idk maybe your response to it sucks, up 8 while getting leaner is good especially in the first 4 weeks before the sust/mast really contribute anything. But if you're not getting insane strength then i guess it doesn't work great for you. SD-1 huh? I'm about to try the stuff I hope it works well for me. If its real SD i'll be able to tell right away. I am going to guess that the previous Mdrol you ran was legit and so is the SD-1 and your response just isn't very strong. But if you're up 8 pounds, then you're 213, and leaner... ur doing good man.