OraTropin cycle log

Hey Sledge -- I'm 38 now, but it happened 20 years ago. The reconstruction required 3 surgeries, but my ortho surgeon was considered the best. There were 3 procedures done, don't recall much else. Many broken bones in the foot as well.

rhGH worked wonders for the tendonitis, but I still can't jog or ski for more than 10mins at a shot. Ibuprofen worked best for me; I won't touch the COX-2's for obvious reasons.

I've had great luck with cycling the hGH one month on, two off, and it's pretty cost-effective in that manner. I've had no problems when off-cycle.
 
Forgive me if this has been answered before but, any age reccomendations for IGF-1 Supplementation? I know AAS/PH should be avoided until at least age 21, but what about this? Any insight is appreciated. IGF seems very promising.
 
haven't seen this addressed, but it would make sense to me for guys who are still growing to avoid IGF-1, too.

I'd be inclined to stay away from GH & related products until I was 25 - mostly because I grew an inch between 19 & 25.
 
brogers said:
Forgive me if this has been answered before but, any age reccomendations for IGF-1 Supplementation? I know AAS/PH should be avoided until at least age 21, but what about this? Any insight is appreciated. IGF seems very promising.
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Well how old are you? With a question like this its doubtful your 24
 
lozgod said:
I don't start until 3-1, I will let you now fo sho bro.
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Cool, thanks.
IBE said:
For obvious reasons, we can not advise on the use of our supplement related to any aas use, but in relation to IGF-1 supplementation in general, this would be safe to assume. There is increased IGF-1 production when using certain types aas. Cycling IGF-1 either during PCT or immediately following could be beneficial to maintain gains as well as continue to increase gains by keeping/restoring IGF-1 levels that were present during a cycle.
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Awesome, thanks for the help!
 
Sounds very promising. Anyone consider getting there igf-1 levels checked before starting and again when taking the oratropin to quantify the increase? Just a thought.
 
Yeah I am not 24. I just recently turned 21, I edited my profile accordingly. I saw somewhere some dude got banned because he was under 21 for talking about anabolics.

The question still remains, would this or any IGF product be harmful to someone who could still be developing? If you have the same number of muscle cells after puberty for the rest of your life, then would that be the determining factor if you are a candidate? Any research to indicate suggested age restrictions? I don't plan on using myself as a guinea pig, but hyperplasmia (sp) is one helluva a great effect. Just trying to research and get as many opinions as I can. It seems like a great compound.
 
3rd dose today at 11amCST. Slight hypo which can not be attributed to the GXR as I've not taken any today. My diet has been static and I've been taking the OT two hours after breakfast.
 
brogers said:
Yeah I am not 24. I just recently turned 21, I edited my profile accordingly. I saw somewhere some dude got banned because he was under 21 for talking about anabolics.
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I dont know i would be hesitant unless youve been xrayed and your bones have fused together. You dont want to get on it while your still growing you might end up as tall as Yao Ming.
 
Noticed an increase in fullness/hardness in all major groups. Pumps in biceps when doing tasks around the house and my forearm vascularity is increasing. The more I read re: cell-mediation the less I was believing, but my body is telling me it's legit. I am psyched about continuing this cycle. No change in diet.
 
IBE said:
I am on my 4th day and I can not stand the hypo I am feeling, I am tired all day!
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IBE, Do you have any specific diet modifications you could reccomend to deal with that? I find that I become hypo pretty easily with certain supplements and it sounds like this stuff would knock me out.
 
It may sound a little off depending on exactly waht your goals are, but there are a couple of products that help me in intense hypo moments. 1) Honey its cheap and easily findable. I am not scientific with the amount; I often go directly from spout-to-mouth until I feel balanced. repeat if necessary. 2) Carboom or powergel type carb products helped my head and cognitive skills during a m1t cycle. I have considered being a fuked guinea pig and using carboom and m1t as a cycle. Say for the mature audience who may be able to recover from the m1t but don't have any 4 ad.
Good Luck!!
 
Is it adhesive to the sublingual mouth-area or is the cell-mediated effect another?
To me there are only few possibilitys known:An injection posing a depot with its release or transdermal with a penetrating-time depending on the penetrators used and sublingual,where something penetrates through the mucosa of the mouth.
Now does cell-mediated mean adhesive or going from the cells under the mucosa membrane slowly
into the body or is it something completely different?
 
Fastflight said:
Is it adhesive to the sublingual mouth-area or is the cell-mediated effect another?
To me there are only few possibilitys known:An injection posing a depot with its release or transdermal with a penetrating-time depending on the penetrators used and sublingual,where something penetrates through the mucosa of the mouth.
Now does cell-mediated mean adhesive or going from the cells under the mucosa membrane slowly
into the body or is it something completely different?
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I'm sure IBE can answer it better, but cell mediated reffers to it's action rather than how it's absorbed. The method of delivery is relatively new in the pharmaceutical industry. Go to their website and check out the write up on it if you havn't already.
 
riskarb, how's it going? Hypo getting better, worse, holding steady?

(and while we're at it: are you talking hypoglycemia, hypothyroid, or what?)
 
BodyWizard said:
riskarb, how's it going? Hypo getting better, worse, holding steady?

(and while we're at it: are you talking hypoglycemia, hypothyroid, or what?)
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Hypoglycemia no doubt. The "I" in IGF1 stands for insulin. ;)
 
true that - just clarifying, I've been warring on hypoglycemia since I was a kid (and I'm wading thru the Triac / T3 stuff @ the moment - so thyroid stuff is on my mind today).
 
BodyWizard said:
riskarb, how's it going? Hypo getting better, worse, holding steady?

(and while we're at it: are you talking hypoglycemia, hypothyroid, or what?)
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It's going well; and as someone has stated, we're referring to hypoglycemic-states. Still going hypo, but it's manageable.
 
Lean One said:
It's Lean One. Not Someone. :rolleyes: :D
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Mea culpa :box: I was too lazy to hit the back button and check who it was... damn "quick reply" drops the cache if you do that. =)
 
harleyc said:
hey guys,
Can some one tell me what GXR is?? And what you would use it for?? Thank you, Harleyc I really love this post by the way. I hope to hear good things about this product. Riskarb any one???
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GXR is Glucophase XR, go to the Designer Supplements forum, tons of info in there.
 
Designer Supps said:
GXR is Glucophase XR, go to the Designer Supplements forum, tons of info in there.
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You WHORE :lol: [j/k]

I'd imagine I've bought more LX and GXR than any other end-user. Two products I won't do without. =)
 
Designer Supps said:
GXR is Glucophase XR, go to the Designer Supplements forum, tons of info in there.
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Hey Sledge, YGM...sorry I've been having a hell of a time with my attachments! I've been trying to attach files for the better part of 2hrs b/c both of my e-mail servers are f'ed up. New account, so all is good now.
 
Thank you guys,
I was hoping someone would write that info. This stuff sounds pretty good. I will check it out. Thanks, Harleyc
 
TheGame46 said:
You need 3 refrences from their site to register to view the link
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It is a private board. You can use me as a reference. The only other members from there I know are on here is BlownSC and Strateg0s.
 
Wwell I don´t see a reason why Iit should be more effective or safer than injectable,other than more might gets lost during oral delivery and no overdosing occurs.

In the ad there´s a kind of a cellmediated "magnetic" effect.If the cell gets senitive there will be Oraltropin for it,but I don´t see how.
Then again rhe effect shall be a constant pulse of IGF through this special delivery,which again is no difference than from an injected depot.
I believe it will get into your blood,but I don´t think there is any difference to any other form of IGF no matter how it´s admistred,at the same dose.
I can´t see how a sublingual delivery should provide a more constant dru delivery.
Most components are poorly delivered through the mucosa.
A steady.state delivery form would be a transdermal for certain drugs,and I dont think thids would be a good idea on peptides.
Maybe IBE could clear this points ,because one never knows, if it really does work.
 
Its not made to take place of inj. just for people that dont want to. But we'll find out if it works after all these different logs.
 
actually, there's only one log so far (here - there's supposed to be another on a closed private board elsewhere).

what we have are a lot of questions and NO answers...and no explanation for the lack of answers.
 
I'm on day 5 right now, and I'm sleeping like no days business, got a wicked full body pump right now. I'm definitely hungrier than usual, even right after a fairly large meal I'm thinking about a snack.
 
I´m willing to belive that there maybe cell-mediated actions,but I really don´t know what it exactly means and what u mean wwhith equilibrium.
As I don´t have any money to spend for anything right now I´m having the chance to wait a bit.;-)

It´s good to know to have another source of Long R3 IGF-1,despite of its deliveryform,which can be altered to your needs,if one would like to,anyway.

It seems to work for most here,so if you need a willing athlete to test it for free-hit me! :-))
 
I used the injectable version during a bulking cycle. Right now I'm cutting. What I'm doing right now is a tad bit controversial but so far I am ecstatic. Visibly my bodyfat % is down but I am 100% certain when I weigh myself Thursday morning my weight will have increased from last week.;)
 
mmorpheuss said:
I used the injectable version during a bulking cycle. Right now I'm cutting. What I'm doing right now is a tad bit controversial but so far I am ecstatic. Visibly my bodyfat % is down but I am 100% certain when I weigh myself Thursday morning my weight will have increased from last week.;)
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Mmorphius, start a new log. Seriously. It's too much confusion to follow 2 or 3 difrent logs on the same thread.
 
IBE said:
we might do something like that because we need more people's feed back.
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I would be more than willing to fulfill that role for you. I am doing a cycle in about a month, so I could do it w/PCT, or I could put the cycle on hold if necessary, and try it solo if you want that info too.:poke:
 
IBE said:
we might do something like that because we need more people's feed back.
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sign me up!!! i was planning on running a cycle in a few weeks, but i really want to try oratropin, but i cant afford it yet. heh
 
Also IBE:

Just so you know, I would like to use your product over 2 months time to show what it can do as part of an andorgen stack and as PCT thearpy. I have never used IGF before but understand pretty well the mechanisms it works through. If were interested I would be happy to buy one, you * donate one and I'll keep feedback and anwser questions.

I am not the most gifted writer but I am dedicated. And I know for a fact you wouldn't be here except for the fact Bobo believes in you, which is good enough for me. Let me know if I can purchase one and you donate one towards your good name. Thank you.
Motiv8er

Please feel free to ask around, I do like to contribute to this board. I am keeping a log right now on my powder experiments with SD/ m 1,4 diol.
 
I've dropped a pound over the last week; I am half way through my first kit. Had a bit of an allergic reaction this morning,rash on my abdomen and chest that lasted about 30mins, gone now.

Less hypo with each dose, noticed nothing today beyond the allergic reaction.
 
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