Operation "Get Swole" my 1st inj no BS log all are welcome

hman85 said:
whats your height and weight now and before you first did hormonals ? Thats insane to gain 45 pounds in what 2 years?
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I added 80lb in 11 months by eating every 2 hours (for 11 months solid) and employing a lot of power lifting techniques.

Ive been recmping now since Jan 1st and I'm up 55bs in 16 months and at better bf.

Inspirations

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/58778-kabukis-video-log.html
was born with a defect and is now a powerlifter

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/35-older/35414-gym-pics-61-a.html
hes now 65

All of Thundergods logs

If your not subbed to the above links i highly suggest you check them out.. Well it fired me up and made me realize a) not to old for this b) anything is possible if you try and work hard enough c) Agressive (but responsible) use of AAS can give you the upper hand :)

Pictures of the journey 175 to 255 and back to 230 are all in the very 1st post of this log

And im not done yet, I have some pretty lofty goals that im not prepared to share at this point

Well thats my story and im sticking to it

PEACE

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hman85 said:
whats your height and weight now and before you first did hormonals ? Thats insane to gain 45 pounds in what 2 years?
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Listen, no offense, but I don't really want to get into specific details about my own personal progress over the past year here. Again, this is Ed's log to discuss his progress, not mine.

I'll say this much, first, been using hormonals well more than 2 years, so that'd be tough to gauge...matter of fact, I ran the first andro PH when McGwire was on that sh!t, what? 10-11 years ago? That was following a sust cycle.

And it hasn't been 40lb or whatever of pure gains over the past two years, because I've frequently incorporated cutting phases. For ex. leading into this cycle I actually dropped weight while on a cycle of IGF-1 (the hyperplasia from which I also attribute to probably a good part of the explosive gains I experienced to start). In the last 6 mos I've dropped 8%bf, from where I was at 18% to 10% to start this cycle. So muscle weight goes up, bf goes down. Wash, rinse, repeat.
 
edwitt said:
I added 80lb in 11 months by eating every 2 hours (for 11 months solid) and employing a lot of power lifting techniques.

Ive been recmping now since Jan 1st and I'm up 55bs in 16 months and at better bf.

Inspirations

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/58778-kabukis-video-log.html
was born with a defect and is now a powerlifter

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/35-older/35414-gym-pics-61-a.html
hes now 65

All of Thundergods logs

If your not subbed to the above links i highly suggest you check them out.. Well it fired me up and made me realize a) not to old for this b) anything is possible if you try and work hard enough c) Agressive (but responsible) use of AAS can give you the upper hand :)

Pictures of the journey 175 to 255 and back to 230 are all in the very 1st post of this log

And im not done yet, I have some pretty lofty goals that im not prepared to share at this point

Well thats my story and im sticking to it

PEACE
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ThisGuy2 said:
Listen, no offense, but I don't really want to get into specific details about my own personal progress over the past year here. Again, this is Ed's log to discuss his progress, not mine.

I'll say this much, first, been using hormonals well more than 2 years, so that'd be tough to gauge...matter of fact, I ran the first andro PH when McGwire was on that sh!t, what? 10-11 years ago? That was following a sust cycle.

And it hasn't been 40lb or whatever of pure gains over the past two years, because I've frequently incorporated cutting phases. For ex. leading into this cycle I actually dropped weight while on a cycle of IGF-1 (the hyperplasia from which I also attribute to probably a good part of the explosive gains I experienced to start). In the last 6 mos I've dropped 8%bf, from where I was at 18% to 10% to start this cycle. So muscle weight goes up, bf goes down. Wash, rinse, repeat.
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touchy huh? Just playing man no harm meant keep it to yourself. I thought this last cycle of td was your first
 
A NEW DAWN

Day 38

Proviron 50mg ED
Test E 500mg EW


Weight 224.8 -0.2
Waist
BP

Day 8
1.6cc Helios split 5 hours apart
Core temp raised 0.6f yest
Ive been getting some good night sweats with these Helios (tren like)

Yesterday had good back session no bis and 60 min run at 130 HR


Bis/tris
Good strong WO today feeling great confidence is back.

My left shoulder is feeling a lot better 90%. Just checked my weight 230.2. Official weigh in is AM but looks like all the weight is back after 4 days of stopping the Winny

I had trouble with my joints last year, after adding Animal Flex they seemed to right themselves. For this reason ive stayed away from winny and used VAR.

So this is all very annoying, hopefully no long term harm done.

Tom/today is chest and im gonna get the powerlifting bands out (i have full set). This will allow me to lift heavy but alleviate the stress on the joints at the bottom of the lift

Goodnight
 
A NEW DAWN

Day 39

Proviron 50mg ED
Test E 500mg EW


Weight 228 +3.0lb
Waist 33 3/4 -3.65"
BP

Day
1.6cc Helios split 5 hours apart
Want to stay at 1.6 or i wont have enough for another 2 weeks

Ok shoulder is feeling even better this morning, all the water weight is back on. Will wait until i get to the gym and to my warm up to confirm this.

Scheduled for chest/shoulders

Thing are looking good but will play by ear dont wish to aggrevate it. Out with the powerlifting bands this morning
 
edwitt said:
Well glad you chaps settled that :)
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Yeah.....play nice in here. LOL

Both hman and ThisGuy2 are my homies. 2 really great dudes who can take a good ribbing.


I'm trying to reclaim my lost sense of humor lately.:lol:
 
Ok so had a great lift, shoulder a little bit sore so i canned shoulders and enjoyed chest. Hit new PR deep into my WO, felt strong as a bull

Flatbench 315 x 9 PR

No attempts at 1RM's until this shoulder is sorted out
 
edwitt said:
A NEW DAWN

Day 39

Proviron 50mg ED
Test E 500mg EW


Weight 228 +3.0lb
Waist 33 3/4 -3.65"
BP

Day
1.6cc Helios split 5 hours apart
Want to stay at 1.6 or i wont have enough for another 2 weeks

Ok shoulder is feeling even better this morning, all the water weight is back on. Will wait until i get to the gym and to my warm up to confirm this.

Scheduled for chest/shoulders

Thing are looking good but will play by ear dont wish to aggrevate it. Out with the powerlifting bands this morning
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The thing that keeps blowing my mind is the drop in your waistline. Mine's moving nicely, but nothing even close to that. I WISH I could lean out the middle at the clip your going, bro.

Keep rocking!

As to those night sweats, you know, they're not my favorite. I sweat like a whore in church every night of just about any hormonal cycle. Sucks to have to change the sheets so frequently from the sweat stink.
 
ThisGuy2 said:
The thing that keeps blowing my mind is the drop in your waistline. Mine's moving nicely, but nothing even close to that. I WISH I could lean out the middle at the clip your going, bro.

Keep rocking!

As to those night sweats, you know, they're not my favorite. I sweat like a whore in church every night of just about any hormonal cycle. Sucks to have to change the sheets so frequently from the sweat stink.
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Well I definitely have to thank Kleen for keeping me on track with my diet and although I can bulk with Tren I find it a great for recomp qnd now I'm running 2 seeks of Helios. That rocks too

But above all the ist prob the consistancy of the diet

Afer this week run with Helios I'm gonna take my waist and try and just hold it steady + - 1/2 inch let the test go to work and attain some LBM

So far so good
 
A NEW DAWN

Day 40

Proviron 50mg ED
Test E 500mg EW


Weight 227.8 + 2.8lb
Waist 33.75 -3.65
BP

Day 10
1.6cc Helios split 5 hours apart
Want to stay at 1.6 or i wont have enough for another 2 weeks

Gave my body/shoulder good soak in a hot bath yesterday and i had trouble rising myself out of the tub. On that note im gonna rest up for a couple of days

Also i went to a wedding yesterday, it was held at The River Cafe and the food was sublime. Needless to say i ate a lot of everything, cake as well :( the tape measure was kid to me this morning :)

First major cheat since Jan 1st so im not gonna beat myself up but def good cardio session in order and some abs :)
 
A NEW DAWN

Day 41

Proviron 50mg ED
Test E 500mg EW

250mg right delt

Weight 227.8 +2.8lb
Waist 33 3/4 -3.65"
BP

Day
1.6cc Helios split 5 hours apart

Legs
New routine today thanks Tim, ill post this new WO up in here later.its brutal

I was bit lazy yesyterday no cardio so gotta try today, alsao my parents will be arriving today from the UK, they are gonna be pleasntly suprised as my waist is down from 42" to 33 1/2"

Shouler much better on days rest, see how that feels tomorow
 
edwitt said:
A NEW DAWN

Day 41

Proviron 50mg ED
Test E 500mg EW

250mg right delt

Weight 227.8 +2.8lb
Waist 33 3/4 -3.65"
BP

Day
1.6cc Helios split 5 hours apart

Legs
New routine today thanks Tim, ill post this new WO up in here later.its brutal

I was bit lazy yesyterday no cardio so gotta try today, alsao my parents will be arriving today from the UK, they are gonna be pleasntly suprised as my waist is down from 42" to 33 1/2"

Shouler much better on days rest, see how that feels tomorow
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what u going to tell them. ur on the grapefuit diet . its makes u hoooooooooooooooge:liar:
 
Todays brutal onslaught on legs

Legs from IFBB Pro Lee Priest

start leg exstensions......2 sets light weight about 30 reps to warm up......then do 3 sets heavy for 20 reps......then 2 sets as many as you can by yourself the nhave someone help you up with last 5 reps and hold at top for 1 sec squeeze.......then 2 more sets to failure when cant do no more have someone help you up to top hold it and have them push against you....not hard just enough to feel it going down ..but you fight against them all the way as they push down you try and kick it back up.......

Now squats......1 set 20 reps....add weight do 20 again.....and 3rd add weight do 20 again.......keep adding weight till you can only get like 12 reps..try for 20 but if you cant and you get to 12...then put back...half the weight or go to light weight pump out 50...you can rest or stand there and squeeze legs but do not rack it.....get 50...even if you do 2 reps at a time.......

now go to leg press 3 sets...do one warm up to get them use to machine.....then put on a good weight for your self like 4-5 plates a side.....and just go....nice good reps...hold at top squeeze thighs....go till they burn like hell have soemone remove plate and you keep going down to one plate......till they almost kill you...now they will hurt but trust me once you get to that certain pain..it will not get worse it just stays there...so do what i do block it out....just focus on pushing the weight like a machine ..up and down ..up and down.....just listen to the sled sliding up and down and focus on that...block everything else out...just you and machine become one.....the mind will quit before your legs....so ignore your body telling you it hurts etc....just keep pushing trust me you can do it........

There you go try that one this time......

now do walking lunges 4 sets or just normal lunges in smith or rack....walking better...try like 10-15 each leg.
 
wontstop985 said:
You keep saying "a new dawn;" you mean this literally, not figuratively, right?
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good question

i added that after coming off the orals as at which point i would normally be in PCT

Every day to my surprise im not crashing but gaining in confidence and strength so i mean it both "literally" and "figuratively"

:sgrin:
 
edwitt said:
Every day im gaining in confidence and strength :sgrin:
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Isn't injectable Testosterone a truly wonderful "supplement"?:lol:
 
that leg routine looks broooootul. I would be laying on the floor with back pumps for days, almost looking forward to orals being over, Taurine is BS!!!
 
edwitt said:
Todays brutal onslaught on legs

Legs from IFBB Pro Lee Priest

start leg exstensions......2 sets light weight about 30 reps to warm up......then do 3 sets heavy for 20 reps......then 2 sets as many as you can by yourself the nhave someone help you up with last 5 reps and hold at top for 1 sec squeeze.......then 2 more sets to failure when cant do no more have someone help you up to top hold it and have them push against you....not hard just enough to feel it going down ..but you fight against them all the way as they push down you try and kick it back up.......

Now squats......1 set 20 reps....add weight do 20 again.....and 3rd add weight do 20 again.......keep adding weight till you can only get like 12 reps..try for 20 but if you cant and you get to 12...then put back...half the weight or go to light weight pump out 50...you can rest or stand there and squeeze legs but do not rack it.....get 50...even if you do 2 reps at a time.......

now go to leg press 3 sets...do one warm up to get them use to machine.....then put on a good weight for your self like 4-5 plates a side.....and just go....nice good reps...hold at top squeeze thighs....go till they burn like hell have soemone remove plate and you keep going down to one plate......till they almost kill you...now they will hurt but trust me once you get to that certain pain..it will not get worse it just stays there...so do what i do block it out....just focus on pushing the weight like a machine ..up and down ..up and down.....just listen to the sled sliding up and down and focus on that...block everything else out...just you and machine become one.....the mind will quit before your legs....so ignore your body telling you it hurts etc....just keep pushing trust me you can do it........

There you go try that one this time......

now do walking lunges 4 sets or just normal lunges in smith or rack....walking better...try like 10-15 each leg.
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Looks like a good workout or legs, but I would question doing leg extensions to total failure before doing your squats. Why take away from the mainstay of legs/total body strength? Also remember the pro's wont publish thier true workouts. I got this straight from a pro. I would switch the squats to the beginning and add all the rest after.
 
CaponeCEO said:
Looks like a good workout or legs, but I would question doing leg extensions to total failure before doing your squats. Why take away from the mainstay of legs/total body strength? Also remember the pro's wont publish thier true workouts. I got this straight from a pro. I would switch the squats to the beginning and add all the rest after.
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to late.....

That 50 squats was just nasty.... I thought mt heart was gonna burst out of my chest

Made it to the end, lunges, just one set then i crawled to a bench for 10 minutes just to muster the strength to get to the locker room

brutal was an understatement


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ok i take back what I said about Taurine and back pumps. I upped the dosage to 3 grams PWO and ate a banana and I was FINE doing back today.
 
nyoung807 said:
ok i take back what I said about Taurine and back pumps. I upped the dosage to 3 grams PWO and ate a banana and I was FINE doing back today.
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cool... Guess im lucky my Taurine has never been used, i just eat 4 bananas a day and knock on wood i have never had backpumps or any form of cramps associated with AAS

:)
 
A NEW DAWN

Day 42

Proviron 50mg ED
Test E 500mg EW


Weight 227.2 +2.2lb
Waist 33 3/4 -3.65"
BP

Day 12
2.00cc Helios AM
Also added 100mcg oral clen yest :)

Must get cardio in today

Back/bis or Rest/cardio

Shoulder is not debilitating me, yet it is there and not going away. I should take another day of rest

Otherwise everything is great as i enter my 6th week. Mood. strength. libido etc all off the charts just this damn left shoulder.

Will make doctors appointment for 8 week mark for blood check, at which point i have a pretty good pitch for precription HCG, AI, HGH and B12 shots. Think i have a good shot to get these :)
 
Where is this "doctor" you speak of? :)

B12 shots hmmmmm i'm gonna read up on those.

I didn't know doc would prescribe HGH? interesting.
 
edwitt said:
A NEW DAWN

Day 42

Proviron 50mg ED
Test E 500mg EW


Weight 227.2 +2.2lb
Waist 33 3/4 -3.65"
BP

Day 12
2.00cc Helios AM
Also added 100mcg oral clen yest :)

Must get cardio in today

Back/bis or Rest/cardio

Shoulder is not debilitating me, yet it is there and not going away. I should take another day of rest

Otherwise everything is great as i enter my 6th week. Mood. strength. libido etc all off the charts just this damn left shoulder.

Will make doctors appointment for 8 week mark for blood check, at which point i have a pretty good pitch for precription HCG, AI, HGH and B12 shots. Think i have a good shot to get these :)
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Damn...running Helios with oral clen? You are a stim junkie for sure.

I am on the fence about buying some Icyplex based on the feedback I have been reading about it.
 
Silver3CSRT8 said:
Damn...running Helios with oral clen? You are a stim junkie for sure.

I am on the fence about buying some Icyplex based on the feedback I have been reading about it.
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I used it in the past and loved it. IMO, it works better than oral clen, and you dont get the sides either.
 
Silver3CSRT8 said:
Damn...running Helios with oral clen? You are a stim junkie for sure.

I am on the fence about buying some Icyplex based on the feedback I have been reading about it.
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what are our concerns? i think the stuff is great, im a stim junkie and cudnt get my HR anywhere near what it is on this stuff with 250mcg of oral clen

Its the exact same formula as Helios

if ur super sensitive to stims just start low dose 25mg, guess it also depends on how you react to the Yo

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edwitt said:
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what are our concerns? i think the stuff is great, im a stim junkie and cudnt get my HR anywhere near what it is on this stuff with 250mcg of oral clen

Its the exact same formula as Helios

if ur super sensitive to stims just start low dose 25mg, guess it also depends on how you react to the Yo
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i heard mixed reviews about Icyplex as well, i believe the source actually replaced a lot. i dont know what was actually wrong with the product though
 
nosnmiveins said:
i heard mixed reviews about Icyplex as well, i believe the source actually replaced a lot. i dont know what was actually wrong with the product though
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Alot of people use it incorrectly. You need to take it and do cardio 30-60 mins after. It is supposed to liquify the fat so it can be easily burned off. If you leave it too long it is supposed to go back to its original state. That's what i got out of it at least.
 
hman85 said:
Alot of people use it incorrectly. You need to take it and do cardio 30-60 mins after. It is supposed to liquify the fat so it can be easily burned off. If you leave it too long it is supposed to go back to its original state. That's what i got out of it at least.
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I def can feel it after 60 mins but it definitely builds up in my system and is far more potent 8 hours later and even beyond that. like i said it gives me tren like night sweats

I do however inj first thing in the morn and would typically be training within 60-90 minutes but this is just coincidental

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edwitt said:
I def can feel it after 60 mins but it definitely builds up in my system and is far more potent 8 hours later and even beyond that. like i said it gives me tren like night sweats

I do however inj first thing in the morn and would typically be training within 60-90 minutes but this is just coincidental
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The one I am talking about is icyplex and it is cumulative but They say that is when the best fat loss is. Helios and icyplex are the same thing right?
 
hman85 said:
The one I am talking about is icyplex and it is cumulative but They say that is when the best fat loss is. Helios and icyplex are the same thing right?
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yes its identical.. Its actually the brand... OOps

Im subbed to the thread you are talking about i think...

Seems more theory to me, there seems to be a lot of different opiions on when where etc

Some also claim spot reduction

All i can tell you for sure is that its some potent **** and i know my stims...

i was taking 250mcg oral clen and 100mg Ephedrine and imtelling you this is more effective in elevating my HR and core temperature

As to spot reduction or some of the other claims i think that is rather debatable but who knows nothing to loose in that regard right, so when i load 1cc up i hit 2 differnt sites for 50 ius

:sgrin:

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Day 43

Proviron 50mg ED
Test E 500mg EW


Weight 225.8 +0.8lb
Waist 33.4 -4.0" :)
BP

Day 13
2.00cc Helios AM
Also added 150mcg oral clen yest :)

Opted for another day rest yest but got 53min run in at 130HR

Shoulder doesnt seem to be getting better, Super Cissus arrives today

Will hit back today and will choose a routine that will not aggrevate my shoulderr. No shrugs prob a lot of Deads

Rather than do bis with back today i will do bis and tris tom so as to buy my shoulder an extra days rest before chest

Otherwise i feel fantastic actually better than ever that "feeling of well being" definitely present and super "Alpha" confidence

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edwitt said:
Shoulder doesnt seem to be getting better, Super Cissus arrives today

Will hit back today and will choose a routine that will not aggrevate my shoulderr. No shrugs prob a lot of Deads
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Describe how the shoulder feels. Where does the pain originate from?

Be sure to do plenty of rotator cuff exercises before hitting the weights and make sure you stretch between sets. :thumbsup:
 
thundergod said:
Describe how the shoulder feels. Where does the pain originate from?

Be sure to do plenty of rotator cuff exercises before hitting the weights and make sure you stretch between sets. :thumbsup:
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Regular every day motion it doesnt hurt but if ilft myself up like from a seated position there is a sharp pain at the top of the Delt but deep inside not muscular. So dips and military presses would definitely aggravate it.

When i bench press the discomfort is not to bad at all but it will agrrevate it enough so that the pain is much more prominent. After a few days rest the pain has mostly subsided but still noticeable if any weight out on it.

I have Super cissus coming today hopefully ive upped my fish oil intake and ive been using Animal Flex for some time due to previous dicomfort with great sucesss.

Ive considered adding NPP and have access to it but will hold off on that idea for now

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Be very careful if you add NPP, since you are running tren (at least I think you're running tren, or were at one point). The two together can cause prolactin levels to skyrocket. Some caber could combat this.

Might be better off looking into IGF for the shoulder issues. Could also be an issue of everything being so tight in your upper body that its pulling it forward. Do you stretch and get massages regularly?
 
unc21 said:
Be very careful if you add NPP, since you are running tren (at least I think you're running tren, or were at one point). The two together can cause prolactin levels to skyrocket. Some caber could combat this.

Might be better off looking into IGF for the shoulder issues. Could also be an issue of everything being so tight in your upper body that its pulling it forward. Do you stretch and get massages regularly?
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no tren, i finished 12 days ago

i do stretch and i will be stretching a lot more, massage no

long r3 igf-1? if so i have some :) ive been doing some research on this but im a ways off from using it at this stage

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Well if no tren anymore, NPP would be a good addition to help.

Stretching will definitely help from having things get to tight and pull things out of wack and cause some grinding in the rotator. Massage will help with myo-fascial release of small knots of toxins that build up, and cause muscles to essentially shorten, which can also cause problems. Ive had shoulder issues for years, and for me, its a combo of pretty much everything (stretching, massage, supps, etc)
 
hman85 said:
Deep tissue massages are ballin!
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Fer shoor!! I have the goddess give me deep tissue massages. Being the sado-masochist that I am.....it feels wundebar!!! :twisted:

She will use her knuckles and elbows to get deep into the fibers. It hurts......but it's incredibly effective. :fing02:
 
edwitt said:
no tren, i finished 12 days ago

i do stretch and i will be stretching a lot more, massage no

long r3 igf-1? if so i have some :) ive been doing some research on this but im a ways off from using it at this stage
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whoa, whoa, whoa. you have it on hand and are debating? wait no longer, my brother. igf-1 lr3 is the straight up sh!t! I actually ran it solo and it was great. you will NEVER rest that well in your life, it aids recovery, yes, it will help heal that shoulder, and it'll no only contribute (though mildly) to gains on cycle, but it'll help ensure you keep them after. I attribute a run I did (40mcg divided bilaterally EOD) leading into this one now to the explosive growth I had at the onset...all those nice new fibers resulting fro hyperplasia. My delts and chest, which was where I focused the igf, have def developed more than they would've otherwise, even w/ the aid of the current prop/mast/var.

BTW, I think I'm having a similar reaction to the mast as you did to winny, except I'm not actually dropping weight. but I am staying the same. meanwhile, musculature is clearly increasing, much more fullness to them, much more definition too, but my bodyweight will NOT budge from the 220-222 range. I'm def packing on muscle though, I can see that in the mirror. and though I haven't done a bf test in a few weeks, I can tell it's dropping significantly. My stomach is the flattest it's been in years. I'm planning on testing it before starting week 5. no doubt I'm single digies now.

Can't wait to see what happens when I add those win tabs the last few weeks...:sgrin:
 
ThisGuy2 said:
whoa, whoa, whoa. you have it on hand and are debating? wait no longer, my brother. igf-1 lr3 is the straight up sh!t! I actually ran it solo and it was great. you will NEVER rest that well in your life, it aids recovery, yes, it will help heal that shoulder, and it'll no only contribute (though mildly) to gains on cycle, but it'll help ensure you keep them after. I attribute a run I did (40mcg divided bilaterally EOD) leading into this one now to the explosive growth I had at the onset...all those nice new fibers resulting fro hyperplasia. My delts and chest, which was where I focused the igf, have def developed more than they would've otherwise, even w/ the aid of the current prop/mast/var.

BTW, I think I'm having a similar reaction to the mast as you did to winny, except I'm not actually dropping weight. but I am staying the same. meanwhile, musculature is clearly increasing, much more fullness to them, much more definition too, but my bodyweight will NOT budge from the 220-222 range. I'm def packing on muscle though, I can see that in the mirror. and though I haven't done a bf test in a few weeks, I can tell it's dropping significantly. My stomach is the flattest it's been in years. I'm planning on testing it before starting week 5. no doubt I'm single digies now.

Can't wait to see what happens when I add those win tabs the last few weeks...:sgrin:
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Im gonna hold on the igf as i had plans for that later into the cycle :)

Lets just see what some cissus and a lot more stretching can do

to be honest teh pain is not terrible but just worried about it getting worse and it is currently inhibiting certains lifts like dips and military press

Lets wait 2 weeks but i sure do have some good **** in my arsenal NPP and igf :)

The War Chest is brimming over with weapons of mass destruction

Il be gunning for a HGH prescription from my favorite doctor next visit :)

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edwitt said:
Im gonna hold on the igf as i had plans for that later into the cycle :)

Lets just see what some cissus and a lot more stretching can do

to be honest teh pain is not terrible but just worried about it getting worse and it is currently inhibiting certains lifts like dips and military press

Lets wait 2 weeks but i sure do have some good **** in my arsenal NPP and igf :)

The War Chest is brimming over with weapons of mass destruction

Il be gunning for a HGH prescription from my favorite doctor next visit :)

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I want to be your Dr.'s patient.
 
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