lilzekester
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Drop your wierd obsession with me--it's unbecoming. However, I digress.
Orals: single dosing vs. spreadout
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Drop your wierd obsession with me--it's unbecoming. However, I digress.
MonsterTruckr
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Sub'd for the final verdict... next thing ya know I'm gunna have to break out a mirror and a razor blade to divide up my 10mg SD caps.
jbryand101b
Banned
Just stick a cap in your bung hole for sustained release and maximum absorption.MonsterTruckr said:
B5150
Legend
I have no obsession. "Unbecoming?" "Get off my d1ck" and your BS private message kind of gets my attention...not in a good way.
So, in line with the topic of discussion within this thread, answer the question.
fightclub2012
Active member
good question David.
jbryand101b
Banned
No one can answer that question dunn, is like asking how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?
The world may never know.
The world may never know.
EasyEJL
Never enough
i'd say before, at least 30-60 min before. Solely because in that way you are guaranteed having the compound in your system for whatever androgenic effects it has.
Figure either you are shut down with minimal natural testosterone so the compound is your only androgen or you are running testosterone alongside and then still the two would be additive.
Figure either you are shut down with minimal natural testosterone so the compound is your only androgen or you are running testosterone alongside and then still the two would be additive.
B5150
Legend
Just for discussion sake:
When does the "anabolism" of a workout actually take place? Post workout, during recovery(?).
When does the "anabolism" of anabolics actually take place? We know they increase nutrient/protein synthesis. Again...post workout, during recovery(?).
Some have suggested that dosing it after your workout would be the most "anabolic/anabolism" window as that is when the process of recovery is and where and when nutrient/protein synthesis would be most beneficial.
Some have suggested that dosing it before your workout would be the most "advantageous" window as it can increase aggression (androgenic) and in turn increase perfromance. It does not necessarily negate the nutrient/protein synthesis but imagine it is diminished depending upon the half-life and how soon and much you can eat after workouts.
I have my opinion or preference but thought I would toss this out there.
When does the "anabolism" of a workout actually take place? Post workout, during recovery(?).
When does the "anabolism" of anabolics actually take place? We know they increase nutrient/protein synthesis. Again...post workout, during recovery(?).
Some have suggested that dosing it after your workout would be the most "anabolic/anabolism" window as that is when the process of recovery is and where and when nutrient/protein synthesis would be most beneficial.
Some have suggested that dosing it before your workout would be the most "advantageous" window as it can increase aggression (androgenic) and in turn increase perfromance. It does not necessarily negate the nutrient/protein synthesis but imagine it is diminished depending upon the half-life and how soon and much you can eat after workouts.
I have my opinion or preference but thought I would toss this out there.
fightclub2012
Active member
EasyEJL said:
so basically if your doin SD at 20mgs(or whatever your dosing) you would take it all at once 30-60min before your session, and on off days split it..
EasyEJL
Never enough
if you are running a test base or on TRT i wouldn't bother splitting it off days either.
fightclub2012
Active member
@David, post workout ,ok. but how bout off days? spilt dose or all at once.
EasyEJL
Never enough
Kind of obviously, the anabolism of a workout has to start sometime after the workout
its a little iffy from what I recall reading but the primary natural anabolism is highest over the following 8 hours roughly but continues out still measurably to 24 or so.So the question i'd raise from this is whether you want to take advantage of the natural anabolism more by dosing a bit later than workout? Or would you think that taking a compound less than an hour before workout still has it at near peak by end of workout so you really heavily maximize that next 6-8. I'd think that the most valuable period for anabolism starts around 1 hour after workout ends and goes strong for a few hours after that.
B5150
Legend
I don't have "answers" but my preference would be throughout the day simply because I am a fan of steady state levels.
fightclub2012
Active member
David Dunn said:
yeaah I'm a fan of steady state levels too.
Exian
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Anything taken orally could take roughly 30mins to an hour before it is absorbed. Just something to keep in mind. Personally I take one dose in the AM and the next dose either after my workout, or 12h after my first dose if its am off day. Keep in mind no matter what it is your body can only absorbs a certain amount of any compound at once. Which is a reason I like to spread out my dosages, reducing the risk of expulsion without absorption., instead of taking them all at once. I like the idea of steady therapeutic levels rather then taking the daily dose all at once. Just food for thought.
EasyEJL
Never enough
sure but without knowing what that amount is, saying that is meaningless. it could be 2 grams for dbol, or 400mg for superdrol. platitudes don't really go anywhere towards scientific proofs.
Exian
New member
That's right, but again, without knowing for sure, it may be better to err on the side of caution. also it's good to know how much your body can absorb, vs the drugs half life. Neither of which i know for sure. any oral drugs tend to have a longer half life then it's IV or IM counterpart. Also orals aren't absorbed untill 30mins-1hr after intake and oral absorption is a slow process.
Distilled Water
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If you're on an injectable all at once, taking the dose half of its half life before your workout (so peak levels are around your workout)
Example 8 hr half life, take 2-4 hours pre-workout. Injectable a keep exo test high for its array of benifits while the surge of hormone X will come into play for best possible workouts.
Example 8 hr half life, take 2-4 hours pre-workout. Injectable a keep exo test high for its array of benifits while the surge of hormone X will come into play for best possible workouts.