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My 1st Dance with pSARM

EasyEJL said:
those were placebo reps I think ;) i'm completely torn now as to exactly what to use during my first month of post cycle therapy. x-factor i know for sure, the other options are

  • basically nothing else - creatine, etc, staples
  • phytotest
  • psarm
  • hemodraulix
  • forslean

after the month of post cycle therapy i'm doing drive + IGF-2. I might start the IGF 2 the first month, still not sure on that.
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Yea your probably right,lol. Man thats a tough call. I'd drop hemodraulix outta the mix, it an X-Factor type product right?
 
EasyEJL said:
those were placebo reps I think ;) i'm completely torn now as to exactly what to use during my first month of post cycle therapy. x-factor i know for sure, the other options are

  • basically nothing else - creatine, etc, staples
  • phytotest
  • psarm
  • hemodraulix
  • forslean

after the month of post cycle therapy i'm doing drive + IGF-2. I might start the IGF 2 the first month, still not sure on that.
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Phytotest looks interesting.
 
well, its more an NO/pump product that uses arachidonic acid to enhance the NO action. so far initial feedback is pretty solid. I just don't want to take anything that first month that raises test, odd as that sounds. I want to rely 100% on the dermacrine sustain alpha and toco 8, and see how it works, since I have pre blood tests and will get post pct again.
 
oh i'm only going to do one of those above choices, just not sure which one. they all are intriguing, even just doing basics.
 
EasyEJL said:
oh i'm only going to do one of those above choices, just not sure which one. they all are intriguing, even just doing basics.
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stick with the basics. you have your diet and everything worked out already. no reason why you'd lose any strength or lbm gains you've made during your cycle.
 
ok then

Whatever happened to the pSarm log I subbed to?

My first cycle was M1-D and liquid mast. I lost 15 lbs of fat, put on 10 lbs of muscle in 6 weeks. it worked for me. BUT - i am 40 year old. I had my test checked before I started -it was 240. At the 4th week I had it checked and it was 760!!

That makes a big difference. That was august last year. I'm still 187, 10% body fat. It was a great first cycle. I think it works best for people who are more/or less adrenally bombarded.
 
matthew76 said:
My pSARM just arrived - The T-Shirt that was added is pretty sweet!

Log will start in the next day or so...
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I'll be interested to hear your thoughts since you are always the one to chime in on LG threads to say their products are junk and to not waste your money.
 
My problem was with something else, but since LG has become sponsors here - The "problems" that I had were addressed. My feelings on some the products write ups are well documented, as you know, but I'm going to try and live and learn, move on, and give people a second chance. But make no mistakes about it, the truth is the only thing that I will log, nothing else. There are too many other people that hype companies products up just to say that people listen to them because the seem to think that their "E-persona's" are respectful.

/rant over.

pSARM has had my attention since I saw a tease for it. So I'm looking forward to logging it.

But let us leave the past where it is, in the past.

The supplement business is different then what it was years back. Companies like AX and LG, that lived for putting out hardcore hormones, must now follow the rules, and in doing so, are coming up with some of the most innovative supplements out. So you must respect their willingness to stay in the game, and make new waves for the future.

Anyway - I'm out.

joebo said:
I'll be interested to hear your thoughts since you are always the one to chime in on LG threads to say their products are junk and to not waste your money.
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I think the main issue is that LG came in with a black eye. For the most part, what the reputable people on this site suggest is what I take into consideration and at most i'm still skeptical about some products. I think I speak for many many more with this, but it seems that LG are the only ones suggesting their own products as where other companies on here are not necessarily doing that for themselves as much as others that have had good experiences and breakdown the ingredients and such. DHEA, sell it how you will i'm not dishing that much cash out for it with some Yohimbe/ yohimbine.
 
eatingisfun said:
You're talking about a stimulant which is one thing that you can notice right away. Yohimbine and caffeine and ephedrine would all be felt right away(depending on dose) because they're CNS stimulants. I don't see that there are any stimulants in pSARM but if there are then that's likely what you would have felt. The SARM effects would not be noticeable on the first dose is what I'm getting at.

Also, I'm not saying there aren't things you can't feel in one dose such as ibuprofen for your headache etc. Yes of course some things work like that right away but something of this nature being an anabolic you're not going to notice strength increases(or huge endurance) on one dose. For example we all know beta alanine can increase your endurance significantly but it takes time to start working.
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His results could be part of the stimulant effect of Yohimbine! Maybe he reacts strongly to it's effects! Never did he say he grew an inch on his arms, or that he put on 20 lbs to his lifts allready! THOSE would be the anobolic effects, and YES those do take time! Ease up, give him a break, and just follow the damn log and make a decision to call him out after that, if the results don't add up!
 
EasyEJL said:
Just thinking about this, though sure you wouldn't see weight or strength gains first dose, you don't think first dose of a short ester or test base suspension gives you some level of aggression + focus change from the first dose? Not having done it, I can't say from experience, but i'd have to think that it would.
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Yes they can EJ. Cheque Drops provide much agression with a single dose! I've never taken them, but ask the boxers, power lifters, etc., that have taken them prior to an event, because it makes them SUPER agressive. So you are definitely correct!
 
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