MSTEN 4 week blast

[RickyBlobby]

Researching PRE’s msten product. I will be using my typical chimpanzee test subject to administer the compound to. I have done many experiments on this particular primate so I should have a good idea of its effectiveness.

Thanks to PRE for sponsoring my research. I plan on reporting all the good, the bad and the ugly.

 

[Karlrobert]

Subbed

 

[Whisky]

Is PRE’s stuff not approved for animal testing.....? Was kinda hoping for some jacked monkey action (sounds wrong when I read it back).

Either way I’m in, will be running msten on myself (legally - I’m uk lol) in a few months

 

[bigbeaph]

Was kinda hoping for some jacked monkey action

I hear ya bro

 

[jrock645]

Gonna follow along.

 

[Mathb33]

I’m in!

 

[RickyBlobby]

Is PRE’s stuff not approved for animal testing.....? Was kinda hoping for some jacked monkey action (sounds wrong when I read it back).

Either way I’m in, will be running msten on myself (legally - I’m uk lol) in a few months

Primate research will be conducted in lieu of cell cultures.
More updates to come later. Today is day 1 of my research.

 

[bigbeaph]

No, not approved for animal testing. HOWEVER, I have devised formulae that should be extremely accurate at cross referencing what the effects on my Petri dish cultures would equate to in a human being. I have a feeling my cultures will be quite “jacked”.

More updates to come later. Today is day 1 of my research.

Can you guess the human equivalent dose that your starting the cultures out at?

 

[blongo804]

In on this!

 

[RickyBlobby]

Can you guess the human equivalent dose that your starting the cultures out at?

It has been decided that my normal test subject nibbles the chimpanzee will be my research subject. He has received various anabolic compounds since acquired so it should be easy to discern the results of this experiment against other compounds.

He will receive a human equivalent dose of 100mg a week of testosterone cympionate and a 16 mg dose of Methylstenbolone for the first two weeks of the experiment to judge the efficiacy if this dose, at which point the dosage will be increased to 24mg per day for the remainder of the experiment. A total of almost 5 weeks by my calculations.

He will receive a high protein medium carb and fat diet of days where resistance training is utilized and a high protein low carb and fat intermittent fasting type diet on off days where cardio will be utilized.
The purpose of this experiment will to simultaneously reduce body fat and increase lean mass.

 

[RickyBlobby]

Nibbles stats day 1: 211lb 18%BF 173lb LBM

 

[lilbigman15]

inb4 gainz

 

[RickyBlobby]

Nibbles already appears to have difficulty scratching his shoulders after resistance training. He is receiving what us humans refer to as “enhances pumps”

Other than that the effects of the compound have not become evident. Other than using his sign language to communicate that he would like to squeeze in another exercise or 2 while at the gym. I’m really surprised to see even these minor changes this early in the experiment.

 

[enhanced]

Nibbles is gonna be ready for beach season!!

 

[RickyBlobby]

Nibbles is gonna be ready for beach season!!

Yes with nibbles physique he looks quite good at 12% BF and a moderate amount of muscle. 10 weeks to lose 12lbs of fat without losing muscle should be easily attainable. Hoping this experiment will get him down to 14-15% while maintaining or adding LBM. I’ve always heard excellent things about this compound so I’m excited to see the final result.

 

[RickyBlobby]

I’ll try to report back with changes to BF% and LBM weekly. Nibbles doesn’t like getting on the scale every day

 

[Mathb33]

I think msten will serve you very well for your goals bro. My fav compound for that. Add anavar to that and damnnnnn

 

[RickyBlobby]

I think msten will serve you very well for your goals bro. My fav compound for that. Add anavar to that and damnnnnn

Oh yeah I’ve got a big bottle of var waiting once this experiment is over

 

[RickyBlobby]

Nibbles is already looking better in the mirror. This stuff works fast.

He has been in a pretty big deficit the past few days, and last night he ate 2 Choco chip cookies and a couple handfuls of chips; woke up this morning leaner looking than he has in months.

No negatives to report.. Yet

 

[RickyBlobby]

Nibbles stats day 1: 211lb 18%BF 173lb LBM

Day 7: 208lb 16%BF 174.7lb LBM

Dosing is still msten 8mg 2x a day and 100mg/ week test cyp

500cal deficit average and rest pause training 4x a week with sporadic cardio when he feels inclined.

Nibbles only complaint is signing to me that he experiences minor heartburn from time to time

 

[Matthersby]

Day 7: 208lb 16%BF 174.7lb LBM

Dosing is still msten 8mg 2x a day and 100mg/ week test cyp

500cal deficit average and rest pause training 4x a week with sporadic cardio when he feels inclined.

Nibbles only complaint is signing to me that he experiences minor heartburn from time to time

Love Msten. BP, facial flushing, and heartburn, that’s kind of it. It’s like a slightly weaker SD where you get to keep your appetite.

 

[RickyBlobby]

Love Msten. BP, facial flushing, and heartburn, that’s kind of it. It’s like a slightly weaker SD where you get to keep your appetite.

I am quite surprised at how effective this compound has been at only 16mg/ day. Nibbles is looking leaner AND fuller by the day. His strength is also improving very noticeably. He appears to be having some lethargy and random minor heartburn but based on the results thus far I would say that this has the potential to be his favorite oral. Especially once dosage is increased from 16mg/day to 24mg/ day. We shall see.

 

[ChocolateClen]

Sub a dub dubbed

I ran this stuff back at 40mg a day when it was legal a few years back. Oh my god it was awesome. Didn’t feel great though but the gains were crazy.

 

[RickyBlobby]

Yeah 40mg is crazy high unless you are like 250 and peeled

 

[ChocolateClen]

Yeah 40mg is crazy high unless you are like 250 and peeled

Yeah it was lumped in with 10mg of DMZ (BSL super dmz 2.0) so I had to kinda find a middle ground between the two. Not sure why I picked 40 over 30, but I packed on 25 lbs on like 5 weeks before I started to feel real ****ty and stopped early.

Edit: I know why I went up to 40, cause I was stupid and didn’t think about more than getting big back then. Maturity wasn’t the highest you could say.

 

[Matthersby]

Yeah it was lumped in with 10mg of DMZ (BSL super dmz 2.0) so I had to kinda find a middle ground between the two. Not sure why I picked 40 over 30, but I packed on 25 lbs on like 5 weeks before I started to feel real ****ty and stopped early.

Edit: I know why I went up to 40, cause I was stupid and didn’t think about more than getting big back then. Maturity wasn’t the highest you could say.

20/20 is totally manageable. I think you could even bump to 30/30 on training days and still get 15+ lbs on a 30 day run without feeling like death. Other than SD, it’s the only designer I always want to keep around on the back burner, with the more esteemed black market-only orals.

This thread is making me buy some Msten this week...

 

[RickyBlobby]

mod edit: nope

 

[RickyBlobby]

Added NAC at 600mg 2x daily to stack. Nibbles appears to be side effect free and even feeling better than normal after the addition of NAC.

 

[RickyBlobby]

Weigh in later today. Diet had not been super clean the past week but nibbles did cram in a good bit more cals than the first week. He is looking pretty jacked and he seems to have a bit more swagger as of late; he seems to feel stronger and more confident.

Again, the NAC seems to have totally wiped out the side effects he was experiencing. Awesome stuff.

 

[RickyBlobby]

Day 1: 211lb 18%BF 173lb LBM

Day 7: 208lb 16%BF 174.7lb LBM

Day 14 210lb 15.5%bf 178.5lb LBM

 

[RickyBlobby]

Starting tomorrow nibbles will get 24mg of MSTEN daily

 

[ChocolateClen]

Nice looks like it’s working

 

[Karlrobert]

Looks like things are going great for you. Wondering about the timing on your NAC doses? I’ve read conflicting opinions on when to dose it. Also thanks for updating basic stats with the previous ones. Saves scrolling... lol

 

[RickyBlobby]

Yeah this stuff works fast. Impressed so far with nibbles progress

 

[RickyBlobby]

Looks like things are going great for you. Wondering about the timing on your NAC doses? I’ve read conflicting opinions on when to dose it. Also thanks for updating basic stats with the previous ones. Saves scrolling... lol

Hey man. I have been administering the NAC and MSTEN at the same time. 1 8mg MSTEN and 1 600mg NAC with meal 1 and 1hr pre training

 

[Karlrobert]

Ok, thanks. Sounds like it’s working well for Nibbles and easier to remember that way

 

[Matthersby]

Hey man. I have been administering the NAC and MSTEN at the same time. 1 8mg MSTEN and 1 600mg NAC with meal 1 and 1hr pre training

Has Nibbles tolerated it well enough that you’d see the benefit of administering a second compound, such as another DHT at a comparable dose? Curious if it isn’t necessary to stack or if it pulls most the weight of a stack. I’ve been toying around with using it solo in my research and not with its usual partner compound DMZ

 

[RickyBlobby]

So far composition changes have been awesome. Sides appear nonexistent at this point so I feel as though another compound could be added, but honestly I think anything else would be overkill and am happy with the sides to results ratio nibbles is experiencing

 

[RickyBlobby]

Test subject has been showing signs of reduced appetite at 24mg/ day. He feels fine until he starts eating, at which point nausea appears to show up resulting in less than normal food consumption and the inability to finish normal sized meals.

This side effect is not completely unwelcome as the purpose of this experiment is to cut/ recomp.

This appears to be the only side effect the test subject is experiencing.... he had a cheat day this past weekend and it appears all of the extra carbohydrates made their way into the muscle tissue as glycogen storage. Little to no bloating of the midsection and woke up looking leaner than in a depleted state. All rows of abs were visible this morning whereas 3 weeks ago and were covered in a layer of fat. This compound appears to have very good nutrient partitioning effects.

 

[GrizzleB]

Good stuff man!

 

[Chados]

Love msten, its weird as it can kinda bloat you while at the same time lean you out.

 

[RickyBlobby]

Yeah when nibbles is on low carbs for a couple days his stomach is actually flat. A FAR cry from 3 weeks ago when he looked chubby and out of shape.

 

[blongo804]

Loving the info on this experiment with nibbles. Thinking my next experiment will be trest ace + msten for a sick/hopeful recomp on my lab lizard.

 

[RickyBlobby]

Nibbles is blown away at how potent MSTEN is and how fast it kicks in

 

[Matthersby]

Nibbles is blown away at how potent MSTEN is and how fast it kicks in

From your experience with Nibbles, has any oral aas ever been as potent? How much stronger is it standalone than say Tbol?

 

[RickyBlobby]

From your experience with Nibbles, has any oral aas ever been as potent? How much stronger is it standalone than say Tbol?

24mg msten appears significantly stronger than 50mg of hubei tbol and kicks in way faster

Changes to physique and pumps are the best I’ve seen seen during my research. I have never researched SD however. Strength not quite on par with anavar IME.

 

[Matthersby]

24mg msten appears significantly stronger than 50mg of hubei tbol and kicks in way faster

Changes to physique and pumps are the best I’ve seen seen during my research. I have never researched SD however. Strength not quite on par with anavar IME.

good stuff, great research RB

 

[RickyBlobby]

Day 1: 211lb 18%bf 173lb lbm
Day 7: 208lb 16%bf 174.7lb lbm
Day 14: 210lb 15.5%bf 178.5lb lbm
Day 21: 212lb 15%bf 180.2lb lbm

 

[RickyBlobby]

It appears gains at 24mg a day are not significantly better than 16mg/ day. However side effects such as reduced appetite are much more prevalent at this dosage. Diet was admittedly a little looser this past week but with 1.5x the compound you would expect to have seen more regardless.

Nibbles will finish his run at 24mg a day while I tweak his diet (cut more carbs, add more protein)

 

[BamBam54]

What device do you use to measure body fat? I need a better model of home scale...