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Rob94hawk

Rob94hawk

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Is there anything out there that doesn't require PCT? Don't need huge gains. I just need a nice boost.

Now that killer allergy season is over and I finally feel better I can get back to running and lifting.

Been out of the loop for a while. Was researching Ibutamoren/MK-667. This and a test booster.

I'm over 50 and before I got allergy sick this past month I was running and lifting. Sort of training for this years Tough Mudder.

Appreciate the advise.
 
At this point you’ll be scared of anything and you should probably stay natty lol. Or I could suggest a little creatine cycle
 
Cant remember exactly but I’ve read it can have a negative impact if you’re already running methyls or something like that but it’s also new to me that cardarine by itself would greatly impact liver.
 
jrock645 said:
Thats news to me. Where did you see that? Of the reasons to be scared of cardarine ive never seen liver damage mentioned in any discussion about it.
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Put "cardarine liver damage" into web search.
Scientific articles pop up.
 
Ill check at home because it won’t load on my cellphone.. pretty curious because I read a study earlier this month about its benefits on a liver under stress! 😯
 
Mathb33 said:
Ill check at home because it won’t load on my cellphone.. pretty curious because I read a study earlier this month about its benefits on a liver under stress! 😯
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Darn! It's my links bro.
Let me fix it.
 
Mathb33 said:
Ill check at home because it won’t load on my cellphone.. pretty curious because I read a study earlier this month about its benefits on a liver under stress! 😯
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Sorry about that. Try these:

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All that being said .... I'm not recommending not using Cardarine (necessarily). I just like to have... And like for everyone to have all of the available information.

(I do currently have a bottle of Cardarine).
 
Renew1 said:
All that being said .... I'm not recommending not using Cardarine (necessarily). I just like to have... And like for everyone to have all of the available information.

(I do currently have a bottle of Cardarine).
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I have like three bottles of cardarine. Each with 100 caps 10mg.

No brand. Capped by my “guy”
 
Epiandro, no pct needed.

5AT, no PCT needed.

ATD, no PCT needed

6oxo, no pct needed

Clomid, no pct needed
 
Even 11oxo or 11keto (depending on how high you dose it) run for less than 8 weeks would probably be fine with a test booster like Sup3r PCT as your PCT.
People used to run formestane solo with no PCT.
 
Anabaholic said:
Even 11oxo or 11keto (depending on how high you dose it) run for less than 8 weeks would probably be fine with a test booster like Sup3r PCT as your PCT.
People used to run formestane solo with no PCT.
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I miss Formestane.
 
Why no pct though? I mean... you wanna take drugs right? So what’s a couple more after the other ones are finished up?
 
SMS said:
wondering how long it took your "guy" to put accurately 10mg x cap to do 300caps
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Not sure what kind of question that is.....
But if course the answer is ... Exactly the length of time it took him.
 
Renew1 said:
Not sure what kind of question that is.....
But if course the answer is ... Exactly the length of time it took him.
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not sure what you are trying to say… trying to be funny maybe?

My question implicated the queston How did he managed to do 10mg count for each cap and fill it in (yeah ok, i get it, with weighing scale... sure, but for each cap?).

A cap filling instrument won´t allow this either, unless you do make mix with "bulking agents", But even then, a homogeneous mixture is imposible to verify? unless done analysis?,

so wondering if there was a trick for saving time, and make this possible without giving up accuracy (its ok +-1mg though), as i have raw of several things and wondering if take as they are, or take a few hours to cap them in.
 
Old Witch said:
Why no pct though? I mean... you wanna take drugs right? So what’s a couple more after the other ones are finished up?
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don´t know just guessing here,
probably because OP believes only way to do Pct is pinning? and wants to avoid this?

if not, i´m also wondering.
 
SMS said:
don´t know just guessing here,
probably because OP believes only way to do Pct is pinning? and wants to avoid this?

if not, i´m also wondering.
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What does pct have to do with pinning? Nothing in pct involves pinning.
 
SMS said:
not sure what you are trying to say… trying to be funny maybe?

My question implicated the queston How did he managed to do 10mg count for each cap and fill it in (yeah ok, i get it, with weighing scale... sure, but for each cap?).

A cap filling instrument won´t allow this either, unless you do make mix with "bulking agents", But even then, a homogeneous mixture is imposible to verify? unless done analysis?,

so wondering if there was a trick for saving time, and make this possible without giving up accuracy (its ok +-1mg though), as i have raw of several things and wondering if take as they are, or take a few hours to cap them in.
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Cap fillers are fast, dude. 300caps, maybe an hour? Half hour?
 
SMS said:
not sure what you are trying to say… trying to be funny maybe?

My question implicated the queston How did he managed to do 10mg count for each cap and fill it in (yeah ok, i get it, with weighing scale... sure, but for each cap?).

A cap filling instrument won´t allow this either, unless you do make mix with "bulking agents", But even then, a homogeneous mixture is imposible to verify? unless done analysis?,

so wondering if there was a trick for saving time, and make this possible without giving up accuracy (its ok +-1mg though), as i have raw of several things and wondering if take as they are, or take a few hours to cap them in.
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Honestly, your comment looked like a sarcastic remark about his "guy".

If it wasn't ...I apologize.
 
You can still find 11-Keto, should do well for you with a MILD pct. I may recommend sustain alpha as PCT

Old witch had some good thoughts above...you may he interested in running a stack of Invictus (5-AT/b-androstenetriol)..also use virtus
 
Old Witch said:
Cap fillers are fast, dude. 300caps, maybe an hour? Half hour?
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yeah that was my first question, implying another one: how to make sure you get 10mg x cap, with cap filler or without, whether it is with or without bulking agent?

but nevermind, just forget it. thanks

jrock645 said:
What does pct have to do with pinning? Nothing in pct involves pinning.
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why does it look like you guys are getting annoyed? my first was a honest question, the "guy" was to stand out as OW said his guy.. and on the second comment did i forget to mention it was a guess for OP?

As far as i remember 10-15 years ago looking into cycles people would not do, neither recommend anyone doing a PCT without HCG &/or hmg which i recall only way of using is pinning? (along with clomid and tamox, obviously), it was one of the reasons i never got into oral AAS.

I apologize if caused any misunderstanding and hassle. thanks
 
SMS said:
yeah that was my first question, implying another one: how to make sure you get 10mg x cap, with cap filler or without, whether it is with or without bulking agent?

but nevermind, just forget it. thanks

why does it look like you guys are getting annoyed? my first was a honest question, the "guy" was to stand out as OW said his guy.. and on the second comment did i forget to mention it was a guess for OP?

As far as i remember 10-15 years ago looking into cycles people would not do, neither recommend anyone doing a PCT without HCG &/or hmg which i recall only way of using is pinning? (along with clomid and tamox, obviously), it was one of the reasons i never got into oral AAS.

I apologize if caused any misunderstanding and hassle. thanks
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I’m not annoyed. Just trying to understand the question. Pct is nolva and or Clomid, and an AI. That’s all oral.
 
SMS said:
yeah that was my first question, implying another one: how to make sure you get 10mg x cap, with cap filler or without, whether it is with or without bulking agent?

but nevermind, just forget it. thanks

why does it look like you guys are getting annoyed? my first was a honest question, the "guy" was to stand out as OW said his guy.. and on the second comment did i forget to mention it was a guess for OP?

As far as i remember 10-15 years ago looking into cycles people would not do, neither recommend anyone doing a PCT without HCG &/or hmg which i recall only way of using is pinning? (along with clomid and tamox, obviously), it was one of the reasons i never got into oral AAS.

I apologize if caused any misunderstanding and hassle. thanks
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Well I suppose I could bring a few caps down to the college a block away and see what’s in them. Cardarine and rice flour I’m sure.

You make sure the doses are homogenous through the same means as any other measured capsule made anywhere else.
 
SMS said:
yeah that was my first question, implying another one: how to make sure you get 10mg x cap, with cap filler or without, whether it is with or without bulking agent?

but nevermind, just forget it. thanks

why does it look like you guys are getting annoyed? my first was a honest question, the "guy" was to stand out as OW said his guy.. and on the second comment did i forget to mention it was a guess for OP?

As far as i remember 10-15 years ago looking into cycles people would not do, neither recommend anyone doing a PCT without HCG &/or hmg which i recall only way of using is pinning? (along with clomid and tamox, obviously), it was one of the reasons i never got into oral AAS.

I apologize if caused any misunderstanding and hassle. thanks
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Brother, if I misunderstood your intent, I truly apologize. As far as I'm concerned (and most everyone here), any honest question is welcome.
 
Old Witch said:
Well I suppose I could bring a few caps down to the college a block away and see what’s in them. Cardarine and rice flour I’m sure.

You make sure the doses are homogenous through the same means as any other measured capsule made anywhere else.
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I hear cement mixers are popular for that purpose.
 
Renew1 said:
You know, I don't think I ever did (that I remember). That good, huh?

Thanks gentlemen.
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Virtus has been getting amazing feedback! There are some users who have posted bloodwork and we have quite a few logs on here.

Fresh batch was released at the end of last week ;)
 
ValiantThor08 said:
I second Virtus. Used both form and Virtus. Virtus is a great transdermal AI.
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I really loved formestane now virtus is my go-to for AI….on a side note when I ran 7,8 benzo as a solo it had a much milder AI effect but gave libido results very similar to formestane, and like form the higher I dosed the better the effect-up to a point of course.
 
BarryScott said:
I hear cement mixers are popular for that purpose.
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I mix my own caps occasionally in small batches. Psychotropics for personal use. A little virola, a little Caapi... it’s a party.

When I do, I mix it the same way I mix my gunpowder. With a sheet of paper.

I’m sure large batches use something much more sophist.
 
Wait for the new CEL Anabolic Effect to come out here soon and stack with SNS X gels. You’ll be good to go. Big times gains if you’re eating for your goals.
 
The Express 42 said:
Wait for the new CEL Anabolic Effect to come out here soon and stack with SNS X gels. You’ll be good to go. Big times gains if you’re eating for your goals.
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No offense, but I think this gentleman wishes to consume actual drugs.
 
johnny412 said:
you can still buy it
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From engaland.


Also, funny, if you look, according to... medical science, I guess... formestane isn’t orally active. Parenteral only.

Maybe that explains why ATD seemed to **** all over it. IMO.
 
Old Witch said:
From engaland.


Also, funny, if you look, according to... medical science, I guess... formestane isn’t orally active. Parenteral only.

Maybe that explains why ATD seemed to **** all over it. IMO.
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I’d always gotten the impression, just based on other people’s experience, that formestane had some anabolic effect. But I know atd absolutely demolishes estrogen, almost like a pharma grade ai. I only used atd in the small dosage that was in Reversitol. As a “natty” supp, I always liked 6-bromo myself.
 
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