new formula erase pro

raptor2003 said:
LOL !!! am running this right now

4 caps OG anabeta and 4 caps new erase !!!
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Enjoy. I'm excited about the new natadrol so it's okay but erase/Ab is always a good time. Let me know how you like it. I do 3/4
 
CountryLiftin said:
Enjoy. I'm excited about the new natadrol so it's okay but erase/Ab is always a good time. Let me know how you like it. I do 3/4
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got 1 bottle of new erase pro as well. gonna try it soon

I like the old version of erase better...more dry look and since it's suicidal no need to taper dosage at the end. not sure about the new version erase is suicidal or not
 
Nice! Too rich for me currently lol. I'm jealous. New erase is 2/3 ingredients from erase pro... I need to look at them individually through haven't had time. I was just trying to get arimistane. Lol.
 
was just trying to stock up on erase OG, but got shipped the new formula instead; I will ship these back and look for OG erase
 
raptor2003 said:
was just trying to stock up on erase OG, but got shipped the new formula instead; I will ship these back and look for OG erase
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There's plenty of products out there with 75 mg's of arimistane. I stocked up on OG Erase a few months back but that was because they came in at like $20 a bottle so it was a pretty good deal, but if I really wanted something with 75 mg's of arimistane in it, there's plenty of products still on the market with just that.
 
Yeah but I didn't know until After I got it and popped a few. Oh well. Only paid like 20 for it. Seemed to work too so maybe ill like it.
 
i signed up at the V.A last week. today i went for blood test, thursday i go for doctors appointment.


today is exactly 1 week being off trt....it is also 1 week being on new formula erase pro.

i was on androgel which is used everyday....i don't know this for sure but i think any test boosting from androgel would have cleared my body in 1 week?

lol....this is a double edged sword for me, in one way i hope erase pro kept test level higher than normal, on the other hand i hope it isn't too high!!!!
 
Went and got some PCT black because new Erase doesn't seem to be giving me the acute dryness I was looking for like original with arimistane did.
 
Let me know how that pct black works out!!! I too have given up on this new erase.. I still like pes products!! There a great company but this new erase just ain't it. No where close to the og...
 
i asked once before and someone[not a pes rep]told me to take new formula erase pro with food....i have been dosing with breakfast, but today i forgot and didn't take it until around 10 oclock on an empty...i was peeing like crazy and seem to be drier today!!!

so i will ask this question once more...is new formula erase pro more beneficial WITH food or WITHOUT? i would appreciate it if a pes rep would give me the official pes stance on this, please and thank you!!!!
 
thebigt said:
i asked once before and someone[not a pes rep]told me to take new formula erase pro with food....i have been dosing with breakfast, but today i forgot and didn't take it until around 10 oclock on an empty...i was peeing like crazy and seem to be drier today!!!

so i will ask this question once more...is new formula erase pro more beneficial WITH food or WITHOUT? i would appreciate it if a pes rep would give me the official pes stance on this, please and thank you!!!!
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It is not a big deal either way sir
 
mr.cooper69 said:
It is not a big deal either way sir
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thank you, i seemed to get more from it dosed on an empty, wanted to make sure this wasn't a fluke. i will continue empty stomach dosing from here on out.
 
I'm actually 10 days into my 2nd straight bottle of the new Erase Pro.

Here is what I've noticed:

I've always liked either 2 caps OG Erase. Or 1 cap OG Erase Pro EOD. This kept me dry and curtailed the joint issues.

40 days into the new Erase Pro at 1 cap daily, I have noticed zero joint problems and have noticed significant dryness and fat loss. The hardness is on par with what I noticed with 1 OG EP EOD. I cannot compare it to OG EP every day because I never was able to stick out EP every day due to the joint issues.

But I have been very happy with the new Erase Pro. I also have not noticed a plateau yet, where I remember the original leaving me plateaued at around 3 weeks.

I have not yet tried the new Anabeta Elite but the formula looks solid.
 
Clemenza said:
I'm actually 10 days into my 2nd straight bottle of the new Erase Pro.

Here is what I've noticed:

I've always liked either 2 caps OG Erase. Or 1 cap OG Erase Pro EOD. This kept me dry and curtailed the joint issues.

40 days into the new Erase Pro at 1 cap daily, I have noticed zero joint problems and have noticed significant dryness and fat loss. The hardness is on par with what I noticed with 1 OG EP EOD. I cannot compare it to OG EP every day because I never was able to stick out EP every day due to the joint issues.

But I have been very happy with the new Erase Pro. I also have not noticed a plateau yet, where I remember the original leaving me plateaued at around 3 weeks.

I have not yet tried the new Anabeta Elite but the formula looks solid.
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Sounds like a win to me.
 
Clemenza said:
I'm actually 10 days into my 2nd straight bottle of the new Erase Pro.

Here is what I've noticed:

I've always liked either 2 caps OG Erase. Or 1 cap OG Erase Pro EOD. This kept me dry and curtailed the joint issues.

40 days into the new Erase Pro at 1 cap daily, I have noticed zero joint problems and have noticed significant dryness and fat loss. The hardness is on par with what I noticed with 1 OG EP EOD. I cannot compare it to OG EP every day because I never was able to stick out EP every day due to the joint issues.

But I have been very happy with the new Erase Pro. I also have not noticed a plateau yet, where I remember the original leaving me plateaued at around 3 weeks.

I have not yet tried the new Anabeta Elite but the formula looks solid.
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how much fat loss? how did you gauge it? calipers?
 
Clemenza said:
I'm actually 10 days into my 2nd straight bottle of the new Erase Pro.

Here is what I've noticed:

I've always liked either 2 caps OG Erase. Or 1 cap OG Erase Pro EOD. This kept me dry and curtailed the joint issues.

40 days into the new Erase Pro at 1 cap daily, I have noticed zero joint problems and have noticed significant dryness and fat loss. The hardness is on par with what I noticed with 1 OG EP EOD. I cannot compare it to OG EP every day because I never was able to stick out EP every day due to the joint issues.

But I have been very happy with the new Erase Pro. I also have not noticed a plateau yet, where I remember the original leaving me plateaued at around 3 weeks.

I have not yet tried the new Anabeta Elite but the formula looks solid.
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Did it crush your boners?
 
So the new erase hasn't been working for me (ERASE. NOT PRO) so today I took 5 spreaded out 2-2-1. And I am dry like the og erase almost like formestane. So is it under dosed or I just may need a little more to see the effects?
 
Yea I know.... But I guess I got to pay to play... Hopefully I can bump it back down and see the same results..
 
Cjg said:
So the new erase hasn't been working for me (ERASE. NOT PRO) so today I took 5 spreaded out 2-2-1. And I am dry like the og erase almost like formestane. So is it under dosed or I just may need a little more to see the effects?
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Kind of makes me glad I have 4 bottles of the old Erase left? :P
 
I'm using 1 cap of erase pro and loving it. I know I work for PES but I prefer the new version. Joints are great, libido is good, shoulder striations more noticeable.
 
it's been 3 days since I started 2 caps/day of the new erase pro, more dry as compared to new erase@ 4caps/day

I think it is the boerhaavia accounting for the dryness since the old erase pro was too strong for many: 75mg arimistane and boerhaavia which is already very drying

I would rather have 2-3 caps of old erase than new erase pro. pricewise too

so PES reps nobody knows whether new formulation needs tapering or not?
 
Cjg said:
So the new erase hasn't been working for me (ERASE. NOT PRO) so today I took 5 spreaded out 2-2-1. And I am dry like the og erase almost like formestane. So is it under dosed or I just may need a little more to see the effects?
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Everyone responds differently. Based on the studies on DHAA and preliminary testing, it is properly dosed at 3 caps, but for whatever reason you may idiosyncratically be less response to it (e.g. increased pharmacogenetic CYP levels responsible for metabolizing this particular compound)
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Everyone responds differently. Based on the studies on DHAA and preliminary testing, it is properly dosed at 3 caps, but for whatever reason you may idiosyncratically be less response to it (e.g. increased pharmacogenetic CYP levels responsible for metabolizing this particular compound)
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Does this mean usage if supplements that are metabolized by this cyp sub unit cause the need for possible increase in dosing

For example in case I wasn't clear

Caffeine usage. Metabolized by cyp450 1a2 and 3a4. Continued and increase use cause up regulation of this pathway

If DHAa works via this pathway it's rapidly metabolized thus needing much more for desired effect?
 
EBF Inc said:
Does this mean usage if supplements that are metabolized by this cyp sub unit cause the need for possible increase in dosing

For example in case I wasn't clear

Caffeine usage. Metabolized by cyp450 1a2 and 3a4. Continued and increase use cause up regulation of this pathway

If DHAa works via this pathway it's rapidly metabolized thus needing much more for desired effect?
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No no. What you described is an upregulation of CYP activity in response to repeated stimulation. This is known as "induction."

What I am talking about is pharmacogenetic variation. The main one we look out for in medicine is CYP2C9, which is can be up to 30% less efficient in metabolizing warfarin in certain populations.

The key difference here is producing more enzyme (caffeine) vs having a hyperfunctional/dysfunctional polymorphism of the enzyme (possibly DHAA)
 
mr.cooper69 said:
No no. What you described is an upregulation of CYP activity in response to repeated stimulation. This is known as "induction."

What I am talking about is pharmacogenetic variation. The main one we look out for in medicine is CYP2C9, which is can be up to 30% less efficient in metabolizing warfarin in certain populations.

The key difference here is producing more enzyme (caffeine) vs having a hyperfunctional/dysfunctional polymorphism of the enzyme (possibly DHAA)
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I was just about to say this.




... oh no. No I wasn't lol. :)
 
Cjg said:
Well I've been on the new erase for 7 days playing with the dosages from 3 to 5 caps. And have noticed nothing.... The old erase I notice something in 3 days.. Even sad to say bpi a hd I can tell something is going on... In a few days..
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I can tell you I noticed nothing with the og erase.
Does it means its not working ? I'm not sure. Without the labs it's hard to say....

The new erase+dopa stack looks tempting.
Would you guys use the new erase as AI after PH run.? Or it's better to stick right now with older and more trusted AIs ?
 
abudabu said:
I can tell you I noticed nothing with the og erase.
Does it means its not working ? I'm not sure. Without the labs it's hard to say....

The new erase+dopa stack looks tempting.
Would you guys use the new erase as AI after PH run.? Or it's better to stick right now with older and more trusted AIs ?
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That stack is a crazy price right now. Add some sodium DAA (if you respond to it) and you have a sick stack for like 40 bucks!
 
Yes it's really good to pass (:

Gonna grab me one.
Just curious. I probably missed this information in this big thread. Is this AI suicidal?
 
niclas90 said:
An answer sure would be nice PES ;)
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Here you go

mr.cooper69 said:
You guys need to PM me in the future! I don't see all the threads.

First, I can go in depth at a later time, but rebound is a fairly nonexistent phenomenon due to the rapid adaptability of gene transcription. It was never an issue to begin with. Competitive vs suicidal AIs simply give fast on-fast off effects, vs slow on-slow off. The evidence at this point is that it is an allosteric inhibitor of aromatase. This could be suicidal or short-lived; the data isn't there, and the bloodwork doesn't tell a clear-cut tale. One thing that definitely isn't observed though is an INCREASE in estrogen (aka rebound), so write that off your list of concerns
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i have been using the new formula erase pro for almost 3 weeks now[20] days.

just a few thoughts:
no decrease in libido
no joint pain[keep in mind i am 55]
no bad sides of any kind

with that said, i think this formula has great potential....but i have never been a one size fits all kinda guy. being a big guy all my life and topping off atm at 203 i feel it is slightly underdosed, at least for me. keep in mind that i did double dose one time and almost immediately felt joint discomfort start to creep in. imho i think a 3 cap option, with 50% more actives split between 3 caps would be the best way to go. even a 2 cap option at a 1.5 actives increase. i don't think doubling of the dose is neccessary, but it is a little lacking as far as results i am used to from ai's.

before everyone starts thinking i am knocking the product, on the contrary...i think the ingredients in the new formula are effective and best of all don't kill my joints or libido, i am only pointing out that the dose might need a little tweaking...afterall this is a high price point product!!!
 
BigT- Aren't you taking it with other products though?. I thought I read that you were using something like 4 other products that also effect hormones because you went off TRT for a while.
 
thebigt said:
i have been using the new formula erase pro for almost 3 weeks now[20] days. just a few thoughts: no decrease in libido no joint pain[keep in mind i am 55] no bad sides of any kind with that said, i think this formula has great potential....but i have never been a one size fits all kinda guy. being a big guy all my life and topping off atm at 203 i feel it is slightly underdosed, at least for me. keep in mind that i did double dose one time and almost immediately felt joint discomfort start to creep in. imho i think a 3 cap option, with 50% more actives split between 3 caps would be the best way to go. even a 2 cap option at a 1.5 actives increase. i don't think doubling of the dose is neccessary, but it is a little lacking as far as results i am used to from ai's. before everyone starts thinking i am knocking the product, on the contrary...i think the ingredients in the new formula are effective and best of all don't kill my joints or libido, i am only pointing out that the dose might need a little tweaking...afterall this is a high price point product!!!
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Thanx for the update

Only the groupies will take it offensive in some way lol
 
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