:
-Ostarine 20mg daily.
-Dermacrine 3 pumps daily.
-GW-0742 continue with 7-10mg a day (if necessary).
Week 6:
-Ostarine 20mg daily.
-Dermacrine 3 pumps daily.
-GW-0742 continue with 7-10mg a day (if necessary).
-Enclomaphine- Potentially start, depending on if suppression is going on, 12.5mg.
Week 7:
-Ostarine 20mg daily.
-Dermacrine 3 pumps daily.
-GW-0742 continue with 7-10mg a day (if necessary).
-Enclomaphine- Potentially start, depending on if suppression is going on, 12.5mg.
Week 8:
-Ostarine 20mg daily.
-Dermacrine 3 pumps daily.
-GW-0742 continue with 7-10mg a day (if necessary).
-Enclomaphine- Potentially start, depending on if suppression is going on, 12.5mg.
I know this is not the most intense cycle, and I'm sure I will get a lot of recommendations to just do test. After the research I've done however, it seems like these supplements fall in line with my goals of assistance with getting my gains back while minimizing side-effects, namely mpb.
I will start posting weekly logs once I begin, which should start about a week or two from now. In the mean time, I'd love to hear any feedback or insight from others. I'm really open to anything, the more you know, the better.
About myself:
I was always skinny growing up, walking weight was 135-140lbs, 10%bf at 5'8", so let's just say small. Around the middle of college I got tired of it and started lifting often. I never took it serious enough to keep everything perfect but I was consistent enough to gain ~25lbs of muscle in a four year period naturally lifting 3-4 days a week.
I stopped lifting and fitness altogether for the last 3 years because of life. As predicted, I lost most of it and got impressively skinny fat.
3-4 months ago I decided to get back into it and have been taking it pretty seriously since. I've been on a 6 day PPL split, hitting it as hard as possible. I have had one cheat day in this time and have consumed less than 10 drinks of booze as well. While my gains have come back very fast (even faster than they did as a newbie surprisingly) and the fat loss has gone smoothly (on a cut), it will still take another 8 months- year to get close to where I was 3 years ago. After much thought, I have decided to start some minor enhancement to speed up the process of getting back my old stats. I've been timid to do so because I suffer from male pattern baldness and have never done anything like this before.
Snapshot of my progress:
-Stats 3 years ago: 160lbs, 12% bf.
-Stats 3 months ago: 165lbs, 25% bf.
-Stats today: 157lbs, 16% bf.
Status photos are posted below.
Goals:
I'm not looking to add crazy amounts of muscle, just want to get close to where I was at before while minimizing potential impact on hair loss and additional side-effects. I'm completely fine if I only gain 1-2lbs of muscle, even less, as long as the recomp is easier. Dieting for the last 4 months has definitely been a slog. My take is I've been able to continue to gain muscle while on a cut, a moderate ostarine cycle should help speed things up a little.
Protocol:
I started gw 0742 about 3 weeks ago to aid with my cut. It's been a complete game changer even at a low dose of 7mg daily. I'm currently in the process of sourcing everything else in the title and getting bloods done. I drank quite a bit over the weekend for St. Paddies day parade so want to give a couple of days before I go in. Below is the protocol I will start once everything has been sourced and blood work checks out.
Week 1:
-Ostarine 10mg daily.
-Dermacrine 2 pumps daily.
-GW-0742 continue with 7-10mg a day (if necessary).
Week 2:
-Ostarine 15mg daily.
-Dermacrine 2 pumps daily.
-GW-0742 continue with 7-10mg a day (if necessary).
Week 3:
-Ostarine 20mg daily.
-Dermacrine 3 pumps daily.
-GW-0742 continue with 7-10mg a day (if necessary).
Week 4:
-Ostarine 20mg daily.
-Dermacrine 3 pumps daily.
-GW-0742 continue with 7-10mg a day (if necessary).
Week 5:
-Ostarine 20mg daily.
-Dermacrine 3 pumps daily.
-GW-0742 continue with 7-10mg a day (if necessary).
Week 6:
-Ostarine 20mg daily.
-Dermacrine 3 pumps daily.
-GW-0742 continue with 7-10mg a day (if necessary).
-Enclomaphine- Potentially start, depending on if suppression is going on, 12.5mg.
Week 7:
-Ostarine 20mg daily.
-Dermacrine 3 pumps daily.
-GW-0742 continue with 7-10mg a day (if necessary).
-Enclomaphine- Potentially start, depending on if suppression is going on, 12.5mg.
Week 8:
-Ostarine 20mg daily.
-Dermacrine 3 pumps daily.
-GW-0742 continue with 7-10mg a day (if necessary).
-Enclomaphine- Potentially start, depending on if suppression is going on, 12.5mg.
I know this is not the most intense cycle, and I'm sure I will get a lot of recommendations to just do test. After the research I've done however, it seems like these supplements fall in line with my goals of assistance with getting my gains back while minimizing side-effects, namely mpb.
I will start posting weekly logs once I begin, which should start about a week or two from now. In the mean time, I'd love to hear any feedback or insight from others. I'm really open to anything, the more you know, the better.
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