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"Older" 4 ad powder

T-Bone

T-Bone

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I have a crapload left from the 04 ban. Now I already have some of in a carrier. I would need to slap on 20 pumps twice a day for 600mg a day. Also I still have a lot left...I just want to use it up though since it is so old. I have no doubt it will still work because I have it stored correctley in a cool dark, dry place. Not vacuum sealed but, still stored correctly. The only thing that may have happened is it lost potency. I am not really worried about that though. I want to use it all up in one cycle. I'd say I have about 52 grams of it still in powder. Just want to use it up and looking for suggestions on dosing. I'm thinking to use it all up in say 8 weeks I would need to dose at 2 grams, including the 600 transdermal. As it is I will have to slather on so much just for the 600mg a day....I really don't like all the water gain on this stuff and don't want to stop cutting to use it. You could say though its "burning a hole in my cabinet" so to speak.....

suggestions....?

I'd like to stack it with an oral that is unmethylated and will reduced the water weight gain significantly.
 
I fit upwards of 19 grams of powder in Penetrate back in the day..7 of 4AD, 7 of 19 Nor and 5 of 1-Test. At 2-3 squirts, 2x per day it was almost too much although I have no idea exactly how much active that converts to.

I'd say you could easily fit 10 grams of 4AD in some Penetrate, get a pretty reasonable dose delivered (chem gurus will guide you here) and run it with something like ATD, ADED, 6-OXO or 6-Bromo to keep the water at bay a little.
 
bioman said:
I fit upwards of 19 grams of powder in Penetrate back in the day..7 of 4AD, 7 of 19 Nor and 5 of 1-Test. At 2-3 squirts, 2x per day it was almost too much although I have no idea exactly how much active that converts to.

I'd say you could easily fit 10 grams of 4AD in some Penetrate, get a pretty reasonable dose delivered (chem gurus will guide you here) and run it with something like ATD, ADED, 6-OXO or 6-Bromo to keep the water at bay a little.
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The thing is I already have six bottles of Finaderm all filled up, according to manufacturer each bottle can only hold 6 grams. 6 grams dissolved in one bottle = 25 mg per pump. So actually it is 12 pumps twice a day for 600 mg. So the bottles I have already made will last 8 weeks at that dosage. I just have to figure out about using the rest powder in a different carrier that cost less in addition to the finaderm bottles that I already mixed. I could get another 6 bottles of finaderm but is very expensive. I like it though, I like the lotion consistancy and it smells good. Also I have used it before so I actually know what I am doing with it. I know I have more than enough to double the dose to 1200mg a day. My problem is I just want to use it all up, so whether its a consistant dose or not doesn't really matter.
 
The Penetrate carrier should hold 12 grams per 8 ounces easily...with another 6 or 7 pushing it. It would depend how you went about dissolving the actives in.

1-Test/4-AD is amazing.
 
dsade said:
The Penetrate carrier should hold 12 grams per 8 ounces easily...with another 6 or 7 pushing it. It would depend how you went about dissolving the actives in.

1-Test/4-AD is amazing.
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I wouldn't know how begin with that. With the Finaderm I just add 1 tablespoon of isopropl..rubing alchol! to the powder shake it really good, then add the finaderm to that bottle shake it up really good, pour back in the other bottle and shake again, repeat and it dissolves completely with no problem. Yes I 1T/4AD is the best, but I don't want to add another trans because as it to use up this powder I gonna have to practically bath in the stuff.
 
T-Bone said:
I wouldn't know how begin with that. With the Finaderm I just add 1 tablespoon of isopropl..rubing alchol! to the powder shake it really good, then add the finaderm to that bottle shake it up really good, pour back in the other bottle and shake again, repeat and it dissolves completely with no problem. Yes I 1T/4AD is the best, but I don't want to add another trans because as it to use up this powder I gonna have to practically bath in the stuff.
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Use either 1:1 ratio of 1-test to 4-ad, or 1:2...add the powder and shake.

Start with 12 grams...and no, the dosage is not ridiculous at all.
 
dsade said:
Use either 1:1 ratio of 1-test to 4-ad, or 1:2...add the powder and shake.

Start with 12 grams...and no, the dosage is not ridiculous at all.
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So to do an 8 week cycle, how many grams each of 1-test + 4ad would I buy? this way I dont have to do the math myslef :D
 
EasyEJL said:
So to do an 8 week cycle, how many grams each of 1-test + 4ad would I buy? this way I dont have to do the math myslef :D
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You my friend.. are a lazy bum. ;) :lol:

T-bone, do you have the option of getting a hold of other pre-ban ph's?? Stacking options aren't totally limited, but there's much better selection, if you have access that is..
 
is this 4add the same as 4ad? I have some 1ad by ergopharm left from before the ban...


WOuld the 4add be a comprable stack as the 1ad/4ad trrans stack from before?
 
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