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Olympus Labs EP1C UNLEASHED! Next Generation Epicatechin!

blowme said:
I dont see any changes in body comp in before and afters, does this stuff really make that much of a difference in performance?
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Did you look at the first page? You must be cray cray if you don't see change in myself and no added hormones. Those are impressive results for a 5-6 week run.. I would even say ph comparable(even though I've never taken any).. No one is going to go from tiny to huge in a really short time frame and/or high bf% to low. Just saying bud. Check my 2 bottle log I'm starting when this comes in for more.
 
NoAddedHmones said:
Lol are you blind?
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i think the problem that he is having, and i know this was the case for me as well, and probably others too.

is that the before and after poses are not the same pose. Some of the pictures the ops are not flexed
in the befores, but then in the afters they are flexed. Or its a completely different pose in the afters.

The only op where the changes are very noticeable is Corbin, because his before and after photos
are the same poses and the photos are side by side so you can see the changes.

Maybe next time, suggest to the ops running logs or beta testing supps to try to do the same pose
in the before and after photos so its easier for the average person to compare the changes. :)
 
vujade said:
i think the problem that he is having, and i know this was the case for me as well, and probably others too.

is that the before and after poses are not the same pose. Some of the pictures the ops are not flexed
in the befores, but then in the afters they are flexed. Or its a completely different pose in the afters.

The only op where the changes are very noticeable is Corbin, because his before and after photos
are the same poses and the photos are side by side so you can see the changes.

Maybe next time, suggest to the ops running logs or beta testing supps to try to do the same pose
in the before and after photos so its easier for the average person to compare the changes. :)
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I think that is very hard to mimic Vujade with all due respect.

I'm not here to start a pissing match but noadded did a great job as did all other testers. To say that someone's pose is the reason for the NOTICEABLE difference, I feel, is just ignorant.
 
here's another point, to show a visible difference on camera the changes need to be really considerable and to show changes in this short of time says something.
 
DreamWeaver said:
here's another point, to show a visible difference on camera the changes need to be really considerable and to show changes in this short of time says something.
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Thank you for your welcomed reaffirmation of my point Doug! I tolerate most things but not ignorance
 
CJ_Xfit89 said:
I think that is very hard to mimic Vujade with all due respect.

I'm not here to start a pissing match but noadded did a great job as did all other testers.
To say that someone's pose is the reason for the NOTICEABLE difference, I feel, is just ignorant.
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Dont misquote my CJ..

I didn't say the pose is the reason for the NOTICEABLE difference.

I said that the pose caused the op to not see ANY differences.

I also said in the photos were Corbin was doing the same pose, the differences were more NOTICEABLE :)

Dont misread what i am saying here. Im not bashing OL or your products. I currently use a few of them at
any given time.

Im just saying that because the poses are not the same as each other in the before and after photos for
3 of the ops, you cannot easily see the differences as you can on the photos were the op did the same pose..! :)
 
The biggest thing for me is that I know and trust some of these guys. They used the products cuz they work. I see changes but the trust you build with people is even more important. This is why I have been at AM so long.
 
Also keep in mind these are not professional photo shoots. It is inevitable that lighting, distance, angle, exact pose, etc will not be completely replicated.
I think the loggers are all trustworthy and we (log followers) usually take people at their word that they gained X lbs and lost X bf%.
 
First I'd like to say I've tan many OL products and enjoy them all and trust fully in there products. As well as I ordered a bottle of this just cause I know it's gonna sell out and I plan on running it later in my PCT and I know it's gonna work.

As for the pics I don't think vujade is ignorant or misguided. And he actually brings up a good suggestion. I myself CAN see the changes but I could see how SOME other people might not or might have trouble because of the poses. Especially from a non flexed before to a flexed after. Corbin's changes are the most noticeable because his poses are similar so it pops out more. And I think future beta testing should take that into consideration.
Again though there are changes in all testers that can be noticed you just have to look a little more cause of the poses.

I'm sure I'll probably still be disregarded even though I support OL an there products but don't see the point in calling someone ignorant when they make valid points IMO an if you have an open mind rather than jump straight into defense mode.

Either way I got some lol and can't wait to run it myself. Keep up the great work OL.
 
DreamWeaver said:
The biggest thing for me is that I know and trust some of these guys.
They used the products cuz they work. I see changes but the trust you build with people is even more important.
This is why I have been at AM so long.
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Im not mistrusting anyone DW. Im also on AM because i trust if more then most sites and had been a lurker for years
before joining and finally made the time to join because I do feel its the best Forum out there. :)

i was just pointing on that i could see why the original OP couldnt see the changes. The OP was accused of being blind.
Some people are just not as observant as others and need to have them shown to them in a way that they can easily
see without needing someone to tell them what they are looking at.
 
vujade said:
Im not mistrusting anyone DW. Im also on AM because i trust if more then most sites and had been a lurker for years
before joining and finally made the time to join because I do feel its the best Forum out there. :)

i was just pointing on that i could see why the original OP couldnt see the changes. The OP was accused of being blind.
Some people are just not as observant as others and need to have them shown to them in a way that they can easily
see without needing someone to tell them what they are looking at.
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Yah what I said had nothing to do with you, I was just sayin... nothing to do with the other guy who said he didn't see changes really either.

Reading your post I think you were misunderstood about what you were saying, it happens. I see no problem here :)

Hey another point is, is that the original Epic was good and if this is better then it's a great product and thank God we have companies trying to improve products despite the fact that the product already works for them.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Yah what I said had nothing to do with you, I was just sayin... nothing to do with the other guy who said he didn't see changes really either.

Reading your post I think you were misunderstood about what you were saying, it happens. I see no problem here :)

Hey another point is, is that the original Epic was good and if this is better then it's a great product and thank God we have companies trying to improve products despite the fact that the product already works for them.
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I agree with you completely bro. If it wasn't for AM & the internet a lot of us would still be buying whatever GNC pushed on us for all those years.
Now at least, we have access to reputable companies that make great products with tons of innovation.

OL is one of my top 5 companies that i trust and support with my hard earned dollars :)
 
The changes I saw in my 6 week run may not be detectable at all in a camera. It was little things. Vascularity and a couple little cuts that only I know what I'm looking at. My before and afters probably look pretty similar to most (they are not on here), but I saw them in the mirror. Felt like my arms gained some density as well.
 
I know I can't hit a damn pose without cramping to save my life ??? but otherwise it makes a good point but since it's up for people on there own time and free will to take a selfie they will always do it the way that makes them look the best. I know I would and that's just the aim.

I know I can't wait to run the TD and Oral soon! It's a product that I honestly believe works and can take individuals to new heights ?
 
chedapalooza said:
So what about those who did order it last night then? Will we be refunded the difference? I'll even take a NP credit.
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Yes, just shoot Customer service an email saying you hopped on the insider before the discounted price has gone live and they will have it taken care of.

Anyone planning on logging?
 
Price as been updated folks,$42.99! Anyone who has purchased before this will be receiving a refund of the difference back to there cards.
 
Hey guys, sorry for the mix up on pricing. We fixed the sale price and everyone who already purchased will be refunded for the difference. Refunds will also be proactively issued so no need to do anything on your end...we're here to make it easy! ;)

Also, the EP1C Unleashed oral is in stock and orders will be shipping out first thing Monday morning. The dermal should be arriving Tuesday and those orders will ship then. :beerchug:
 
vujade said:
i think the problem that he is having, and i know this was the case for me as well, and probably others too.

is that the before and after poses are not the same pose. Some of the pictures the ops are not flexed
in the befores, but then in the afters they are flexed. Or its a completely different pose in the afters.

The only op where the changes are very noticeable is Corbin, because his before and after photos
are the same poses and the photos are side by side so you can see the changes.

Maybe next time, suggest to the ops running logs or beta testing supps to try to do the same pose
in the before and after photos so its easier for the average person to compare the changes. :)
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Well said. I use pictures in my logs, but I honestly don't place a large amount of confidence in them. Lighting, flexing, etc. play a huge role.
 
stryder said:
Hey guys, sorry for the mix up on pricing. We fixed the sale price and everyone who already purchased will be refunded for the difference. Refunds will also be proactively issued so no need to do anything on your end...we're here to make it easy! ;)

Also, the EP1C Unleashed oral is in stock and orders will be shipping out first thing Monday morning. The dermal should be arriving Tuesday and those orders will ship then. :beerchug:
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Beautiful
 
I had to go onto the NutraPlanet page to verify this for myself ....$42.99, Are you kidding me?!?!?!?

To put this in perspective, Unleashed costs more to produce than OG EP1C. We are keeping the regular price of unleashed the same as the original as a goodwill gesture. But, I'm not sure you will see the price for unleashed this low for a while if ever again.
 
3 bottles of TD and some back up tudca en route....im pretty stoked to run this through pct and beyond to really solitify gains.
 
No worries then :) I wasn't really all that concerned but it's nice to know, good job guys :)
 
ordered two bottles myself. can this be taken at the same time with my morning prohormone dosing?
 
Hopefully this time I don't discover broken capsules in my bottle. Happened to me on the last two bottles of OG Ep1c. I might cry this time around
 
doogans said:
Hopefully this time I don't discover broken capsules in my bottle. Happened to me on the last two bottles of OG Ep1c. I might cry this time around
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Should have PMed one of the reps they have great customer service and I'm sure they would have corrected the issue
 
if I take this year round but at one cap a day will results still be seen and beneficial?
 
jgntyce said:
if I take this year round but at one cap a day will results still be seen and beneficial?
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Pretty sure 1 cap a day wouldnt be as beneficial; I actually had my own bloodwork done and it seemed to keep certain levels below average and even improved my lipid profile. No true negatives to associate with the Ingredients at all. I may get a copy sooner or later but i have used similar products for 4 months and planning on a full 6 month run with starting value bloodwork. Cant say everyone would do this and peoples records sometimes are best kept personal but I personally would see this as a great staple to run for extended periods but year round meaning 365? I dont advise any supplement be ran in that fashion. To each their own though as these are definitly more my honest thoughts and experience
 
8 weeks effective? 12 weeks better? **** it, in for 16. Never tried an (-)-epi product/ergogenic/myogenic beyond the basics before, kinda stoked.

(This should be used in a caloric surplus and combined with high frequency training, eh?)
 
kdubson14
Loggers used it for recomp, cutting, and bulking purposes. For example corbin gained 7 lbs and lost fat. The alpha testers only used the phytofused ingredient , the inclusion of EGCG will only enhance the results.
 
Just an update for those who bought in at the reg price, all credits have gone back to your cards. Credits may take up to 3-5 business days depending on your bank.

Enjoy...your goods will be shipping to you soon!!!
 
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