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OSTA Rx – COMING SOON!

started mine saturday..and sprained my wrist the same day. ****. should be good by the end of the week hopefully..any one kknow when ostarine usually starts taking effect?
 
scw538 said:
Just got confirmation email. FINALLY shipping.
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Same here. The delay has worked out ok for me because I've been sick for over a week or so - sinus infections/bronchitis SUX!

I'm still bouncing around the best way to run this. I'm going on vacation in 2 months. My main motivation for running Osta was for its joint/tendon benefits. Thought maybe I could get rid of some tendonitis and joint pain with the Osta, and then a hit a 4 week epi cycle really hard before vacation. So that would be 4 weeks of Osta at 20mg, followed by 4 weeks of epi at 30-40mg, then starting pct while on vacation. I always "peak" during the first week of pct, and then things kinda suck thru weeks 2-4 of pct.

I think most people would probably hit the epi cycle first, followed by Osta as part of their pct, but I don't know how I'm going to respond to the Osta. If I do respond well to it (some weight gain, leaning effects), then I might just buy a second bottle, and run it for 8 weeks, and drop the epi cycle until mid summer.

Also, what kind of strength gains does Ostarine typically induce?
 
hyperCat said:
Same here. The delay has worked out ok for me because I've been sick for over a week or so - sinus infections/bronchitis SUX!

I'm still bouncing around the best way to run this. I'm going on vacation in 2 months. My main motivation for running Osta was for its joint/tendon benefits. Thought maybe I could get rid of some tendonitis and joint pain with the Osta, and then a hit a 4 week epi cycle really hard before vacation. So that would be 4 weeks of Osta at 20mg, followed by 4 weeks of epi at 30-40mg, then starting pct while on vacation. I always "peak" during the first week of pct, and then things kinda suck thru weeks 2-4 of pct.

I think most people would probably hit the epi cycle first, followed by Osta as part of their pct, but I don't know how I'm going to respond to the Osta. If I do respond well to it (some weight gain, leaning effects), then I might just buy a second bottle, and run it for 8 weeks, and drop the epi cycle until mid summer.

Also, what kind of strength gains does Ostarine typically induce?
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bronchitis?! aint nobody got time for that!!
 
I will be logging this product, have a journal in the training section.
Stay tuned!
 
Yeah I was just going through the entire thread again to find an answer to the question we both have. I did find the answer. It takes at least 3 weeks for it to kick. Supposedly, at least that is what I read in this thread. Also for the first few pages they were recommending 30mg a day and then towards the end of the thread they seem to have changed their minds and say 20 mg a day.
 
so 3 weeks to kick in? interesting. and if they originally wanted to go 30 im guessing that its not too supressive at that dose. possible just trying to save some moolah
 
im kinda on the fence about buying another bottle - i wish there were some completed logs to reference. i may just bright the bullet and find out myself, as i feel cheated out of my first 3 weeks due to the injury.
 
steppinRazor said:
im kinda on the fence about buying another bottle - i wish there were some completed logs to reference. i may just bright the bullet and find out myself, as i feel cheated out of my first 3 weeks due to the injury.
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I would buy a 2nd, but run it at suggested dose for 8 weeks.
 
IronMagLabs said:
30mg per day for 30 days (u could go up to 50mg daily), pricing is not set but MSRP will probably be around $75.99, it's an expensive compound.
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RickRock13 said:
I'm definitely interested in peoples thoughts on this. I love Ostarine myself (running it now actually) but if people are running this at a legit 30mg per day IT DOES CAUSE SHUTDOWN. 25mg per day from a Research company causes some shutdown so I don't see how this won't since it is the same compound. A mild PCT (not necessarily a SERM) is what I think should be used after Ostarine at these doses
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Torobestia said:
I'm real excited for this. How long of a cycle do you think will one be able to run with one bottle at the rx'd dosage (30mg)? It'd be cool if the bottle had enough for at least 6 weeks. Just poking to see what your thoughts are on this or if it's too early to tell.
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IronMagLabs said:
this is the compound we will be using: 4-cyanophenoxy)-N-[4-cyano-3-(trifluoromethyl)phenyl]-2-hydroxy-2-methylpropanamide)

if you know our reputation then you know our products contain what they say, EVERY compound we use gets independently tested in the USA before we make a product. yes it's the real deal, it will be a 90 count bottle, 10mg per cap, so like any product the suggested use would be 1 capsule up to 3 times daily. some may be fine at 10mg daily others might go up to 30mg or higher.

IronMagLabs is one of the few companies left pushing the envelope and putting out REAL products that work.
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IronMagLabs said:
agreed, we are recommending 10-30mg per day.
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steppinRazor said:
so 3 weeks to kick in? interesting. and if they originally wanted to go 30 im guessing that its not too supressive at that dose. possible just trying to save some moolah
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I quoted all I could find from pages 1-9 on the dosing that was suggested previously.
 
T-Bone said:
So I guess at the last minute they decided to do 6.6mg per cap instead of 10. Boo to that.
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Some interesting stuff you pulled up..I find it kinda funny they told me the 30 mg was a typo, when it clearly was not.

On another note Rick knows his osta..makes me wonder how suppressive at 30 are we talking here?
 
steppinRazor said:
Some interesting stuff you pulled up..I find it kinda funny they told me the 30 mg was a typo, when it clearly was not.

On another note Rick knows his osta..makes me wonder how suppressive at 30 are we talking here?
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Yeah Rick did say that you wouldn't need a SERM though. Also I do find it kind of shady that at first they said 30mg and then they changed it right before releasing it. Makes me wonder if I should just save my money for protein.
 
T-Bone said:
Yeah Rick did say that you wouldn't need a SERM though. Also I do find it kind of shady that at first they said 30mg and then they changed it right before releasing it. Makes me wonder if I should just save my money for protein.
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There really is no true answer, studies were done with 3mg. Bodybuilders are just making shyt up on the fly.

Really, 20mg should suffice, 30mg may or may not work better, who knows and it may vary due to anacdotal individual responses which is not the greatest thing to go by.
 
ax1 said:
There really is no true answer, studies were done with 3mg. Bodybuilders are just making shyt up on the fly.

Really, 20mg should suffice, 30mg may or may not work better, who knows and it may vary due to anacdotal individual responses which is not the greatest thing to go by.
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Anecdotal is all one really can go by, sadly, or at least it's the best, unless you want to toss anything everyone's said out the window. I don't see a problem looking at everything skeptically, but I don't know about dismissing everything (not saying that's what you're implying). But you make a good point, a lot of us are making up a lot of stuff, but a few things that can be said about Ostarine:

1) more is not necessarily better. Most effects look to cap out around 25-35mg, whereas sides definitely become an issue. At least one user reported complete shutdown using 50mg for 8 weeks.
2) 20mg for 6-8 week cycles wont do a lot of harm to your HPGA. Test boosters or AIs could be recommended towards the end of the cycle, though (like last 2 weeks)
3) Definitely takes about 2 solid weeks of dosing to start seeing effects. I don't even think Outstanding noted much until then. I think only RussianStar noted anabolic effects earlier, but you gotta take what he says with a grain of salt since he has some vested interests in research chemicals. Anyways, you may start seeing your cardio endurance shoot up maybe after a week, but that's about it.
4) it works

Number 4 is a little shady, since as has been insightfully suggested and noted, some of the ostarine products out there before OstaRX were tainted. But some people took it and did not get shut down, and they saw hormonal-like gains (more than that of an AI). So I think it's safe to say ostarine works, and it's probably unlikely that those that took straight, untainted osta, took overdosed osta ... since the tendency was so far to underdose it, if anything =p
 
steppinRazor said:
i will note that cardio has been a breeze lately. i usually hate running.
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Cool news.

I am going to edit my post since I made that comment seem like it would apply to everyone, when I should have made it clear that a lot of people saw this effect, but it may not be guaranteed.

FWIW I ran osta once before, and one really cool thing is even after I took it, I never lost that increased cardio endurance. I did however lose the size, but then again I used it to cut, and I continued my cut afterwards. *shrug*
 
T-Bone said:
What I find shady is the change from 30mg to 20mg, which wasn't apparent until after the product was released.
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I dont think its a big deal, the label is just a suggestion, the user is free to do what they want. I wouldnt get too caught up in that, its not a big deal. The product is there nobody has to buy it.

They may have realized that it would be better marketed at a certain price for a certain quantity and most importantly make it profitable. This is one scenario. Also, as I have stated all these dosing protocols are going by by the fly, maybe they decided to go at a lower effective dose to consider limiting potential sides with the consumer.

Its kinda like the 11-oxo days, if you really wanted some anabolic response you would be buying 6-7 bottles for a 4 week cycle although we all know the minimum suggested dose still had an effect.

Anyways I really wouldnt worry about it, you can take 10mg a day and get an effect.

Edit: Above is strictly my own personal opinion
 
ax1 said:
I dont think its a big deal, the label is just a suggestion, the user is free to do what they want. I wouldnt get too caught up in that, its not a big deal. The product is there nobody has to buy it.

They may have realized that it would be better marketed at a certain price for a certain quantity and most importantly make it profitable. This is one scenario. Also, as I have stated all these dosing protocols are going by by the fly, maybe they decided to go at a lower effective dose to consider limiting potential sides with the consumer.

Its kinda like the 11-oxo days, if you really wanted some anabolic response you would be buying 6-7 bottles for a 4 week cycle although we all know the minimum suggested dose still had an effect.

Anyways I really wouldnt worry about it, you can take 10mg a day and get an effect.

Edit: Above is strictly my own personal opinion
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True. There's also the fact that they decided to pack extra stuff in the ostarine tabs to make sure it made it to the shelves, so plans overall were changed. I don't think it's unusual for that to happen. Can you elaborate on what you think is shady about the change from 30mg to 20mg? Is it the rep changing what he said to make it seem like he meant 20mg the whole time? I can't comment on his intentions.
 
T-Bone said:
What I find shady is the change from 30mg to 20mg, which wasn't apparent until after the product was released.
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It was done because they had to add other "extracts" to make it a blend and thus make it easier to sell as a "dietary supplement". If they kept it at 30 mg per day and added the extras that would have raised the price higher and sales would have gone down as a result.
 
Torobestia said:
True. There's also the fact that they decided to pack extra stuff in the ostarine tabs to make sure it made it to the shelves, so plans overall were changed. I don't think it's unusual for that to happen. Can you elaborate on what you think is shady about the change from 30mg to 20mg? Is it the rep changing what he said to make it seem like he meant 20mg the whole time? I can't comment on his intentions.
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Guys, I feel like this whole situation is being blown out of proportion. Let us take a step back and look at it again.

1) If a rep did make a mistake in saying the recommended dosage is 30mg, then it was simply mistake--or possibly a reflection of his personal dosing protocol, a misunderstanding, or something of that nature.

2) If IML was initially going to role out the product at 30mg (I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS THE CASE) and later changed it to 20mg then there is nothing shady about that. There could have been a multitude of reasons for such a change. Furthermore this could have been a move to limit side effects. To quote an IM article which refers to Osta:
"SARM’s (selective androgen receptor modulators). SARMS were designed to provide steroid-like effects without the side effects found in AAS, but the true value of this compound (for PCT purposes) is found in the fact that it does not lead to suppression of natural testosterone production when administered at dosages of 25 mg per day or less (or at least not to any significant degree)." Invalid Link Removed

3) As someone else mentioned there is no one stopping you from running it at a higher dosage, however this could lead to suppression and more side effects.

As I mentioned before I am running this product, and am keeping a journal as well if anyone is interested:
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/training-forum/197324-iron-man-thread-7.html
 
kBrown said:
Guys, I feel like this whole situation is being blown out of proportion. Let us take a step back and look at it again.

1) If a rep did make a mistake in saying the recommended dosage is 30mg, then it was simply mistake--or possibly a reflection of his personal dosing protocol, a misunderstanding, or something of that nature.

2) If IML was initially going to role out the product at 30mg (I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS THE CASE) and later changed it to 20mg then there is nothing shady about that. There could have been a multitude of reasons for such a change. Furthermore this could have been a move to limit side effects. To quote an IM article which refers to Osta:
"SARM’s (selective androgen receptor modulators). SARMS were designed to provide steroid-like effects without the side effects found in AAS, but the true value of this compound (for PCT purposes) is found in the fact that it does not lead to suppression of natural testosterone production when administered at dosages of 25 mg per day or less (or at least not to any significant degree)." Invalid Link Removed

3) As someone else mentioned there is no one stopping you from running it at a higher dosage, however this could lead to suppression and more side effects.

As I mentioned before I am running this product, and am keeping a journal as well if anyone is interested:
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/training-forum/197324-iron-man-thread-7.html
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Agreed. Didn't know you were running it, btw. I have been following your journal, just not for the past 5 days. Guess I'll have to check it out again!
 
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