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New Product - M14-E

I shoulda clarified....I didn't feel much negatively, so I cut the recommended dose of 40,40,20,20 in half to 20,20,10,10 and stretched the bottle out for 2 cycles, and feel I could've of gotten away without it.

And I know there's no exact way of knowing who will have what for sides and gains.

But you should tell me nasty mass will make me huge and I won't need PCT, LOL....

Naw, I wanna try a superdol run, since I've read good and bad, like everything, and hoped I'd have only a good story to tell.

Thanks!!

Oh, and are you gonna start new threads for the other products so we can all ask the stoopid questions or find answers to them already? It'd be easier than me asking all about taking nasty mass or E-pol or whatever else and adding to the 4 pages of the M-14 thread.
 
waynaferd said:
I shoulda clarified....I didn't feel much negatively, so I cut the recommended dose of 40,40,20,20 in half to 20,20,10,10 and stretched the bottle out for 2 cycles, and feel I could've of gotten away without it.

And I know there's no exact way of knowing who will have what for sides and gains.

But you should tell me nasty mass will make me huge and I won't need PCT, LOL....

Naw, I wanna try a superdol run, since I've read good and bad, like everything, and hoped I'd have only a good story to tell.

Thanks!!

Oh, and are you gonna start new threads for the other products so we can all ask the stoopid questions or find answers to them already? It'd be easier than me asking all about taking nasty mass or E-pol or whatever else and adding to the 4 pages of the M-14 thread.
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Oh ok Get are stuff and get HYOOOOGE! NO sides! NO PCT! ......how does that make you feel lol

Nolva actually doesn't get better per say, the high it gets. It has been shown that 20mg is really a good dose and 10 may have be as effective in some cases as 20, so that is one reason you may have not felt you needed when it was really doing it's thing.

Sure I can make Question threads on our products. Good idea..... This thread is popular but not only about M14E.
 
Quick question, buddy of mine is 23 and is starting to take this. After he mentioned it I researched it and told him it probably wasn't a good idea. He said he was just going to cycle for a month and see what happens. Not a good idea right?
 
Ok so doing the whole post a pic of ur stash thread got me thinking plus seeing numerous threads about mega dosing epi. I think what I will do is up the amount of epi I use on this pulse(had planned on only using 1 bottle). Right now I am using 50mg at 30/20. What I might do is use the left over epi as part of my 6 week 2 bottle M14-E cycle.

Now some1 come tell me how retarded this would be since I am usually doing it to other people. The most I would use is 135mg M1,4ADD and POSSIBLY 65mg of epi thinking more along the lines of 55mg. B4 some1 flames me I have run epi a number of times. The idea of running extra epi during M14-E is what triggered me to think I should up my dose during this epi pulse to really see how I do on mega doses. Feedback would be great.
 
Obviously I'm not a pulse fan but that is different thread ha....

Upping the dose on cycle with some extra epi for someone who has used a lot of epi in the past is not a problem at all.
 
Grambo said:
Obviously I'm not a pulse fan but that is different thread ha....

Upping the dose on cycle with some extra epi for someone who has used a lot of epi in the past is not a problem at all.
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Haha I was skeptical but I am def hitting the sweet spot. Libido was super high then dropped off then today was higher than ever. Plus I can feel and see my muscles getting fuller. There is a euphoric feeling too which I don't associate with being on cycle. I have to give prop to Anabolic Xtreme because I am using their Hyperdrol X2 nightly.

Good to hear I can't wait to run M14-E and log it whenever it may be. My whole stash looks so tempting.

1) 2 bottles of 1-T Tren for a recomp
2)superdrol as a pulse or a short straight cycle to see how I like it for future kick starts/bridges
3) pulsing "tren" since I have so much and it doesn't appear to be done before
4) 3 bottles of Halodrol clone for a nice long recomp right before summer
5) 2 bottles of M14-E with some extra epi for added fun

*This is just my anabolic section

The only thing I haven't dream about taking is pplex YET.

I also have some nonhormonal stuff I want to do. But I think I should stuff now :lol:
 
Not a bad stash ;)

Glad the pulse is working out for you. I guess my thoughts is that Pulses are not ideal for steroids and cycles are much better in many ways and roller coastering my hormone levels doesn't excite me...... but some disagree with me so :)
 
Any libido issues with this product? My sex drive is sensitive to a lot of steroids. I read somewhere people have issues with epi. It's probably the anti estrogenic effect of the epi that kills libido...right?
 
benchaffleck said:
Any libido issues with this product? My sex drive is sensitive to a lot of steroids. I read somewhere people have issues with epi. It's probably the anti estrogenic effect of the epi that kills libido...right?
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Correct, since M14E has Epi plus M14add which aromatizes I expect libido to not be an issue at all as libido issues tend to be caused by lowering estrogen too much with these PH/DS products.
 
Are there any logs of M14e yet? I keep searching, but not turning anything up. I saw you gave some cycles out, but haven't found those logs yet. Any links?
 
Milas said:
Are there any logs of M14e yet? I keep searching, but not turning anything up. I saw you gave some cycles out, but haven't found those logs yet. Any links?
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Found 1 log on AM, but I thought there were others?
 
Milas said:
Are there any logs of M14e yet? I keep searching, but not turning anything up. I saw you gave some cycles out, but haven't found those logs yet. Any links?
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I gave/sold two bottles to a friend IRL.

True story: he has put on 12 lbs through the first bottle (a lot of water weight but still awesome). He looks 20lbs thicker right now and if I didn't know better, I would think he was on the real stuff. He has said that he feels like he has a full-body pump all day long and that he is already seeing strength gains.

With the good, there is the bad.....he has had a VERY difficult time with back pumps and is just now getting them under control with taurine and potassium. Also some minor acne breakouts, but nothing major.
 
Question about Arimidex. I have some and was wondering if it is considered a serm ?? will it be as usefull as nolvadex for pct ? I know its more effective at stopping the test to est conversion.
 
Thanks for the response. Ill hold off running the m14-e untill i can find a proper serm. Im 17 days into halovar 50mg. and was thinking of adding it but from reading your prior posts im just gonna finnish the straight halovar as its my first prohormone ( unless u count andro from 10 years ago ) and im getting great results (6 lbs all muscle, new records in most lifts. ) for a 40 year old. I increased to 75mg at day 14, thinking 5 weeks maybe 6. any advise on lenght/dose of halovar cycle since i dont have a serm ?
 
rara said:
Thanks for the response. Ill hold off running the m14-e untill i can find a proper serm. Im 17 days into halovar 50mg. and was thinking of adding it but from reading your prior posts im just gonna finnish the straight halovar as its my first prohormone ( unless u count andro from 10 years ago ) and im getting great results (6 lbs all muscle, new records in most lifts. ) for a 40 year old. I increased to 75mg at day 14, thinking 5 weeks maybe 6. any advise on lenght/dose of halovar cycle since i dont have a serm ?
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No reason to add to the Halovar. Good choice.
 
Grambo said:
There should be some starting up very soon. Waiting on the loggers....
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I have a log should be done with by thanksgiving, I kicked off the M14e with 3 weeks of MDROL, overlapped one week for 4 wks of MDROL, and ran the M14e 2/2/3/3/3, ima currently in my 3 wk of just M14e and, have nothing but postive things to say, i have been running Organ Sheild along with my cycle as well. So far ima up 22lbs, yeah bitches, I have PR's acrossed the board on all lifts, even if there just a couple of pounds more, i had huge jump on my larger groups(chest, back and legs), mood has been fine(and i wuz expecting to be an unbearable pric k)don't know if the SAMe has been helping with this or what but its been fine, i havent seen much bloat but not really prone to water weight(low salt diet), i cant wait to see what tales the tape will tell, but i did do a quik check on my arms and ima up from 15 to 16 1/4, and everyone that sees me that hasnt seen me in awhile is like WTF, another thing the Epi is really doing a number on my stomache, i now have the veins on my lower abs(craziness) all in all ima stoked with this product and will be ordering up more even if i have to get the bulks and mix it myself, also now coming into the final weeks, ima gonna add bergamottin to my supps, to help stretch the effects. PURUS did a good job with this M14e, i havent seen any sides either. Log should be posted about DEC 1,
 
where are everyones logs for m14-e...or am i just that blind and cant find them? i wanna start my after the holidays and im curious to see how its working for everyone.
 
wiseguy15 said:
where are everyones logs for m14-e...or am i just that blind and cant find them? i wanna start my after the holidays and im curious to see how its working for everyone.
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Good question...... some are not contacting me back on why there has not been started. I think one guy had an injury so he had to stop lifitng for a month or two. Still waiting on one answer....

Oh well.....**** happens, always a possibility. This is why you see the same reliable people doing logs over newer people. What can you do? :)

What if I just say you won't be disappointed? lol
 
wiseguy15 said:
where are everyones logs for m14-e...or am i just that blind and cant find them? i wanna start my after the holidays and im curious to see how its working for everyone.
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If u havent already contacted Grambo(which is what I would suggest) then contact him. Id be happy to help u but u would probably be best served from a company rep.
 
ya, well if i dont see any cycle updates...well cant really do anything haha but im still gonna start my m14 cycle in jan. time frame...if you could...tell me what you think of my cycle

m14 (havent figured out breakdown yet)....suggestions?
cycle assist
fish oils, cla, vit b complex, multis,
taking zma and tribulis now but will stop during cycle and take during pct...?


im waiting on clomid and tomax to do...research with, which do u think is a better choice?
also gonna take pct assist and i was thinking reduce xt 3 weeks into pct for cortisol
starting back up my zma and tribulis either 3 weeks in as well or should start once i start my pct?

previouse cycles i just finished xtren and hdrol few months ago...as a pct for that i took reverisitol..should of takin something stronger i know but i feel fine now...so i thank the big man for that, biggest hit that did on me was my libido and emotional BS...but its back now...

...im 24, been lifting for years..was in the military (marines) for 5 plus years, done alot of cycles then but honeslty forget...ehhhh...

im 5ft 11 in. 183lbs and very lean...looking to reach my goal of 200lbs again..i hit that my last year in the marines...at taken some good stuff but obviously lost most of it over the past 2 years....just rough times..but now im back in the game and ready to play

so0 what u people got for me?
 
damn...no love...that aint right..thank you grambo for your help though...much appreciated. hopefully soon we can get some feedback on m14-e.
 
wiseguy15 said:
ya, well if i dont see any cycle updates...well cant really do anything haha but im still gonna start my m14 cycle in jan. time frame...if you could...tell me what you think of my cycle

m14 (havent figured out breakdown yet)....suggestions?

I would run something like 2/2/3/3 depending on your experience. 3 a day is supposed to be really good stuff.
cycle assist
fish oils, cla, vit b complex, multis,
taking zma and tribulis now but will stop during cycle and take during pct...?

ZMA is a good supplement (I like ZMK by MST) but Tribulus is good for one thing and that is libido but no testosterone increases or muscle gains. So ya I would drop them. Without shilling too much I would look into our Recycle to add to your SERM in PCT.


im waiting on clomid and tomax to do...research with, which do u think is a better choice?
also gonna take pct assist and i was thinking reduce xt 3 weeks into pct for cortisol
starting back up my zma and tribulis either 3 weeks in as well or should start once i start my pct?

Either one will work fine, it is really up to your personal preference.
PCT Assist is a good product, if you haven't gotten it see above about Recycle. Cortisol control is debatable but it will only help. Again Tribulus pretty worthless for anything specific. You could start ZMA whnever you wanted in PCT.

previouse cycles i just finished xtren and hdrol few months ago...as a pct for that i took reverisitol..should of takin something stronger i know but i feel fine now...so i thank the big man for that, biggest hit that did on me was my libido and emotional BS...but its back now...

...im 24, been lifting for years..was in the military (marines) for 5 plus years, done alot of cycles then but honeslty forget...ehhhh...

im 5ft 11 in. 183lbs and very lean...looking to reach my goal of 200lbs again..i hit that my last year in the marines...at taken some good stuff but obviously lost most of it over the past 2 years....just rough times..but now im back in the game and ready to play

so0 what u people got for me?
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Check out the bold! Anything else please let me know buddy :)
 
appreciate the help...as for recycle..that would just replace something or just add into the pct with pct assist, reduce xt, zma and clomid or tomax?
 
wait, if i run m14-e 30/30/45/45....thats more than one bottle correct? or am i miscounting? bc theres 60 in a bottle..first two weeks would be 28, last two weeks would be 42, 42 and 28 is 70 right so 10 over...getting another bottle really worth it? then id have to get two to make that sec. worth it unless i can stack or bridge the 50 remaining with something...this making any sense? just trying to think ahead so im not like ahhh when i cant by any anymore u know..
 
Haha ya the BEST strategy would be with two bottles. You could do 2 caps a day and see gains but optimal is probably 3 from all reports I have seen.
 
M14-e

GRAYHORSE said:
Everyone reacts different to compounds.
By reviews and people i've seen use the products, if you want Strenght and lean mass the go with E-Pol. If you want more size go with M14.
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Hello guys, new to all this, would what you call average, 190 and well toned, iam ready for bigger and mopre mass, friend told me about M14-e, any info on where i can get this, just got back from mexico yesterday and had No idea of this until i am back, Any help will help allot.
carl
 
murry1970 said:
Hello guys, new to all this, would what you call average, 190 and well toned, iam ready for bigger and mopre mass, friend told me about M14-e, any info on where i can get this, just got back from mexico yesterday and had No idea of this until i am back, Any help will help allot.
carl
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Lots of information in this thread, read up on it and then present us with specific questions about the product and we will get you all the information :)
 
Just purchased a bottle of m14-e after a friend of mine got amazing results (The dude is was skinny-fat, but has filled out and looks great). I plan on running only one cycle since I am new to prohormones. My questions is before I start I want to know what the best PCT is to use after im done with the m14-e? Any help would be appreciated.
 
ElxDuderino said:
Just purchased a bottle of m14-e after a friend of mine got amazing results (The dude is was skinny-fat, but has filled out and looks great). I plan on running only one cycle since I am new to prohormones. My questions is before I start I want to know what the best PCT is to use after im done with the m14-e? Any help would be appreciated.
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SERM + Recycle
 
Im thinking about a M14-e run but im curious if this compound will raise prolactin. Is epi a progestin?
 
rara said:
Im thinking about a M14-e run but im curious if this compound will raise prolactin. Is epi a progestin?
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neither compounds are progesterone's. m14add does aromatize and epi has some AI properties with it. you can run an AI on cycle but i don't believe you will need one.


the only prolactin based PH/DS are tren clones.
 
So is this essentially a PH wet/dry combo? I know epistane is dry... and being that one of the ingredients is Androstadiene-3, 17-diol, it is less likely to aromatise than a "dione" product right? I know that all their products are down on the webpage. Is this because of the recent ban?
 
drchildress said:
So is this essentially a PH wet/dry combo? I know epistane is dry... and being that one of the ingredients is Androstadiene-3, 17-diol, it is less likely to aromatise than a "dione" product right? I know that all their products are down on the webpage. Is this because of the recent ban?
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Epistane as you said is very dry. No estrogen conversion.

M14add is a precursor to Dbol so there is conversion to estrogen ( a good thing).

From most users they say that is pretty dry compound overall.

Yes we discontinued all products back awhile ago (PH related) due to all the pressure from FDA this year raiding companies. What is out there is the last of it..... I know it is getting close to gone :(
 
The FDA needs to step back man... they cant figure out why so many americans are fat-F**Ks and yet the continue to put extreme pressure on those of us who take our bodies seriously by limiting our freedoms...hurray america!
 
So Grambo, can I ask your personally opinion on Natadrol? I can't seem to find anyone who knows whats in it or if it actually works. I've heard plant based androgens?
 
drchildress said:
So Grambo, can I ask your personally opinion on Natadrol? I can't seem to find anyone who knows whats in it or if it actually works. I've heard plant based androgens?
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Ya it is supposed to be some sort of androgens from plants. I really don't know much about it nor does anyone much other than LG. Waiting to see what some non sponsored logs have to say about it. Other than that I am as clueless as you!
 
Grambo said:
Epistane as you said is very dry. No estrogen conversion.

M14add is a precursor to Dbol so there is conversion to estrogen ( a good thing).

From most users they say that is pretty dry compound overall.

Yes we discontinued all products back awhile ago (PH related) due to all the pressure from FDA this year raiding companies. What is out there is the last of it..... I know it is getting close to gone :(
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it was a sad day when the products were all discontinued
 
I have 2 bottles of M14-E and I honestly dont think I want to get another bottle or make this 2 cycles.

How crazy does this sound?
8 days on 2 caps a day
12 days on 3 days a day
17 days on 4 caps a day

This goes against what I tell other people.
 
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