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New Formulas of ABE/Erase Pro better or worse?

LiveToLift said:
Running it right now. Leaning way faster than expected yet strength has remained if not increased. Give it a try, you will definitely be happy with the results.
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Def want to pull the trigger on it in a couple weeks for summer lean out, maybe erase too if I can swing it...
 
bono1132 said:
Def want to pull the trigger on it in a couple weeks for summer lean out, maybe erase too if I can swing it...
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Waiting on my first run with ABE in the mail

however its not the new version

its the Old ABE + old EPro

hope the gains will be the same! I have asked this before but would it make much of a difference if i ran Dpol as a preworkout with ABE? or is it overkill?
either I would get Mr.Hyde as Preworkout while taking ABE then when Mr hyde runs out I would take Dpol. or just go bucknasty and take dpol and ABE at the same time? are the gains uncontrollable?
 
Gigantosaur said:
Waiting on my first run with ABE in the mail

however its not the new version

its the Old ABE + old EPro

hope the gains will be the same! I have asked this before but would it make much of a difference if i ran Dpol as a preworkout with ABE? or is it overkill?
either I would get Mr.Hyde as Preworkout while taking ABE then when Mr hyde runs out I would take Dpol. or just go bucknasty and take dpol and ABE at the same time? are the gains uncontrollable?
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You should be fine to take D-pol and ABE at the same time. :)
 
Gigantosaur said:
Waiting on my first run with ABE in the mail

however its not the new version

its the Old ABE + old EPro

hope the gains will be the same! I have asked this before but would it make much of a difference if i ran Dpol as a preworkout with ABE? or is it overkill?
either I would get Mr.Hyde as Preworkout while taking ABE then when Mr hyde runs out I would take Dpol. or just go bucknasty and take dpol and ABE at the same time? are the gains uncontrollable?
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I'm using d-pol with ABE and Erase altogether right now. It's fun.
 
Auslifter said:
you shouldn't be bodybuilding then lol a bit of water weight when bulking.. cmon
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He asked and I was just sayin. It's nice if your using DAA because erase will help with prolactin some people get while running DAA a lot of people like using them together, but either way that's what this product will do, lower estrogen and dry you out. Excited to check new formula as old can cause joint pain drying them out
 
Well I received my ABE & E-PRO today.

I'll see what the Pro version does for me than the regular version.
 
I've prolly went through 16 bottles of the old erase pro. And, I hate to admit it. I think it is much, much better compared to this new formula. I think the new formula is "ok" at best. I've been taking the new one for 6 weeks. To be honest, I don't think it's worth the money. The old formula gave a much drier appearance, better muscle pumps, fuller looking physique all day long. The new one doesn't even come close to the old ones physique changing benefits. I know companies like to come up with new science and have a pretty explanation and write out why the ingredients are better. But, in all honesty, don't fix something that isn't broken. That's my .2 cents. Can't say anything about ABE. I haven't taken the old formula.
 
bono1132 said:
He asked and I was just sayin. It's nice if your using DAA because erase will help with prolactin some people get while running DAA a lot of people like using them together, but either way that's what this product will do, lower estrogen and dry you out. Excited to check new formula as old can cause joint pain drying them out
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the new one takes a while to take effect.. not as good as armistane though. i have only been though one bottle though i got two now been on 2 caps a day new ep for first 2 weeks before lowering it, also using og erase. working nice so far, steady weight loss each week alongside norco and even with a mass refeed where i went well over my macros lol still woke up dry with only a slight increase in bw
 
Auslifter said:
the new one takes a while to take effect.. not as good as armistane though. i have only been though one bottle though i got two now been on 2 caps a day new ep for first 2 weeks before lowering it, also using og erase. working nice so far, steady weight loss each week alongside norco and even with a mass refeed where i went well over my macros lol still woke up dry with only a slight increase in bw
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2 caps of epro daily is not cost effective.

i am actually a fan of new ingredients, but they are underdosed, imo.
 
GreenMachineX said:
I'm using d-pol with ABE and Erase altogether right now. It's fun.
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this makes me want to take both at the same time, hitting the natty limit barrier! :D
but it makes me kinda worried though, just overloading my body and im afraid to react in a negative way to it.

the stack would go as shown below:

Select protein
Met RX multivitamin
ErasePro
Anabeta elite
DPOL OR MR HYDE (preworkout)
Omega 3
PurpleWraath/Re-con post workout or intra, i have no idea ( for the beta alanine+bcaas in purple wraath OR beta alanine+glutamine+bcaa in recon)

yay or nay?
 
Gigantosaur said:
this makes me want to take both at the same time, hitting the natty limit barrier! :D
but it makes me kinda worried though, just overloading my body and im afraid to react in a negative way to it.

the stack would go as shown below:

Select protein
Met RX multivitamin
ErasePro
Anabeta elite
DPOL OR MR HYDE (preworkout)
Omega 3
PurpleWraath/Re-con post workout or intra, i have no idea ( for the beta alanine+bcaas in purple wraath OR beta alanine+glutamine+bcaa in recon)

yay or nay?
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I say yay. Maybe space out starting the AnaBeta and Erase by a week or so to ensure no allergies or anything strange if you've never tried them before.
 
Gigantosaur said:
this makes me want to take both at the same time, hitting the natty limit barrier! :D
but it makes me kinda worried though, just overloading my body and im afraid to react in a negative way to it.

the stack would go as shown below:

Select protein
Met RX multivitamin
ErasePro
Anabeta elite
DPOL OR MR HYDE (preworkout)
Omega 3
PurpleWraath/Re-con post workout or intra, i have no idea ( for the beta alanine+bcaas in purple wraath OR beta alanine+glutamine+bcaa in recon)

yay or nay?
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4 week or 8 week run? I'd you're going for 8 weeks tough could wait for erase till after the second week then run it solo for two at the end is what a lot of people enjoy.... Have you looked at cellucor cor bcaas? They are fantastic. Just sayin
 
bono1132 said:
4 week or 8 week run? I'd you're going for 8 weeks tough could wait for erase till after the second week then run it solo for two at the end is what a lot of people enjoy.... Have you looked at cellucor cor bcaas? They are fantastic. Just sayin
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4 week run, going to take the full dosage of ABE to see whats up in 1 month, the dosage on EPro is 1month right? I thought I could take them the same time as I start ABE to finish at the same

i havent had any celucor bcaas, but I have the Re-Con and purple wraath leftover here and i plan to finish them first. but ill look into celucor next time over

I say yay. Maybe space out starting the AnaBeta and Erase by a week or so to ensure no allergies or anything strange if you've never tried them before.
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I have taken Erase + alphamine before nothing happend so I think im alright.
 
LiveToLift said:
Running it right now. Leaning way faster than expected yet strength has remained if not increased. Give it a try, you will definitely be happy with the results.
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so norco+new ABE is a better combo for fat loss goal than ALPHAMINE+NEW ABE??
THANKS!
 
1kerry said:
so norco+new ABE is a better combo for fat loss goal than ALPHAMINE+NEW ABE?? THANKS!
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I personally would suggest either to be honest. I'm just currently really enjoying my Norco stack.
 
Gigantosaur said:
this makes me want to take both at the same time, hitting the natty limit barrier! :D
but it makes me kinda worried though, just overloading my body and im afraid to react in a negative way to it.

the stack would go as shown below:

Select protein
Met RX multivitamin
ErasePro
Anabeta elite
DPOL OR MR HYDE (preworkout)
Omega 3
PurpleWraath/Re-con post workout or intra, i have no idea ( for the beta alanine+bcaas in purple wraath OR beta alanine+glutamine+bcaa in recon)

yay or nay?
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Looks good to me, no issues there.

1kerry said:
so norco+new ABE is a better combo for fat loss goal than ALPHAMINE+NEW ABE??
THANKS!
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Both should be effective. I personally like Norcodrene more...stuff is crazy effective in my experience.
 
1kerry said:
so norco+new ABE is a better combo for fat loss goal than ALPHAMINE+NEW ABE??
THANKS!
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Both amazing,

I find using norco Pre workout has been amazing for my workouts. Improved mood, performance
 
bdybldnaam said:
Haven't seen any logs of the new ABE..?

Anyone logging it?

Huge fan of OG AB/ABE so very interested in the new formula.
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I didn't log it but have finished a 2 bottle run of the new ABE not too long ago. I love it. Doesn't lose anything from the OG formula and I've noticed some good endurance benefits. Positive body comp as well.
 
I don't know if this is just me or if anyone else can chime in on this too but with these NEW REFORMULATED versions of Erase Pro & AnaBeta Elite I'm getting red rash like coloration on arms and torso. It's strange. Body gets hot and looks like I ran for like an hour or something. Doesn't hurt or itch or anything but it's very strange. I don't know if it's Erase Pro Or ABE. I'm thinking it's the ABE cause I take EPro early in the morning. ABE is later in the day.

What's in this stuff that's causing this?

BTW, the condition goes away after like 35-40 minutes.
 
Johnold said:
I don't know if this is just me or if anyone else can chime in on this too but with these NEW REFORMULATED versions of Erase Pro & AnaBeta Elite I'm getting red rash like coloration on arms and torso. It's strange. Body gets hot and looks like I ran for like an hour or something. Doesn't hurt or itch or anything but it's very strange. I don't know if it's Erase Pro Or ABE. I'm thinking it's the ABE cause I take EPro early in the morning. ABE is later in the day.

What's in this stuff that's causing this?

BTW, the condition goes away after like 35-40 minutes.
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Haven't heard of this but it sounds like an allergic reaction. Try cutting one out and then the other to isolate which one it is
 
kissdadookie said:
I didn't log it but have finished a 2 bottle run of the new ABE not too long ago. I love it. Doesn't lose anything from the OG formula and I've noticed some good endurance benefits. Positive body comp as well.
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I am glad you said this. I have had so many people discussing the new version like we were forced to release it and therefore it is a trade down.

We are more than happy to improve a product if the research is there. The new ABE feels a lot stronger to me than the old one.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Haven't heard of this but it sounds like an allergic reaction. Try cutting one out and then the other to isolate which one it is
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its the erase pro for sure, i ran out of anabeta elite yesterday been having the same issue. noticed it happen today w/o anabeta elite
 
hey guys, how long does Erase (OG) usually take to be noticed, or at least to kick-in? I'm on day 3 at 75mg but haven't felt anything in terms of joints, drying out or other effects most people report. Is it too early? Quite a few users stated it starts to make a palpable impact on the body straight away from day 1.
 
Auslifter said:
its the erase pro for sure, i ran out of anabeta elite yesterday been having the same issue. noticed it happen today w/o anabeta elite
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Ok! Glad it's not just me.

It's really strange man!

Started to happen like within day 4 or 5 of taking both new stuff since I received them last Thursday.

And I have been just taking 1 cap a day. Although yesterday I took 2. But 1 or 2 it doesn't matter. I get really red all over my torso and arms especially from my elbow up to shoulders.

I'm speechless.
 
bdcc said:
I am glad you said this. I have had so many people discussing the new version like we were forced to release it and therefore it is a trade down.

We are more than happy to improve a product if the research is there. The new ABE feels a lot stronger to me than the old one.
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IMO, it's probably still the #1 product you guys put out.
 
kissdadookie said:
IMO, it's probably still the #1 product you guys put out.
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I always have a soft spot for AnaBeta. It was the first product I logged and loved it so much I applied to join PES. It is my bulking soul mate. :D
 
MaXopA said:
hey guys, how long does Erase (OG) usually take to be noticed, or at least to kick-in? I'm on day 3 at 75mg but haven't felt anything in terms of joints, drying out or other effects most people report. Is it too early? Quite a few users stated it starts to make a palpable impact on the body straight away from day 1.
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7-10 days.
 
kissdadookie said:
IMO, it's probably still the #1 product you guys put out.
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AnaBeta Elite is my favorite product in our line, but AminoIV has made a strong run at it and Norcodrene has jumped up pretty high on my list too. :)
 
bolt10 said:
AnaBeta Elite is my favorite product in our line, but AminoIV has made a strong run at it and Norcodrene has jumped up pretty high on my list too. :)
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Speaking of Norcodrene, it's very effective. This is what now, week 3 or so for me? Down 4 solid pounds. Body composition has improved very notably. I am using it with bronkaid but Norcodrene + bronkaid + forskolin appears to be more effective IMO than EC + forskolin. I'm very impressed with the product thus far.
 
kissdadookie said:
Speaking of Norcodrene, it's very effective. This is what now, week 3 or so for me? Down 4 solid pounds. Body composition has improved very notably. I am using it with bronkaid but Norcodrene + bronkaid + forskolin appears to be more effective IMO than EC + forskolin. I'm very impressed with the product thus far.
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Ya I train more for performance and I find the AnaBeta Elite + Norcodrene + AminoIV combo tough to beat in terms of recovery between workouts and ability to add strength and muscle while keeping body fat from climbing (or preserving LBM and burning fat while still improving strength). ;)
 
bolt10 said:
Ya I train more for performance and I find the AnaBeta Elite + Norcodrene + AminoIV combo tough to beat in terms of recovery between workouts and ability to add strength and muscle while keeping body fat from climbing (or preserving LBM and burning fat while still improving strength). ;)
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Very nice :D

What I'm pretty impressed with here is how I'm shedding virtually all fat :D My muscles are not as full now usually but that's due to me cutting out a good deal of carbs thus it takes longer to get a pump going. I didn't go too crazy cutting calories either, I'm on average at around a 400 or so caloric deficit. So far so good, you guys just keep churning out the magic and I'll keep being loyal.
 
kissdadookie said:
Very nice :D

What I'm pretty impressed with here is how I'm shedding virtually all fat :D My muscles are not as full now usually but that's due to me cutting out a good deal of carbs thus it takes longer to get a pump going. I didn't go too crazy cutting calories either, I'm on average at around a 400 or so caloric deficit. So far so good, you guys just keep churning out the magic and I'll keep being loyal.
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Ya I have no doubt the good stuff will keep churning out. I get as excited as are loyal customer base. :p
 
kissdadookie said:
Very nice :D What I'm pretty impressed with here is how I'm shedding virtually all fat :D My muscles are not as full now usually but that's due to me cutting out a good deal of carbs thus it takes longer to get a pump going. I didn't go too crazy cutting calories either, I'm on average at around a 400 or so caloric deficit. So far so good, you guys just keep churning out the magic and I'll keep being loyal.
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We really do appreciate the support and am glad to hear you are enjoying our products. :)
 
pjunior33 said:
So I've heard conflicting reports of which version is better of both AnaBeta Elite and Erase Pro, just ordered the new versions of both, having already taken the "original" versions of both will i be disappointed with these new updated versions??
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New formula is total garbage. Androsta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione has probably been baned and they replaced it with an herb called Uncaria Tomentosa (Bark) Extract, Pine Bark Extract (containing Abieta-8,11,13-trien-18-oic acid) baiscally its a resin acid present in pulp and paper mill effluent. studies on it have found it helps with things ranging from diabetis in mice to topical agente on genital herpes.

The closest to an estrogen blocker this thing got was in a study done in raibow trouts. LOL not joking: Invalid Link Removed

So my take its garbage. If you were looking for an effective estrogen blocker I´d recomed Iron Labs E-Control - which was the increaditable and proven 6-OXO. But the FDA got the first formula and now they have E-CONTROL 2.0. The ingredient in it is Androsta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione LOL which is a much, much, much yet again less potent aromataze inhibitor than 6-OXO.
 
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