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Next cycle: Epi/dienazone!!

ccp

ccp

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Hey guys, it's been a while since I posted anything, got crazy busy over the holidays. I was planning on running this cycle in November but I decided to try out some Celtic labs stuff. I ran some mestebol and some dianodrol. My post cycle is all wrapped up and I will be ready for another about mid March. So I'm planning on running Epi 2a,3a and Dienazone for my next cycle. I've got LGI Damage control for my support sups and I've got Dopadex, P5P, and Erase on hand. I have a prescription for Nolva so I was hoping to just run that with some test boosters for PCT, but if you guys have had better luck with something else let me know. This will be my third time running epi but the first time with dienazone, so any pointers are appreciated. I am thinking of just a six weeker, but I'm open to new ideas. If you guys think I should throw anything else in or do anything different throw it out! Thanks in advance!
 
Looks decent to me. The TUDCA is a tad low in Damage Control, so you could always grab some extra to run it, but it's not 100% needed.

I've always been a bigger fan of clomid, but if you've used nolva in the past without issue, I'm sure it's fine. Just add some DAA and maybe 3,4 divan or something else to it. As you know, tons of options.

Might want to have caber on hand just in case with the dien, though you're probably fine with what you listed.
 
Looks good

I ran it like so:
Epi 40/40/40/40/40/40
Dienazone 1.5-2ml a day

Great recomp + strength
 
MidwestBeast said:
Looks decent to me. The TUDCA is a tad low in Damage Control, so you could always grab some extra to run it, but it's not 100% needed.

I've always been a bigger fan of clomid, but if you've used nolva in the past without issue, I'm sure it's fine. Just add some DAA and maybe 3,4 divan or something else to it. As you know, tons of options.

Might want to have caber on hand just in case with the dien, though you're probably fine with what you listed.
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Most the other ingreds are a bit low in Damage Control as well
 
I agree the first time I used damage control I ended up adding in some extras. I have a few bottles left and some cycle support as well. I will probably start off with the cycle support and see how things go.
 
ccp said:
That's how I was thinking if run it. How did your cycle go? Any issues or sides to speak of?
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Only ph/ds cycle that I've been able to cut on but still gain strength. Side: puffy nips that went away without effort during pct.

PRs all went up 30-50lbs. Lost about 3%bf.

I did hurt my shoulder due to my tendons not being ready for the huge jumps in weights I was pushing.
 
rphash49 said:
Only ph/ds cycle that I've been able to cut on but still gain strength. Side: puffy nips that went away without effort during pct. PRs all went up 30-50lbs. Lost about 3%bf. I did hurt my shoulder due to my tendons not being ready for the huge jumps in weights I was pushing.
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Sounds like a good run. Did you take any inhibit p or Dopadex during the cycle to combat the puffy?
 
Dienazone is a great option for stacking. It does not increase liver toxicity like other methylated orals. Dienazone keeps muscles nice and full and also adds a great deal of strength.

I think the synergy between the two will be a nice run.
Personally I like Triumphalis over Epi. Partly because Epi makes my joints dry and hurt. Also, Triumph has magnificent nutrient partitioning effects. However either one will stack nicely.

your PCT looks fine.
 
ccp said:
Sounds like a good run. Did you take any inhibit p or Dopadex during the cycle to combat the puffy?
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I used inhibit p but it didn't reduce the puffy but as soon as moved to pct the puffy went away. Next time I'll probably use caber or prami.
 
Has anyone ran another bulking product a long with these two? Maybe something at the beginning then bridged into the epi/dienazone? Just curious? Any thoughts?
 
Well here it is then-

Epi
40/40/40/40/40/40
Dienazone
1.5- 2ml per day 6 weeks

Cycle support
AI cycle support
Damage control

On hand support
Dopadex
P5P
Erase
Might get some prami coming

PCT
NOLVA 20/20/10/10
DAA
Vitrix
Reduce xt

Gonna go for a clean bulk, I've really nailed down my dietary habits lately, and want to put some size on for summer. Let me know what ya think!
 
RH2012 said:
so what did you think of the mestebol and dianodrol?
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I felt really good while I was on. Strength was ok for me but my buddy's strength jumped up a lot. Didn't have any sides really and never felt like I got shut down. I was expecting something a little different but it wasn't a bad run. Have you ran I either of them yet?
 
RH2012 said:
naw, cleaving the oxime off to an active compund seems like a hit or miss to me. may be why ur buddy got different results. more stomach acid or whatnot. dianabol is pretty strong so its obvious that the conversion isn't efficient or they are way under-dosed. your results match up with just about everybody's that i've read. they guys at phf are even saying they are not gonna produce anymore oximes unless its a m1t oxime or something and i doubt that will happen either. think i'm gonna pass on these. i'm cheap, i mean frugal, and expect my money's worth lol.
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I was hoping for something with a little more of a wow factor. I will be sticking to the tried and true from now on.
 
I just noticed that I have a couple bottles of stano left I my stash. Think I might add this in, any thoughts?
 
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