Newcomers...DHEA derivatives DO deliver..

[Cordeen]

..more importantly younger, less experienced, less knowledgeable and those who have not ventured into the prohormone side of bodybuilding/training....and today is your second post outside of your introduction.

If your "HEALTH" is paramount...and yes some may laugh and some may not...but I can bet that there are a handful of "new" members here that wanna fulfill there goals and not worry about the serious sides.....well here's a friendly heads up.... you thought about a DHEA derivative?

With that.....there are a handful of companies that can fulfill that order right now...and give you the gains you are seeking....androfactory being one.

Something to think about.

 

[rphash49]

I was a big fan of PP but omg the stuff was expensive. I'm sure the delivery system is great and all but for that much coin I need more results than what oral dhea can provide. Only product I would buy now if I could from PP is androhard. Hands down best stano clone I've ever used. Only dhea I would use now is dermacrine which is Cheaper and more effective IMO.

 

[jbryand101b]

androfactory is expensive. ams, forerunner labs are better choices.

 

[CATdiesel76]

Definitely a good option for novices getting their feet wet and learning how their body reacts to hormones and how to cycle properly.

However, I don't think they should be singled out just for newcomers. These products can be useful for anyone. I have run several cycles and plan on running some of these in the future. Sometimes its nice to get a boost over what you could do naturally and mix things up without having to resort to a major cycle and harsh shutdown. Obviously people will have to adjust their expectations from their cycle if they just did a test/tren/dbol cycle but it by no means make these products useless to experienced users.

 

[Cordeen]

androfactory is expensive. ams, forerunner labs are better choices.

Atta boy...good post!!

 

[bono1132]

How would the forruner labs alpha mas/bulk compare to like the hdrol/stano I just ran? Kinda high in price but they Will probably be on the nye sale. Planning my post surgery/recovery spring comeback (won't be in the gym for 3 months) was thinking epi but was curious about these products

 

[jbryand101b]

Atta boy...good post!!

if you had posted this in the androfactory sub section, I wouldn't of ever posted in it. :smoker:

 

[jbryand101b]

How would the forruner labs alpha mas/bulk compare to like the hdrol/stano I just ran? Kinda high in price but they Will probably be on the nye sale. Planning my post surgery/recovery spring comeback (won't be in the gym for 3 months) was thinking epi but was curious about these products

those two combos prob wouldn't compare, but adding in 50mg of hdrol with alpha mass and/or alpha bulk would be nice.

 

[Cordeen]

if you had posted this in the androfactory sub section, I wouldn't of ever posted in it. :smoker:

My original post made mention to "handful of companies" not just androfactory and the intent was truly directed at the safer alternatives available for less knowledgeable / experienced.

And I guess you're right, there's no other rep that has posted any reference to their product in this sub-section in a new thread nor even outside their own company sub-section.

I "was" just trying to offer helpful advice.

 

[Cordeen]

How would the forruner labs alpha mas/bulk compare to like the hdrol/stano I just ran? Kinda high in price but they Will probably be on the nye sale. Planning my post surgery/recovery spring comeback (won't be in the gym for 3 months) was thinking epi but was curious about these products

Highly consider adding liver support for the second option unlike the first and maybe a stronger PCT too.

Just my opinion.

 

[bono1132]

Highly consider adding liver support for the second cycle and maybe a stronger PCT.

Just my opinion.

I ran life support during and post cycle, nolva/daa/erase/powerful/c20/versa1/nobull and hemavol/sizeon during pct, what would be different if I ran hdrol or epi with say alpha mass? Any idea what kind of shutdown would occur? I tried going

 

[Cordeen]

I ran life support during and post cycle, nolva/daa/erase/powerful/c20/versa1/nobull and hemavol/sizeon during pct, what would be different if I ran hdrol or epi with say alpha mass? Any idea what kind of shutdown would occur? I tried going

That cycle support and PCT is great. Shutdown will occur but to what extent no one would know without bloodwork.

 

[bono1132]

That cycle support and PCT is great. Shutdown will occur but to what extent no one would know without bloodwork.

I was leaning toward torem for my next pct. I had some shutdown from hdrol stano but bounced back after week1 doin a little TOO good down there now in week 5. Took a ling time before going to the dark (awesome) side went a lil overkill with first cycle but loved it! I'm guessing alpha mass would be fairly wet gains?

 

[CATdiesel76]

those two combos prob wouldn't compare, but adding in 50mg of hdrol with alpha mass and/or alpha bulk would be nice.

I like this idea. I would run an oral such as hdrol for the first couple of weeks on top of 8 weeks
Of max bulk. I always feel like the extra time on cycles helps me retain more of my as after they solidify a bit.

 

[Lukef2000]

I was a big fan of PP but omg the stuff was expensive. I'm sure the delivery system is great and all but for that much coin I need more results than what oral dhea can provide. Only product I would buy now if I could from PP is androhard. Hands down best stano clone I've ever used. Only dhea I would use now is dermacrine which is Cheaper and more effective IMO.

Muscle-up should be out early in the new year, it's an androhard clone and we've been told its going to be cheaper. Food for thought

 

[jbryand101b]

My original post made mention to "handful of companies" not just androfactory and the intent was truly directed at the safer alternatives available for less knowledgeable / experienced.

And I guess you're right, there's no other rep that has posted any reference to their product in this sub-section in a new thread nor even outside their own company sub-section.

I "was" just trying to offer helpful advice.

uh huh. :thumbsup:

 

[Cordeen]

I was leaning toward torem for my next pct. I had some shutdown from hdrol stano but bounced back after week1 doin a little TOO good down there now in week 5. Took a ling time before going to the dark (awesome) side went a lil overkill with first cycle but loved it! I'm guessing alpha mass would be fairly wet gains?

I don't think it will cause must bloat at all....it's 1-Dhea product.

 

[alwaysfirst]

I ran FOCUS from AF and got NOTHING out of it...
I don't trust AndroFactory

 

[jbryand101b]

I don't think it will cause must bloat at all....it's 1-Dhea product.

Oh boy......

 

[fightbackhxc]

androfactory is expensive. ams, forerunner labs are better choices.

Echo this, for the prices you can't beat ams. Plus the dudes are pretty knowledgeable and helpful.

 

[fightbackhxc]

Really enjoy dhea isomers though...gained 22 lbs on andromass. Everyone kept asking me What I was doing Lol...told them I was on dem nitrated beef aminoz.