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ax1 said:
Its not a conspiracy theory, they bough enough supplies to last 7 years against us.

This was reported on market watch but they took the link down.
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Cool, so now they're prepping for a civilian war? Time to practice my krav maga.
 
specmike said:
It's not so much that they bought it. It's what they intend to do with it.
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Dont forget, the NDAA act allows the military to take actions against us. For the first time its law stating that our homeland is a part of the battlefield.
 
southpaw23 said:
Lol. :/ You guys have fun. Be safe out there...they're coming.
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You dont get it do you. Do you know they are setting up 30,000 drones in our airspace by 2020? What do you think they are for?
 
ax1 said:
You dont get it do you. Do you know they are setting up 30,000 drones in our airspace by 2020? What do you think they are for?
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Oh gosh your a fear monger conspiracy theorist sheeple, how can you make stuff like that up you moron?

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ax1 said:
I knew Id get through to you, lol
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ax you have to admit....you are a tinfoil hat wearer. The fact your brought the HW Bush speech into said a lot imo.

Also, in reference to congressional approval, you do know the president has the power to declare war (with certain military branches) for 90 days right?
 
AE14 said:
ax you have to admit....you are a tinfoil hat wearer. The fact your brought the HW Bush speech into said a lot imo.

Also, in reference to congressional approval, you do know the president has the power to declare war (with certain military branches) for 90 days right?
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Its history...I didnt say it, and Ill bring it up again. They dont use the term NWO any more after that recent financial collapse after world leaders work referring to it. Its now called either "globalism" "global governance" or "the global infrastructure." Its all relevant to this day. Some of Obama's speeches to this day are very similar to GW's NWO speech.

Obama clearly is looking to NATO for war approvals, and the military acknowledges that. It is rather disturbing to me. With the aftermath of the Libya disaster we can see there is no good in it.

I can see in a national emergency an executive making a prompt decision to protect our homeland, but Libya had nothing to do with safety or so called "humanitarianism."
 
ax1 said:
Its history...I didnt say it, and Ill bring it up again. They dont use the term NWO any more after that recent financial collapse after world leaders work referring to it. Its now called either "globalism" "global governance" or "the global infrastructure." Its all relevant to this day. Some of Obama's speeches to this day are very similar to GW's NWO speech.

Obama clearly is looking to NATO for war approvals, and the military acknowledges that. It is rather disturbing to me. With the aftermath of the Libya disaster we can see there is no good in it.

I can see in a national emergency an executive making a prompt decision to protect our homeland, but Libya had nothing to do with safety or so called "humanitarianism."
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the fact that you think that speech had a hidden agenda is downright laughable. Please feel free to keep referring to it, it honestly makes me laugh. Do you really think that the powers that be would drop continual hints like that in a speech?

Too funny
 
AE14 said:
the fact that you think that speech had a hidden agenda is downright laughable. Please feel free to keep referring to it, it honestly makes me laugh. Do you really think that the powers that be would drop continual hints like that in a speech?

Too funny
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And what do you think he was talking about? The UN's role of peace keeping vision he is referring to? Is that what we got from our so called UN "peacekeepers"?
 
ax1 said:
And what do you think he was talking about? The UN's role of peace keeping vision he is referring to? Is that what we got from our so called UN "peacekeepers"?
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Understanding who HW was and is, I think he and his speech writers were having alittle fun with the conspiracy crew.
 
AE14 said:
Understanding who HW was and is, I think he and his speech writers were having alittle fun with the conspiracy crew.
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Oh, lol at least we have some material to play with :)
 
AE14 said:
I forgot though....they cant have a sense of humor....they are reptillian shapeshifters ;)
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Sure they can, its a tough job but when people suffer you have to laugh it off....nothing like an old fashioned Bush dinner party where he can make silly remarks about his lies that cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of people.
 
ax1 said:
Sure they can, its a tough job but when people suffer you have to laugh it off....nothing like an old fashioned Bush dinner party where he can make silly remarks about his lies that cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of people.
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Source for this? Which Bush?
 
Obama has a secret decoder ring, with a hidden message that I have uncovered, thanks to the treasure trove of news reporting otherwise known as youtube. It's a rough translation but I think it means....kneel before Zod.
 
AE14 said:
Source for this? Which Bush?
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I was talking about Jr.

I dunno source, Ive seen it on mainstream TV many times. He was making remarks not long ago about the "weapons of mass destruction" that they never found.
 
southpaw23 said:
There's likely a youtube video. The butler hiding behind the ficus plant.
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I would never post a youtube video. You convinced me that even if I post something that was shown on CSpan, CNN, or any other video that shows the people in charge talking that it doesnt count.
 
ax1 said:
I would never post a youtube video. You convinced me that even if I post something that was shown on CSpan, CNN, or any other video that shows the people in charge talking that it doesnt count.
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I feel like we should hug it out? You in?
 
kingk0ng said:
I still can't believe there are Obama supporters. These people either voting just because they are bored, or clearly have been in some sort of coma over the last 4 years. I'm proud to say I'm voting for Mitt Romney in 2012.



If he can lie like Obama does, then he shouldn't have a problem.

QFT:

"Dear fellow Americans, if you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you weren't a racist, please vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot".


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Does it not even give you a little pause that your response to anything negative about Romney in this thread has been "yeah, but Obama..."? The Washington Post article about him was "some liberal crap" and yeah, what has Obama done. I completely get it, Obama's been ineffective no one is currently questioning that. Many of us are saying what exactly makes you think Romney will be better based on his big government past and his flip flops...but your response is "yeah, Obama sucks!"

Pretty much sums up why our two party system is destined to fail so badly. A vote for the lesser of two evils is still going to be evil.
 
I just love how conservatives presume to think those of us who voted for Obama did so to prove we weren't racist, which is one of the silliest and quite frankly idiotic statements to come out of their mouths, among many others. But let's take a look at the flip side of that equation, and ask how many presidents prior to Obama were black? NONE. So by that logic, it's fair to conclude that minorities who voted in elections prior to Obama, all voted to prove they weren't racist towards whites, since you know...ALL PRESIDENTS PRIOR TO OBAMA WERE WHITE. Just saying.
 
southpaw23 said:
I just love how conservatives presume to think those of us who voted for Obama did so to prove we weren't racist, which is one of the silliest and quite frankly idiotic statements to come out of their mouths, among many others. But let's take the flip side of that equation, and ask how many presidents prior to Obama were black? NONE. So by that logic, it's fair to conclude that minorities who voted in elections prior to Obama, all voted to prove they weren't racist towards whites, since you know...ALL PRESIDENTS PRIOR TO OBAMA WERE WHITE. Just saying.
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who said this?

I've never heard a conservative say this.

all I hear is how it's racism NOT to vote for him.
and how racist the tea party is.
 
carpee said:
who said this?

I've never heard a conservative say this.

all I hear is how it's racism NOT to vote for him.
and how racist the tea party is.
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He was about to dig a youtube video, but remembered that everything posted there was made by some sheeple in a basement. lol

j/p southpaw.
 
carpee said:
who said this?

I've never heard a conservative say this.

all I hear is how it's racism NOT to vote for him.
and how racist the tea party is.
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I don't know, stuff like this doesn't seem to help dispel that notion. Invalid Link Removed
And in case someone wants to dismiss the link as a "liberal" source, I can also provide audio of the comments made, in addition to pictures at that rally, among many others. My point is, this stuff permeates itself among tea party groups and to deny it is silly, since it's all too easy to prove.
 
southpaw23 said:
Every group has it's token tools...
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it doesn't matter what you think of them, they are overwhelmingly supported by the tea party and you suggested the tea part is racist.
 
carpee said:
it doesn't matter what you think of them, they are overwhelmingly supported by the tea party and you suggested the tea part is racist.
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And I just supplied you with evidence clearly showing that there are "racist" elements within the party. While your argument was, "well there are two minorities who support the movement, so they can't be racist." I can supply with you pictures and audio as well, that lend support to my contention that those sort of elements have permeated themselves within that party.
 
southpaw23 said:
And I just supplied you with evidence clearly showing that their are "racist" elements within the party. While your argument was, "well there are two minorities who support the movement, so they can't be racist." I can supply with you pictures and audio as well, that lend support to my contention that those sort of elements have permeated themselves within that party.
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and I could supply plenty of evidence to show that liberals have elements of racism in their movement.

there would be racist "elements" in everything in these politically correct days.

the point is, as a whole the tea party is not racist and saying so is an alinsky tactic to avoid any sort of real debates on issues that matter.

I'm not a tea partier. I believe in fiscal conservatism. but this was a country founded to be a place where you can be who you want to be, and have the opportunity to practice whatever religion and live the life you want to. we have a nanny state govt telling us what we can and can't do and what is or is not good for us...and that's not American
 
southpaw23 said:
And I just supplied you with evidence clearly showing that their are "racist" elements within the party. While your argument was, "well there are two minorities who support the movement, so they can't be racist." I can supply with you pictures and audio as well, that lend support to my contention that those sort of elements have permeated themselves within that party.
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There are racist tea party, racist republicans, racist democrats, racist conservatives, racist liberals, racist Christians, racist atheists...they can be found anywhere. Its really silly to knock the tea party as a whole based on a few that may have made racist comments within the group. Doing so is racism.
 
carpee said:
and I could supply plenty of evidence to show that liberals have elements of racism in their movement.

there would be racist "elements" in everything in these politically correct days.

the point is, as a whole the tea party is not racist and saying so is an alinsky tactic to avoid any sort of real debates on issues that matter.
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there are racist elements in probably all parties. Additionally, by doing the "so are the libs" you are proving the point that was raised earlier by Geo.

People complain about other parties, yet seem to forget that the 2 party system is really a choice between 1 and 1a.
 
AE14 said:
there are racist elements in probably all parties. Additionally, by doing the "so are the libs" you are proving the point that was raised earlier by Geo.

People complain about other parties, yet seem to forget that the 2 party system is really a choice between 1 and 1a.
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I am not disagreeing at all here AE.

like I said, I'm not a tea partier, just a fiscal conservative.
 
ax1 said:
There are racist tea party, racist republicans, racist democrats, racist conservatives, racist liberals, racist Christians, racist atheists...they can be found anywhere. Its really silly to knock the tea party as a whole based on a few that may have made racist comments within the group. Doing so is racism.
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I'm not pulling any of this out of thin air. I've actually attended some of these rallies, they resemble something out of middle earth. Collectively, if you were to examine the racial makeup of opposing parties, I doubt any of them would come close to what the Tea Party has allowed some of it's brethren to get away with, by way of signs, speeches, pictures, videos etc. I'm sure you can find a handful of videos showing racist elements among opposing parties, but I have serious doubts that they'd compare to what is found among tea party supporters.
 
southpaw23 said:
I'm not pulling any of this out of thin air. I've actually attended some of these rallies, they resemble something out of middle earth. Collectively, if you were to examine the racial makeup of opposing parties, I doubt any of them would come close to what the Tea Party has allowed some of it's brethren to get away with, by way of signs, speeches, pictures, videos etc. I'm sure you can find a handful of videos showing racist elements among opposing parties, but I have serious doubts that they'd compare to what is found among tea party supporters.
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have you ever seen occupy wallstreet?

black panthers?

democratic socialists of America?
 
southpaw23 said:
I'm not pulling any of this out of thin air. I've actually attended some of these rallies, they resemble something out of middle earth. Collectively, if you were to examine the racial makeup of opposing parties, I doubt any of them would come close to what the Tea Party has allowed some of it's brethren to get away with, by way of signs, speeches, pictures, videos etc. I'm sure you can find a handful of videos showing racist elements among opposing parties, but I have serious doubts that they'd compare to what is found among tea party supporters.
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What specifically is standing out to you that are so racist?

You do know...The Tea Party has its own cults and groups within the party. If you go to a meeting in one state it may be different than another state. The media which is run by the Republicrats will do anything to demonize their competition as a whole.

This is one of the reasons Im for abolishing all political parties in this country and just having individual platforms.
 
ax1 said:
What specifically is standing out to you that are so racist?

You do know...The Tea Party has its own cults and groups within the party. If you go to a meeting in one state it may be different than another state. The media which is run by the Republicrats will do anything to demonize their competition as a whole.

This is one of the reasons Im for abolishing all political parties in this country and just having individual platforms.
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exactly why the founding fathers warned against political parties
 
Here is another reason not to got for Obama. Today the dictator in chief announces he is going to stop deporting illegal aliens and going to grant work permits since Congress wouldn't pass the Dream Act. Apparently he is feeling the discontent of the country, and needs to backfill his voter rolls from all of the illegal and dead folks on Florida's roster. So he once again oversteps his constitutional authority by deliberately going against the Constitution and grants amnesty to an important group of potential illegal voters. They didn't think it was eight for those 800,000 ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS to live in fear of being deported. They should be scares and should be deported. You break the law, and there are consequences.

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carpee said:
exactly why the founding fathers warned against political parties
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All it does is stir division and blind faith votes. All parties will get infiltrated and corrupted by the banks and corporations, reason why this country has been kidnapped by a group of fascists.

youngandfree said:
Here is another reason not to got for Obama. Today the dictator in chief announces he is going to stop deporting illegal aliens and going to grant work permits since Congress wouldn't pass the Dream Act. Apparently he is feeling the discontent of the country, and needs to backfill his voter rolls from all of the illegal and dead folks on Florida's roster. So he once again oversteps his constitutional authority by deliberately going against the Constitution and grants amnesty to an important group of potential illegal voters. They didn't think it was eight for those 800,000 ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS to live in fear of being deported. They should be scares and should be deported. You break the law, and there are consequences.

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The fences are to keep us in, not keep them out.
 
ax1 said:
The American people through the media, internet and television are sold on the presidential candidates. It has nothing to do with who is most qualified or giving people real choices. People (most) in the end will vote for crap and choose between coke and pepsi.
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Yup. Just ask George Zimmerman about the power of stupid, loud people in large numbers with a little media hype.
 
carpee said:
have you ever seen occupy wallstreet?

black panthers?

democratic socialists of America?
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That doesn't count, because they're not straight, white, male conservatives. ONLY we can be considered racist. ONLY we can commit hate crimes.

Fact.
 
rbrooks said:
That doesn't count, because they're not straight, white, male conservatives. ONLY we can be considered racist. ONLY we can commit hate crimes.

Fact.
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Troof
 
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