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What device do you use to measure body fat? I need a better model of home scale... looking for more recommendations
 
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Omron makes a handheld one. Best is skinfold calipers, just have to learn how to use them and have someone else to do it.
 
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What device do you use to measure body fat? I need a better model of home scale...
Skinfold calipers. Readings taken next to belly button, lower chest and thigh
 
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Do you measure nibbles' macros? Curious how he's eating because the body fat is just melting off!
 
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Do you measure nibbles' macros? Curious how he's eating because the body fat is just melting off!
3-500 below maintenance. Under 100 grams of carbs per day.
 
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Do you measure nibbles' macros? Curious how he's eating because the body fat is just melting off!
3-500 below maintenance. Under 100 grams of carbs per day.
Thanks for the notes! Under 100g carbs sounds tough but doable. Standing by for more log posts!
 
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Do you measure nibbles' macros? Curious how he's eating because the body fat is just melting off!

Thanks for the notes! Under 100g carbs sounds tough but doable. Standing by for more log posts!
Ha, Im at about 20 right now...
 
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I decided to drop nibbles’ dose back down to 16mg a day. Even though he is just a damn dirty ape I like to see him with an appetite. Plus he was reaching his goal faster than expected at 16mg a day.

I’m guessing the low carb diet along with the relatively high AAS dose is the culprit. On high carb days he appeared to have little side effects but on 30-60g carbs a day he already doesn’t feel great to begin with.
 
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Nibbles is on the right track! Gonna be shredded soon and pullin some Orangapoontang.
 
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Lmao
 
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Yeah definitely GTG. Monkey feeling I’ll the last couple days but gains won’t stop
 
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Research was cut short. Nibbles is under a lot of pressure to perform at full capacity in more important areas of life. The lack of appetite/ nourishment is too much at this time.

Overview:
Astonishing body recomposition at only 16mg a day
Most potent oral I’ve researched as far as fat loss, pumps and LBM gains.
Nibbles Put on several pounds of LBM and lost several LBS of body fat.
Extremely fast acting.
 
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Research was cut short. Nibbles is under a lot of pressure to perform at full capacity in more important areas of life. The lack of appetite/ nourishment is too much at this time.

Overview:
Astonishing body recomposition at only 16mg a day
Most potent oral I’ve researched as far as fat loss, pumps and LBM gains.
Nibbles Put on several pounds of LBM and lost several LBS of body fat.
Extremely fast acting.
Just for future research: at what point did appetite suppression start and how long did monkey make it in total?
 
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I never have a problem eating... usually the problem is eating too much and getting fat. Gotta be rough when food ends an otherwise steller cycle.

You couldn't give the chimp a snickers bars and have him throw that Samsonite luggage around a couple more weeks?
 
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Just for future research: at what point did appetite suppression start and how long did monkey make it in total?
Appetite Suppression got bad around the 2 week mark when dose was bumped up to 24mg/day. When dosage was decreased back down to 16mg/ day appetite came back but then got progressively worse. On the last day of the cycle nibbles would take one bite of food and be done eating.

I think the experiment was about 4 weeks. A little longer. It’s hard to believe such a transformation came in only a month. Very powerful stuff. Next time I research msten maybe during the summer I will give nibbles more support supps.
 
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I’ve never researched superdrol but I can’t imagine it being much stronger than MSTEN. Blown away
 
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Sorry but nibbles gets mad when I try to take pictures of him. Scared he might bite my face off or something
 
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I’ve never researched superdrol but I can’t imagine it being much stronger than MSTEN. Blown away
It actually is.
10mg SD = 20mg Msten
I’ll argue that one to the death.
However, Msten is 10,000x more comfortable even if you just considered back pumps and appetite suppression and nothing else.
Lethargy is on another level.
Blood pressure does suck ass on both.
I already have 500mg of SD for upcoming Mr. Peepers experiment but I’m thinking I may just drop a hundred bucks and administer Msten instead.
It’s the humane route for damn near the same results.
 
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I'm on day 4 of 20mg a day and Im hungrier than ever. I recently switched my mk677 supplier though so I guess I could attribute it to that as well.
 
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I'm on day 4 of 20mg a day and Im hungrier than ever. I recently switched my mk677 supplier though so I guess I could attribute it to that as well.
I’ve noticed over my years of monkeys eating Methyls, age seems to factor in. SD could be taken in at 30/day and 5 chipotle runs could happen for 30 days back in my 20s.
After the age of 35, as soon as dose goes over 10mg, appetite destroyed.
 
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I’ve noticed over my years of monkeys eating Methyls, age seems to factor in. SD could be taken in at 30/day and 5 chipotle runs could happen for 30 days back in my 20s.
After the age of 35, as soon as dose goes over 10mg, appetite destroyed.
Yeah usually sign or liver getting stressed more easily after years of hard work!
 
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I’m on 30 mg a day (logging it) with DMZ and after just a week I can feel the hunger pangs not being as strong. Have to force myself to eat.
Damn 30mg stacked with dmz? Thats a heavy hitter stack
 
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Damn 30mg stacked with dmz? Thats a heavy hitter stack
That’s one of the impressive things about SuperDmz 2.0. At 20/20 the gains were impressive and I didn’t ever feel the need to push dosage. Definitely couldn’t push the Msten but on workout days I could put another 15mg DMZ on board. And 30 days went by with impressive gains and no appetite issues.
Love that stack, other than a lot of irritability and BP issues, no real sides at 20 of Msten.
 
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That’s one of the impressive things about SuperDmz 2.0. At 20/20 the gains were impressive and I didn’t ever feel the need to push dosage. Definitely couldn’t push the Msten but on workout days I could put another 15mg DMZ on board. And 30 days went by with impressive gains and no appetite issues.
Love that stack, other than a lot of irritability and BP issues, no real sides at 20 of Msten.
This is my second time running it, first time I did 20/20/30/30 and saw 15 lbs (kept). I’m doing 30 for 6 weeks this go around assuming allergies don’t kill me first. I love this stuff. I think the monkey needs to try it out next time.
 
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This log we are in right now is pretty much a short msten cycle
Yes this is why I’ve followed closely. Sdmz 2.0 is so much more common than solo Msten runs although there’s plenty out there.

I always suspected Msten did way more of the heavy lifting than Dmz on my few runs of it. Especially at that dose.
 
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Yes this is why I’ve followed closely. Sdmz 2.0 is so much more common than solo Msten runs although there’s plenty out there.

I always suspected Msten did way more of the heavy lifting than Dmz on my few runs of it. Especially at that dose.
For sure I can’t agree more, the two have great synergy together though.

Question: what’s the monkey testing next? Are we allowed to offer input or does he pick and choose on his own? I don’t want to make him mad, especially if he got bigger.
 
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For sure I can’t agree more, the two have great synergy together though.

Question: what’s the monkey testing next? Are we allowed to offer input or does he pick and choose on his own? I don’t want to make him mad, especially if he got bigger.
He loves his monkey dearly. So I’ve noticed over the years that he prefers to administer compounds with a favorable side effects vs results ratio.
Hence no SD, because it’s toxic death, however awesome may be.

Maybe he’s open to suggestions for the Nibsster.
 
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For sure I can’t agree more, the two have great synergy together though.

Question: what’s the monkey testing next? Are we allowed to offer input or does he pick and choose on his own? I don’t want to make him mad, especially if he got bigger.
I think he mentioned hopping on some Var after the MSten. Nice log RB, just made i in but finished it up. You sound a lot like me when it comes to sides, and choosing comfort over results so long as results are still good.

I have some MSten at the house I plan to use for my next run and will probably keep my dose pretty low going off of your results and experience. I think my caps are 10mg so probably a 20mg a day run.
 
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I think he mentioned hopping on some Var after the MSten. Nice log RB, just made i in but finished it up. You sound a lot like me when it comes to sides, and choosing comfort over results so long as results are still good.

I have some MSten at the house I plan to use for my next run and will probably keep my dose pretty low going off of your results and experience. I think my caps are 10mg so probably a 20mg a day run.
Seems like 15-20 you can always get away totally unscathed. I’m psyched to run it solo.
 
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Msten is my favorite compound to run solo. Hands down. Never stacked it thought so curious how it’s gonna go next time 16-24mgs cycles are sweet as hell 30mg gets nasty a bit
 
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For sure I can’t agree more, the two have great synergy together though.

Question: what’s the monkey testing next? Are we allowed to offer input or does he pick and choose on his own? I don’t want to make him mad, especially if he got bigger.
Lol 😂😂😂 he’s definitely bigger. Although He’s a lover not a fighter.
Anavar, trest and primo will be researched next. Why? What is your recommendation?
 
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I’m telling you, msten is the shit when it comes to orals. Really wish it didn’t affect nibbles’ appetite because the results at 6 weeks would have been EPIC. And I don’t throw that term around lightly
 
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How long until you get on that cycle? You’re on trt right?
Trt yes. Within the next month, I have enough var for a 7 week 50 mg cycle, just need to source the trest and primo. Got a place in mind, the primo mo was 3rd party tested, 100mg/ ml and it tested at 150mg/ ml. They have trest too
 
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Just curious Ricky, I know you love anavar.. what dosage do you usually run it at? I know you just mentioned 50 mgs but is it just because you’re short on it or you’re always going for that dosage?
 

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