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My NEW favorite pre workout mix

Dwight Schrute

Dwight Schrute

I am faster than 80% of all snakes
I have recently tried this and it is wokring VERY well. If you are concerned about taste, don't bother then. If not, give this a try.

Swole V2
Nitrojet
Go
CEE

What I do is have Swolev2 45 minutes w/ half serving GO and 1serv of CEE. Then 10 minutes before workout I mix Nitrojet, half serving GO, and then sip that throughout the workout. Post wokrout, one serving CEE.

I have been tinkering and trying this out for about 2 weeks and this the the best combo/timing that I have used. I suggest you try it if you have the cash.
 
ANd yes, Swolev2 worked better than V-12 with this combo. DOn't know why but it did.
 
What are you liking about that mix bobo... increased pumps, energy, strength, size? all of the above?
 
Spectre said:
I have some spare Satur8 lying around, so i'm gonna try that out. Also whats CEE?
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Creatine Ethyl Ester. You can get it from custom (link in my signature) and a few other places online.
 
Ahhh I was started to think that after I posted. VPX brain-washed me so I only recgonized CEX as CEE.
 
Trying a post workout option that will work accordingly with the pre-workout option. Did a boatload of reseach tonight and tihnk I found a nice combo that will work VERY well.
 
Looking forward to hearing what it is Bobo. I've been on this pre workout stack for 2 weeks now, and I'm definitely liking it so far. I also added Nitrous to the mix.
 
New formula is working nice. Anyone want to guess what nice little goodies have a synergistic effect with each other? :D
 
Bobo said:
New formula is working nice. Anyone want to guess what nice little goodies have a synergistic effect with each other? :D
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I don't feel like putting myself through the punishment if I guess wrong. ;)
 
hehehe.....come on!!!
 
I'll guess that CEE and CM have slightly different absorbtion rates providing for staggered release. Additionally the various arginine components will provide a nice conveyor belt of ATP precursors with the CEE and CM and provide a never-ending supply of intramuscular energy. Citrulline coupled with the vasodialating properties of Ag/citrulline et al provide for rapid shuttling of lactic acid out of the cell as well as a very pleasant reduction of aminia.

Sump'in like that anyway.

I was stacking CEE with NO-xplode and it was pretty sick. Got a little nutty and overtrained my shoulders..superman syndrome. lol
 
Not it ;)

Arginine has its benefits but there is one more amino other than ornithine that shows syngerstic qualities.

Although I am using this other amino, that is not the 2 that are working well together. DOMS is becoming non-existant.
 
Lysine is the other one that works synergistically with arginine. Now you have to guess the other two that work synergistically. ;)
 
Before I leave:

No-Explode/Di-arg Mal/Arginine/Lysine/CEE/Vendetta/HMB

45 minutes before workout: NO-Explode/CEE/Di-Arg Mal/HMB

During: Vendetta/Arg/Lysine

Post: NO-Explode/CEE/Di-Arg Mal/HMB

In morning: arginie/lysine/CEE/Di-Arg Mal

Before bed: Arginine/Lysine


Best combo I've used.


Only thing that can't be bought in bulk is No-Explode and Vendetta. Other than that, all can be found in bulk.
 
How much is that running you? I would do this, but it sounds complicated, and expensive.
 
I have some CEE and and Swole V2 left over which are both creatines i was wanting to see how they would stack with one of those arginine based muscle volumizers. I guess i'll go with diarginine malate and see.
 
ryansm said:
How much is that running you? I would do this, but it sounds complicated, and expensive.
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Its not that much actually since I get a lot of it in bulk. The arginine and lysine is nothing. The most expensive is the No-Explode and Vendetta. Everything else is bulk. The initial cost might be a lot but the bulk items will last you a while.
 
What sort of serving size are you taking for each supp?

Also, would there be a difference between vendetta and nitrojet + dextrose/ sucrose?
 
You could use Nitrojet but I like Vendetta because it also has 13g of protein per serving. But if you have Nitrojet, go for it.

Serving sizes are 3g of CEE, 2g arginine, 2g Lysione, 5g Di-Arg Malate, 3g HMB
 
I just found this on 1fast400:

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It's an already mixed CEE & Di-Arg Malate stack.
 
Bobo said:
You could use Nitrojet but I like Vendetta because it also has 13g of protein per serving. But if you have Nitrojet, go for it.

Serving sizes are 3g of CEE, 2g arginine, 2g Lysione, 5g Di-Arg Malate, 3g HMB
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I want to be sure I have my dosages right before I order... So you are saying for each serving you take 3g of Cee, 2g of arginine, etc... which amounts to 12g CEE, 8g arginine, 8g lysine, 20g Di-Arg malate, and 9g hmb per day?
 
Don't pay attention to those servings sizes. Thats what you should get at least per day, not what I use each time.

I get a total of 6g CEE, 6g HMB, 10g Di-Arg Malate, 5g arginie, 5g lysine...
 
Does anyone have anymore input on this stack? Maybe tried something similar with good results. This thread has peakd my interests. Just curious is all:head:
 
I've simplified it. Bulk CEE, AAKG, Lysine, HMB

Pre, during, post in equal doses. During will have aminos as well.
 
Crystal Light
 
Hey bobo, just curious. There is alot of "talk" about that stack you just posted and is basically the one i was looking at for pre and postworkout. What about to that adding:

1. DiArginine Malate
2. Citrulline Malate

Those 2 sound very promising. Thanks man
 
Saw no difference with the Diarginine vs. AAKG and IMO they are interchangeable.

CM is good mostly for endurance and was the least effective ingredient for bb'ing type purposes. It works though but at that point wasn't cost effective.
 
For actual muscle gains, yes. For asthetic appearnace while cutting it would certainly help you look more full.
 
Thanks bobo. Very informative and helpful. If u were to stack the following:

CEE/AAKG/lysine/HMB

1. What would your dosages be exactly for your pre, post, during workout?

Maybe this:

CEE - 2g
HMB - 2g
AAKG - 3g
lysine - 2g

take these amount for pre,post, during workout.

thanks again. much appreciated
 
Bobo said:
Saw no difference with the Diarginine vs. AAKG and IMO they are interchangeable.

CM is good mostly for endurance and was the least effective ingredient for bb'ing type purposes. It works though but at that point wasn't cost effective.
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Totally agree. I switched di-arg and AAKG back and forth a few times and there really isn't much difference. Both are good.
 
msucurt said:
Thanks bobo. Very informative and helpful. If u were to stack the following:

CEE/AAKG/lysine/HMB

1. What would your dosages be exactly for your pre, post, during workout?

Maybe this:

CEE - 2g
HMB - 2g
AAKG - 3g
lysine - 2g

take these amount for pre,post, during workout.

thanks again. much appreciated
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You can drop the lysine to 1g each time. Thats plenty.
 
I actually did a ton of research on HMB, and just couldnt find alot of backed up research and other people's results for the usage of HMB. It seems to be a hit and miss kind of supplement. Some say is worthless, some say is pretty decent when cutting to retain muscle. So, i decided on this stack instead:

CEE/CM/AAKG/LYSINE
2g 3g 3g 1g

all these dosages will be taken pre,post, and during.

any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.

note: i may run to the store and pick up some HMB if i can find it, just to see , but not sure yet....still reading. Bobo/others... any comments?

thanks
msucurt
 
HMB for actually building mucle mass isn't what its hyped to be by those that sell it but it severely cuts down on protein degredation and catabolic activity. This is one of the main aspect how insulin supports muscle growth (inhibiting protein breakdown)

To make it worth it, buy in bulk and be prepared because it tastes like swamp foot.
 
Wow, i just read basically the same thing after looking even more. I think ill pick some up today or just order some from a board sponsor:hammer:

New revised natural stack:

CEE/HMB/CM/AAKG/LYSINE.

CEE = 2G
HMB = 2G
CM = 3G
AAKG = 3G
LYSINE = 1G

all comments are welcomed. Thanks
 
UPS dropped off some bulk powders last night :) Before my workout this morning(biceps) I just threw the powders in my mouth and swished them down so I figured Bobo's Pimp Juice was gonna taste aweful, he did say it could be like swamp foot, lol. So I put the powders in a water bottle, added 16oz water and two 8oz crystal light limonade packets, shook it up and was suprised that it really didn't taste bad at all. I really thought the BCAA's would ruin it too cuz of the smell they put out. I definitely got a wicked awesome pump in my forearms today :twisted:
-Chris
 
Yea, im going with the CEE/C-malate/AAKG/lysine and also drinking BCAA during workouts.

What dosages are you going with and what/how are u mixing these or do you just shoot them in the mouth and a big drink ...swallow....just curious

u like the stack so far??
 
before and after workout, I just throw the powder in my mouth, add water, swish, and swallow.

I'm using 2g CEE, 3g AAKG, 2g HMB, 1.5g lysine before, during, and after so the above x3.

I'm using a teaspoon of BCAA's which I think is around 2g, I think that was the right amount for a serving but I may be wrong.

I've only used it once so I can't comment too much yet but I got a nice pump out of it
 
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