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Nootropic update thread. Increasing my brain capacity

TexasLifter89 said:
Update 5
60mg Ginkgo Biloba

ginkgo Biloba
Ginkgo by far is currently my favorite. I am planning to go and try to buy some caps today to cap the choline and piracetam so it is more pleasant to dose.
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Look interesting I am always looking for study aides. So how does GB make you "feel" is it the combination of different things?

What would be an ultimate 4.0 stack lol
 
Im subbing to this thread. Very very interesting!

Ive been wanting to get something together as I will be starting up classes again in Jan- mixed with work is tough. Looks like ginko will be added to my stack. What do people think about Tyrosine? I was thinking about stacking this will ALCAR...
 
Grambo said:
Look interesting I am always looking for study aides. So how does GB make you "feel" is it the combination of different things?

What would be an ultimate 4.0 stack lol
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Ginkgo I seem to build tolerance to at even 1 week straight use (60mg dose. 1 time per day). Thus, I am planning to start 4 days on, 2 days off and see how that works. Initially my reponse go Ginkgo Biloba was great. My mind a very nice clarity (not this stim clarity crap that everyone talks about), but I felt like I had nothing in my head and through process was much smoother! If that makes sense...to you?

My next experiment is to try Gingo Biloba in combination with Focus XT. I still have not gotten around to getting caps for the piracetam and choline yet, they are starting to stink up my bathroom in these bulk containers!

afboy143 said:
Im subbing to this thread. Very very interesting!

Ive been wanting to get something together as I will be starting up classes again in Jan- mixed with work is tough. Looks like ginko will be added to my stack. What do people think about Tyrosine? I was thinking about stacking this will ALCAR...
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Hey! Thanks for joining in, I am trying to give true honest opinions of what I am noting. Yes, I am pleased with ginkgo biloba thus far, but the tolerance is wicked fast! I was definitely not expecting it to be this quick... perhaps bumping up the dose? From what I read the normal dose is 60-200mg so I should perhaps raise my dosing a bit.

As for Tyrosine solo, I have not used that so I can't give it's input. Perhaps after this Choline/piracetam stuff I will give the Tyrosine a try. The times I have used Choline/Piracetam I was not impressed...

Thus far my recomendations of solo products are at Ginkgo Biloba 60mg & 1 scoop Focus XT. My girlfriend also tried the focus XT and loves it now! She took 7 servings from my tub and it has become an adderall alternative to her...without the unpleasant "addiction". I plan to use these two in combination tomorrow to study and I will report back!

luclyluciano said:
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Thanks for joining in! I am glad to see so many peoples input and interest in the subject of nootropics!

thebigt said:
anabolic extreme is a mess, lol. glad you got it taken care of.:cheers:
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Yes, I had no clue of it at the time and had heard it was a great product. It did nothing for me but put a hole in my wallet and give me puffy nipples, thankfully I got it discounted while I worked at Vitamin Shoppe. That was among my first supplements also, one of the only ones I've tried that did absolutely nothing for me.


For those of you interested, Focus XT gets some credit on my girlfriends part for an exam percentage score increase... a 58% to a 93%. She is not giving full credit to Focus XT, but in her opinion it definitely supplied a "supplemental" aspect enough for her to ask me for more.

I personally haven't had that kind of luck yet... but I am one who has to physically study a bit more, so I am expecting me results to be more subtle.
 
I used to pound the Focus XT back in the day. I remember it being pretty good for studying. I never got the big stim everyone used to talk about but def gave you more study wise focus. That speedy arity feeling isn't always the best for studying.

Picked up some ginko. Will give it a try tomorrow prob. Gonna grab se XT on my next order as well.
 
I really know what to look for when using aids but sometimes much more subtle for me than others. Even Adderall I tried back in the day didn't turn me into a super student like it does with others I know..... Not sure if it's my stim tolerance, the fact I can focus and study hard without it pretty easily maybe a bit of both.
 
My experience with Ginko is the supermarket / street brands suck. They are cheap and are placebos. Ordered some from AIM, a multi level company. Very expensive but when I double dosed as I ofter do with supps my gums had a heart beat! Lol! That stuff wurks! Curious, anyone else have a potent brand and brands to avoid????
 
Grambo said:
I really know what to look for when using aids but sometimes much more subtle for me than others. Even Adderall I tried back in the day didn't turn me into a super student like it does with others I know..... Not sure if it's my stim tolerance, the fact I can focus and study hard without it pretty easily maybe a bit of both.
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I don't get a stim effect from focus xt, and yes everything is pretty subtle for me as well. I am the same way as you when it comes to adderall and studying without it.
 
luclyluciano said:
My experience with Ginko is the supermarket / street brands suck. They are cheap and are placebos. Ordered some from AIM, a multi level company. Very expensive but when I double dosed as I ofter do with supps my gums had a heart beat! Lol! That stuff wurks! Curious, anyone else have a potent brand and brands to avoid????
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hey lucky, i haven't checked if now brands has a gingko but they are usually very reliable and cheap.
 
The Gingko at Costco is pretty good. Huge bottle of gel caps for cheap and it has vinpocetine in it as well.
 
I just realized I may have been taking the wrong amount of ginkgo biloba...

I am looking at my label and it says this :
"Servings size 60mg
servings per container:833
1/4 teaspoon: 770mg
Amount per serving: (60mg Ginkgo Biloba)"

I have been using 1/4 teaspoon to dose, so dose this mean I have actually been taking 770mg worth of ginkgo biloba?
 
Update 6
Focus XT: 1/2 scoop
Ginkgo Biloba: 1/4 teaspoon 770mg (60mg ginkgo biloba)

Notes
WOW! I seriously recommend everyone try this stack. My head feels king of light headed/buzzed... but I feel like I have the focus/tunnel vision of a race horse. Absolutely no jitters or anything negative. I was definitely not expecting it to be this potent of a focus enhancement and can't say enough about the combination...

give it a try!
 
Grambo said:
Hmm not sure. If it isn't saying that 1/4 is the serving size you may very well be knocking out 770. Hard to tell without the label.
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I am curious about that.... the that is the label on my bulk bottle and it is really confusing to me... I would think I would be noticing some extreme stuff if i was knocking down 770mg of ginkgo...
 
TexasLifter89 said:
Update 6
Focus XT: 1/2 scoop
Ginkgo Biloba: 1/4 teaspoon 770mg (60mg ginkgo biloba)

Notes
WOW! I seriously recommend everyone try this stack. My head feels king of light headed/buzzed... but I feel like I have the focus/tunnel vision of a race horse. Absolutely no jitters or anything negative. I was definitely not expecting it to be this potent of a focus enhancement and can't say enough about the combination...

give it a try!
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damn, tex you have sold me. weird how an obscure, relatively overlooked supplement has become so popular. ginkgo for the win.:cheers:
 
thebigt said:
damn, tex you have sold me. weird how an obscure, relatively overlooked supplement has become so popular. ginkgo for the win.:cheers:
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I do have to say though the feeling dies off about 15-20 minutes after dosing hardcore...but it is still noticeable there after. Now, for the rest of you 1 scoop would probably work better, I chose 1/2 scoop because I am sensitive to ALCAR and such.

As for piracetam and choline combo... I don't think I will even use them since I have found something I like. The times I tried piracetam I noticed nothing and I have heard it is a very hit or miss product.

Unfortunately I now have alittle under 700grams to get rid of...


EDIT: when I use to work at vitamin shoppe I always eyed the cognitive supplements and ginkgo biloba products, but I believed them to all be BS... I wish I had found it sooner. It works for me subtle, but the combination with focus XT is very please (note this is my 1st time using combination) so I only assume it will get better.
 
live and learn bro. wait till you get my age, if only....lol.:cheers:
 
700mg? Oh my.

The usual dose already feels like a nice kick, I can't imagine going to high...Did you sleep fine afterwards? heh
 
reminds me of first time i bought bulk ycl. label said 1/3 tsp=800mg or something like that. so i figured 1/3 tsp was how much to dose-WRONG. sweats, heart palpatations, turning red thinking i was going to die- then all of a sudden my shiit started getting hard then harder then damn. biggest hardest most intense hardon of my life and i couldn't enjoy it. that really sucked-had to pack my shiit in ice.
 
reminds me of first time i bought bulk ycl. label said 1/3 tsp=800mg or something like that. so i figured 1/3 tsp was how much to dose-WRONG. sweats, heart palpatations, turning red thinking i was going to die- then all of a sudden my shiit started getting hard then harder then damn. biggest hardest most intense hardon of my life and i couldn't enjoy it. that really sucked-had to pack my shiit in ice.
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You can survive 800mg of yohimbine hcl?

You deserve reps
 
PublicEnemy said:
You can survive 800mg of yohimbine hcl?

You deserve reps
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dude, i put a 1/3 tsp in my mouth threw back some water and went to take my before work shower. by the time i was done it had hit. i made it to the bed and soaked it, my wife was ready to call 911. we were both freaking out. then my shiit got hard and swole up like a flag pole. swear to GOD i had to put ice on it for 20 minutes and shiit was still hard. i was in bad shape for a good 3-4 hours. needless to say i didn't go to work. i lost 8 pounds in 1 day, not a fun experience.
 
Grambo said:
Ouch......
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ouch is right. i suggest people be real careful when using bulk powders. stuff like ycl and 1,3 dime are very powerful. i tollerate ycl well, if someone with sensitivity to it would have done that much....and can you imagine the results of someone sensitive to 1,3 dime using a 1/3 tsp dose? clearer warnings and dosing directions need to be put on powerful stuff like this, imo.
 
I still haven't heard back from bulk nutrition and im starting to get worried, i dont want to be taking in 770mg of ginkgo... haha. I've been having crappy sleep the past week now that I think about it... maybe this is the cause of restlessness?
 
TexasLifter89 said:
I still haven't heard back from bulk nutrition and im starting to get worried, i dont want to be taking in 770mg of ginkgo... haha. I've been having crappy sleep the past week now that I think about it... maybe this is the cause of restlessness?
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I took some Ginko last night, just from Wally World. It said 60mg but then 14.4mg extract....so popped four. ~60mg extract and 240mg of GB. Seemed to work nicely like you said.

Had some restless sleep as well though. Combined it with other things too though so not sure.
 
Grambo said:
I took some Ginko last night, just from Wally World. It said 60mg but then 14.4mg extract....so popped four. ~60mg extract and 240mg of GB. Seemed to work nicely like you said.

Had some restless sleep as well though. Combined it with other things too though so not sure.
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so yours is 60 mg, but 14.4mg extract... maybe mine is 770mg but 60 mg extract? Would that make sense?

yeah I have had the restlessness, I just didn't think to contribute it to the ginkgo till I looked up side effects (in case I am WAY overdosing)
 
hey guys I haven't taken anything the past few days because I've been going to some parties and don't have any exams till this coming friday. Today is my birhday so I'll be spending the weekend out with buddies, hence no dosing this weekend at all either. Dosing should pick back up for the ginkgo and focus xt next week.

Also to note, Bulknutrition still has not returned my emails or phone calls, should I be worried? I'm not quite sure what to do about my dosing.
 
TexasLifter89 said:
hey guys I haven't taken anything the past few days because I've been going to some parties and don't have any exams till this coming friday. Today is my birhday so I'll be spending the weekend out with buddies, hence no dosing this weekend at all either. Dosing should pick back up for the ginkgo and focus xt next week.

Also to note, Bulknutrition still has not returned my emails or phone calls, should I be worried? I'm not quite sure what to do about my dosing.
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ask one of the forum members or post a thread. there are still some old timers over there that know what's going on.
 
TexasLifter89 said:
so yours is 60 mg, but 14.4mg extract... maybe mine is 770mg but 60 mg extract? Would that make sense?

yeah I have had the restlessness, I just didn't think to contribute it to the ginkgo till I looked up side effects (in case I am WAY overdosing)
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I suppose it could be but that would be less than 10% extract, which is not great. Plus I dunno if it is the actual extract that does the work or the whole thing.

Definitely something worth knowing. That is a HELL of a lot though if it is 770mg.
 
You should try Vinpocetine. Works great for me.

On a side note, I took some of my dad's Provigil a few weeks ago. I think the Doctors might have cured stupid with that one. It's awesome.
 
hey guys sorry for the lack of updates this week. I have been extremely busy and still have not managed to get a response from bulk nutrition on my ginkgo inquiries. I think I may drop dosing down to 1/8 teaspoon just to be safe.

I will be using it and focus xt again tonight though for studying purposes.

I also would like to mention I will be testing LG's new Ecdysterone product shortly (as soon as it arrives). If you all are interested I will post the link in here.
 
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