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New guy, no supps yet?

newguyinhere2

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I am 18, about 165lbs, 5'10" and I workout about 5-6 days a week mostly after school if I don't have work and if I do then I go in the mornings. I have my workouts broken up into body, arms, legs, rest. Repeated. With cardio built into the first 3. What kind of supplements am I going to need for maximum gains and fat loss?
 
worry bout gains for now!

Pick up some magnesium creatine chelate, a protein powder if you're kind of struggling to eat meals, and a possible pre workout if you'd want.

None of these are needed, but all are simple little staples. Obviously I'm going to recommend Focus XT here, but don't let my rep status seem bias. Plenty of reviews and people will vouche for it.

Check into 5x5, starting strength, or 5/3/1 for a good beginning lifting program as well!
 
you need food not supps. but if you must the basics for now would be great:
Fish oil
Multi vit
creatine
protein

your body will respond to everything for the first few months.. includeing just looking at weights.

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xR1pp3Rx said:
you need food not supps. but if you must the basics for now would be great:
Fish oil
Multi vit
creatine
protein

your body will respond to everything for the first few months.. includeing just looking at weights.

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bingo! Protein, Creatine, Multi, and fish oil would be essentials.....other than that a preworkout never hurt anyone, something like Conquer could really kick your enjoyment in the gym up a notch
 
Staples my man, like everyone else is suggesting. Doesn't really matter what brand just get yourself some protein, creatine, bcaa's, maybe a preworkout. General health supplements are always good too if you feel like spending the money, or are lacking in a healthy diet - fish oil, multi-vitamin, powdered greens.
 
newguyinhere2 said:
I am 18, about 165lbs, 5'10" and I workout about 5-6 days a week mostly after school if I don't have work and if I do then I go in the mornings. I have my workouts broken up into body, arms, legs, rest. Repeated. With cardio built into the first 3. What kind of supplements am I going to need for maximum gains and fat loss?
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If I could suggest one thing, it would be that arms do not need their own day if you are grouping together back and chest and shoulders (unless you are including shoulders in arm day).

Don't over-emphasize arm day and focus on overall development everywhere else first and foremost.
 
Multi, protein, creatine, fish oil and maybe a preworkoutlike every one else said, I hope arms isn't the only upperbody muscle group your training, as a beginner you should focus on squats, deads, bench press, bent over rows, pull ups and overhead press
 
rep city up in here


just focus on meals, training and get a pre workout to give you a placebo effect lol

seriously though, get your diet down while you are young. I didnt understand the importance until my early early 20s. it will do more than any other supplement will. just think every time you eat a nice fat omelet, you are taking a magic pill!
 
newguyinhere2 said:
I am 18, about 165lbs, 5'10" and I workout about 5-6 days a week mostly after school if I don't have work and if I do then I go in the mornings. I have my workouts broken up into body, arms, legs, rest. Repeated. With cardio built into the first 3. What kind of supplements am I going to need for maximum gains and fat loss?
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All you really need at this point in my opinion:

*plenty of food
*a good multi vitamin
*a quality protein powder

Optional:

*a low stim pre workout
*a quality bcaa
*creatine

Certainly no more than that though
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
you need food not supps. but if you must the basics for now would be great:
Fish oil
Multi vit
creatine
protein

your body will respond to everything for the first few months.. includeing just looking at weights.

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exactly these are the essentials, the basics. You could also try Protean by iForce! the Red Velvet is the bomb! By far, my favorite
 
TheSwanks said:
All you really need at this point in my opinion:

*plenty of food
*a good multi vitamin
*a quality protein powder

Optional:

*a low stim pre workout
*a quality bcaa
*creatine

Certainly no more than that though
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THIS. /thread

INB4MIFR
 
Ok, sounds like you first need to consruct a decent workout program. Arms on their own day is a waist of training day IMO when you have back/chest/shoulders all in one day.

Second, food? Eat to grow, simple as that. Eat healthy food, lift heavy, get bigger and stronger.

Supps, just stick with basics. Whey, Creatine Mono, Fish Oil, Athletic Multi.
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
you need food not supps. but if you must the basics for now would be great:
Fish oil
Multi vit
creatine
protein

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For non-bias.
 
made me laugh haha ^^^^^^^


i agree on that you need to change your workout routine. 5x5, P/RR/S are two good workout routines.
 
R1balla said:
made me laugh haha ^^^^^^^


i agree on that you need to change your workout routine. 5x5, P/RR/S are two good workout routines.
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Agreed. While 5/3/1 may be somewhat advanced I've had huge success with it lately. (Ex: Went from 315x5 to 405x5 deadlift in ~6 months)
 
1. Whole foods and an understanding of macro and micronutrients.
2. Better workout split.
3. Sleep.
4. More whole foods.

At 18, 5'11" and 165ish, you have plenty of grow room from diet alone before having to worry about supplementing. Save the supps for when you plateau and need that little "something extra". Spend that money on food.
 
newguyinhere2 said:
I am 18, about 165lbs, 5'10" and I workout about 5-6 days a week mostly after school if I don't have work and if I do then I go in the mornings. I have my workouts broken up into body, arms, legs, rest. Repeated. With cardio built into the first 3. What kind of supplements am I going to need for maximum gains and fat loss?
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I will give you the same advice I have given every high school student I have worked with.

The 10 most important things are:



1) food
2) food
3) food
4) sleep
5) sleep
6) sleep
7) training
8) food
9) sleep
10) training

Supplement aren't even in the top ten.

But that doesn't mean they can't help you. They can, but only if you eat right and sleep enough.

Once diet is good, you don't have to worry about loosing weight from products. Here is what I would recommend.

1) creatine Monohydrate
2) protein
3) peanut butter
4) oats
5) more peanut butter

Peanut butter and protein are easy to take to school to supplement meals when you can't have actual food.
 
Sorry to change the topic but I'd rather not start another thread just for this one question, is 5 hours of sleep healthy for an 18 y/o?
 
newguyinhere2 said:
Sorry to change the topic but I'd rather not start another thread just for this one question, is 5 hours of sleep healthy for an 18 y/o?
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Not on a long term basis
 
newguyinhere2 said:
Sorry to change the topic but I'd rather not start another thread just for this one question, is 5 hours of sleep healthy for an 18 y/o?
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Maybe a couple nights but I wouldn't rely on that for long. Eventually I assume you will crash. I know I would.
 
newguyinhere2 said:
Sorry to change the topic but I'd rather not start another thread just for this one question, is 5 hours of sleep healthy for an 18 y/o?
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The problem is you won't build muscle with 5 hours of sleep on a consistent basis. Sure at 18 you will be able to function and do normal activities, but you won't make big gains in the gym.
 
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