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NEW PRODUCT!! FOLLIDRONE FAQ

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Geoforce said:
Actually you're buying the combination of ingredients which work together to create incredible results. You can feel free to check the write-up and the logs we have online. You don't simply look at each ingredient individually for anything. We are happy to have competition, but the above post is disingenuous and complete conjecture and opinion in an effort to dismiss our product. It would be fantastic in the middle of your product pimping if you could not bash our product as we have done nothing but offer you the same courtesy time and time again as people have tried to compare our product. Feedback on Follidrone has been awesome, but it has been terrific on MyoSynergy as well and you don't need to bash us with incredibly biased "opinions" on a competitors formula. As I've said many times, I don't view the two products as having anything in common except for one ingredient. If we just wanted to release a single ingredient product we would have without anything else in it. We didn't choose to do that. Really no need for posts like the above, especially after how our company has treated yours.
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I have no skin in the game nor have I tried either product. That being said, you gave a very well written and classy response but quickly followed it up with an extremely hypocritical gesture. Very bb.com like.
 
todd muelheim said:
I have no skin in the game nor have I tried either product. That being said, you gave a very well written and classy response but quickly followed it up with an extremely hypocritical gesture. Very bb.com like.
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I don't see what is hypocritical about it, but I shouldn't have had to make the post in the first place. We don't tend to run around looking for these type of fights, but shouldn't have to defend ourselves from unwarranted attacks when we have done nothing but avoided them when people tried to compare.

If you're talking about the user feedback I was attempting to show that not everyone felt the same as Brundel that has actually ran both products. I've always been cool with BLR and use their products and have defended them numerous times. It's a shame that respect has not gone both ways.

I'm not trying to start some big thing though, just simply saying we don't need our product trashed as we have never done that to anyone else despite all of the times we have been asked to comment on other people.
 
Without trying to speak for Brundel, I can say that if anything came across as bashing, it was misinterpreted in E-speak. The one thing about him and his company is that he respects everyone on here and is obviously passionate about his business. There is a reason people are following him and his products in a land of much larger companies with many reps and history. Lets let the great community here that we all share in make their own choices and decisions and let bygones be bygones.

He has a very high quality product and I am sure you do as well, but there has to be an understandable passion that needs to be respected in our community that we all care about to help fellow consumers. Again, I am not speaking for him, but I trust his stance 100% enough to take his back and say that he meant no disrespect to you or any other company.
 
That is fair, we have a passion for our products as well and I can assure you that every ingredient put into MyoSynergy was put in for a purpose and is explained in considerable detail in our write-up. We are not a big company either and have a creator that has slaved away in the business for close to two decades innovating every step of the way and only releasing products he is confident in that work. We do not speak ill of other companies products and support other companies with our words and dollars. I've been a user of BLR products in the past and will be in the future I'm sure.
 
I found this ingredient through BLR and Follidrone. So went with them.

Plus Brundel seems like good guy. Passionate, honest. I like the way the guy carries himself.
 
Johnold said:
I found this ingredient through BLR and Follidrone. So went with them.

Plus Brundel seems like good guy. Passionate, honest. I like the way the guy carries himself.
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where did u buy it?
 
Geoforce said:
That is fair, we have a passion for our products as well and I can assure you that every ingredient put into MyoSynergy was put in for a purpose and is explained in considerable detail in our write-up. We are not a big company either and have a creator that has slaved away in the business for close to two decades innovating every step of the way and only releasing products he is confident in that work. We do not speak ill of other companies products and support other companies with our words and dollars. I've been a user of BLR products in the past and will be in the future I'm sure.
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While I understand your view you must understand I have no intention of trying to bash Evomuse. Over the course of my day I respond to about 300+ PM,Email,and posts....I type fast and I sometimes neglect to consider other peoples positions. Its not an intentional attack on you guys at all its just my response to a question and how I really feel. Again....I dont have any reason to attack you guys or anyone for that matter. We are competitors though at the end of the day but that doesnt mean we cant respect each other. It is hypocritical though to say you would never do the same and then at the end of your post there is something negative. Basically your complaining about me doing something and then in the same post doing the same thing. Especially considering this is a follidrone thread in our paid subforum. Would you like me to go into the evomuse forum and start posting our reviews? I can.....let me know. Ill expect you to not do this again.
 
brundel said:
While I understand your view you must understand I have no intention of trying to bash Evomuse. Over the course of my day I respond to about 300+ PM,Email,and posts....I type fast and I sometimes neglect to consider other peoples positions. Its not an intentional attack on you guys at all its just my response to a question and how I really feel. Again....I dont have any reason to attack you guys or anyone for that matter. We are competitors though at the end of the day but that doesnt mean we cant respect each other. It is hypocritical though to say you would never do the same and then at the end of your post there is something negative. Basically your complaining about me doing something and then in the same post doing the same thing. Especially considering this is a follidrone thread in our paid subforum. Would you like me to go into the evomuse forum and start posting our reviews? I can.....let me know. Ill expect you to not do this again.
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Whether or not you have the intention is irrelevant, it was quite clear how it came off. You told people to ignore all the other ingredients in our formula which make it unique and to buy your product. If that is respect you have an odd way of showing it. The only reason I posted the review was to show that your conjecture and biased opinion was not necessarily the opinion of those who have ran both products. As I said we put in every ingredient for a reason as part of a comprehensive formula.

mr.cooper69 said:
This holds true even if you remove epicatechin from myosynergy. It has 3 ingredients proven to improve anabolism in humans
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I have removed the review and have said all I need to say. Have a good one.
 
Geoforce said:
Whether or not you have the intention is irrelevant, it was quite clear how it came off. You told people to ignore all the other ingredients in our formula which make it unique and to buy your product. If that is respect you have an odd way of showing it. The only reason I posted the review was to show that your conjecture and biased opinion was not necessarily the opinion of those who have ran both products. You can't really expect us not to defend ourselves from baseless attacks.

I will take out the review and that can be the end. Hopefully in the future you won't need to talk bad about someone else's product in order to hype your own.
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The real question is whos product came out first? who's the biter?
 
fightnews said:
The real question is whos product came out first? who's the biter?
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As far as I know neither. Follidrone hit NP before us, but Matt had been prepping MyoSynergy for long before that. We hit a production snag. We didn't copy off anyone, the ingredient has been known about for a while. We just used it as part of our comprehensive muscle building formula.
 
What might set one product aside from the other is how much of the main ingredient is in one capsule or serving because it's an expensive ingredient.
 
Hey Brundel is PHF going to get any follidrone ? Also it seems like in the Patrick Arnold section he doesn't think this product will work mainly because the claims are a little out there from what he said.
 
dcoen21 said:
Hey Brundel is PHF going to get any follidrone ? Also it seems like in the Patrick Arnold section he doesn't think this product will work mainly because the claims are a little out there from what he said.
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it already does work
 
dcoen21 said:
Hey Brundel is PHF going to get any follidrone ? Also it seems like in the Patrick Arnold section he doesn't think this product will work mainly because the claims are a little out there from what he said.
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It doesn't matter because the proof is in the pudding. Every single person using this is getting similar results.
 
Johnold said:
I wonder like some products, that it works for some and not others?

Or is Epi just that badass?
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It is appearing that way. So far, no one has said that it didn't do what it claimed, and on this board, that would definitely happen if it didn't live up to the hype. People get down on products all the time if it doesn't work- and that is not happening.
 
kisaj said:
It is appearing that way. So far, no one has said that it didn't do what it claimed, and on this board, that would definitely happen if it didn't live up to the hype. People get down on products all the time if it doesn't work- and that is not happening.
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That's good stuff!

Cause I'm looking for something that has said to have PH like effects.

People said that about ARA. I never tried ARA.
 
I need something as a mainstay.

The supplements I'm on now aren't bad either.

I need to give Epi a go.
 
dcoen21 said:
Hey Brundel is PHF going to get any follidrone ? Also it seems like in the Patrick Arnold section he doesn't think this product will work mainly because the claims are a little out there from what he said.
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Like touey said.....it already works regardless of what PA thinks.
I like PA but hes making an uninformed assumption.


PHF wont be getting any I dont think.
 
Geoforce said:
Whether or not you have the intention is irrelevant, it was quite clear how it came off. You told people to ignore all the other ingredients in our formula which make it unique and to buy your product. If that is respect you have an odd way of showing it. The only reason I posted the review was to show that your conjecture and biased opinion was not necessarily the opinion of those who have ran both products. As I said we put in every ingredient for a reason as part of a comprehensive formula.



I have removed the review and have said all I need to say. Have a good one.
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Fantastic. Dont do it in our subforum.
Your presence here at all talking about a competing product is disrespectful.
Nobody had asked your opinion.

I told people the truth.

if you took all the other ingredients and put em in a formula would people buy it as an anabolic?
I sure hope not.
If they did they would highly unhappy.
 
brundel said:
Fantastic. Dont do it in our subforum.
Your presence here at all talking about a competing product is disrespectful.
Nobody had asked your opinion.

I told people the truth.

if you took all the other ingredients and put em in a formula would people buy it as an anabolic?
I sure hope not.
If they did they would highly unhappy.
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Actually your words were disrespectful. We had numerous chances to comment about your product when asked directly and avoided it time and time again. Because we have class and don't talk poorly about competitors products. And yes we had the chance numerous times. People DID ask us our opinion and we said more than once "we don't comment about competitors products."

As for the other ingredients they do have anabolic properties as has been pointed out in our write up and confirmed by Coop. Surely more anabolic than rice flour correct?

We haven't had anyone highly unhappy about MyoSynergy yet. And you haven't ran it so why bash it? Just to sell more product? That's pretty sad.

Your words were disingenuous at best. You wanted someone to buy Follidrone and not MyoSynergy so you deflected positive aspects of our product to make yours look better. Pretty sad again. We had the opportunity numerous times to do that EVEN when our opinion was asked. Out of respect to your product we declined time and time again.

We make it a habit of not bad mouthing other companies to sell product. Does this cost us sales? Probably. We just don't feel it is our place as reps and owners to use biased opinions to attempt to sway people away from products with conjecture.
 
The difference.....Im not trying to write off rice flour as an anabolic.
You do your thing. Ill do mine.
Again nobody asked your opinion.

Your exactly right. I would hope people buy Follidrone instead of Myosynergy.
This is a FOLLIDRONE thread....I pay to use this space for advertisement of course I defend our brand here.....SMH

If you find the truth disrespectful....Many do Im aware...then so be it.
I asked you nicely via PM to stop doing what your doing yet you persist.

If you choose to continue posting here.....
My next step would be a systematic breakdown of each ingredient. Im a big boy. Im sure youve seen how that goes.
My genuine, honest opinion of every ingredient in detail.
It would get closed quickly IM sure but not before 20k people read it. Just like 40k people have read this one and 60k some others.
Like it or not my opinions drive traffic.
Or should I come and state my opinions in Evomuse subforum like your doing now?
Only a 4 year old would believe what your doing is respectful.

Besides.....what are you gonna say about Follidrone? We decided to use too much (-)-epi?
You dislike the primary ingredient in your product?
Doesnt work? Good luck.

Ive said very little and as you probably already know I can say alot.

I wont continue here with you for even one more post.
Ill elevate it from here. Your call.
 
What is the difference between Formeron & Follidrone? I have used Formeron, fiinding it helped to lean me out. Will Follidrone work the same?
 
Beefeater71 said:
What is the difference between Formeron & Follidrone? I have used Formeron, fiinding it helped to lean me out. Will Follidrone work the same?
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Formeron is an AI, which binds and inhibits aromatase to lower estrogen, and subsequently raise testisterone.

Follidrone is not transdermal and is not in any way hormonal. It is a natural Anabolic that inhibits myostatin in the body, which is the rate limiting factor on muscle growth and in some cases seems to effect protein synthesis.

Folli wont dry you out like Formeron would have but it should help you gain lean mass, and strength, to an even greater degree.

Take a look at both write ups for differences, and read through some pages here for results from Folli, there are also logs all over AM and all if them are getting very positive results.
 
Beefeater71 said:
What is the difference between Formeron & Follidrone? I have used Formeron, fiinding it helped to lean me out. Will Follidrone work the same?
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Formeron is Formestane. Formestane is a suicidal aromatase inhibitor. THis inactivates the enzyme that converts testosterone to estrogen. IN turn estrogen drops and testosterone rises. It also has some prohormone conversion although this isnt its primary purpose. Just an added benefit. Follidrone is (-)-epicatechin. This is a relatively new compound to the supp industry. Its natural based. Its an anabolic. INcreases strength Muscle mass endurance Pump and aids in fat loss. If I were cutting Id use both personally.
 
brundel said:
The difference.....Im not trying to write off rice flour as an anabolic.
You do your thing. Ill do mine.
Again nobody asked your opinion.

Your exactly right. I would hope people buy Follidrone instead of Myosynergy.
This is a FOLLIDRONE thread....I pay to use this space for advertisement of course I defend our brand here.....SMH

If you find the truth disrespectful....Many do Im aware...then so be it.
I asked you nicely via PM to stop doing what your doing yet you persist.

If you choose to continue posting here.....
My next step would be a systematic breakdown of each ingredient. Im a big boy. Im sure youve seen how that goes.
My genuine, honest opinion of every ingredient in detail.
It would get closed quickly IM sure but not before 20k people read it. Just like 40k people have read this one and 60k some others.
Like it or not my opinions drive traffic.
Or should I come and state my opinions in Evomuse subforum like your doing now?
Only a 4 year old would believe what your doing is respectful.

Besides.....what are you gonna say about Follidrone? We decided to use too much (-)-epi?
You dislike the primary ingredient in your product?
Doesnt work? Good luck.

Ive said very little and as you probably already know I can say alot.

I wont continue here with you for even one more post.
Ill elevate it from here. Your call.
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The truth is in our write-up. People can look the references up for themselves. We have tons of scientific studies surrounding each and every ingredient. We didn't just throw a bunch of stuff in for no reason.

I haven't bashed Follidrone once, why would I? It's an excellent product with great feedback. As is MyoSynergy. If you can't find any negative feedback of either product then I'd say they are both winners wouldn't you?

Follidrone sales do not hurt us. Choices are great for consumers. As I've said numerous times they only share one ingredient. I've been the first to defend BLR from attacks and I would do so again in a heartbeat. We would never wish a company ill will as that doesn't help our number one goal which is creating great products.
 
Just picked up 2 bottles of Follidrone at NP! Can't wait to run it!









jk... the suspense is killing me lol.

I can't wait to try it B-)
 
Soo, just managed to order a bottle from JW yesterday, looking forward to try it!
I also happen to have an unopened bottle of Growth Factor XT laying around. Would these be beneficial to stack, because of the the EGCG in GFXT?
I read somewhere that EGCG could potentially enhance absorption.
 
NueroJohn said:
They are sold out too. Recently I became a first time buyer from their site and can tell you already they have great customer service. It was a pleasure to work with them on my order.
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I live in Indonesia and only TGB send overseas. Yes, great customer service.
 
I was telling a friend at work about Epi and Follidrone.

He said BLR and Brundel are what's up.

He's an AM member and NP customer.
 
I overheard three younger guys at the gym talking about Folli today and had a good 3-5 min conversation with them (which is extremely long for me at the gym). They were reading about it on another forum and will be placing orders. :)
 
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