epstaneman
Banned
I get my Hawthorn Berry at my local vitamin shop for just 5 bucks. The "NOW" brand is the cheapest. Usually is. Either the case you can buy either one. Higher the mg the less pills you have to pop.
Most Detailed Epistane Log -SH*T JUST GOT REAL!
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epstaneman
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DAY 8
Had a killer workout today. Was frustrated with a couple things and just took it out on the weights. I don't know if it's because my strength is increasing or just from being in a pissed off mood....but all my lifts went up 20lbs with same reps or almost double. Got back and biceps tomorrow.
Still excited and waiting for something 'note worthy' to happen during the cycle. Also looking forward to what changes I'm going to see visually with the calorie increase. Tired as fu*k now. Had a flush of warmness and nauseousness hit me. Woke up late today so my dosing was thrown off....was that why? Who really knows. How is a rainbow made? How exactly does a positractor on a plymouth work? I suppose it just --does.
Speaking of plymouth....isn't this baby something beautiful too look at?
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How bout that A*S!
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Had a killer workout today. Was frustrated with a couple things and just took it out on the weights. I don't know if it's because my strength is increasing or just from being in a pissed off mood....but all my lifts went up 20lbs with same reps or almost double. Got back and biceps tomorrow.
Still excited and waiting for something 'note worthy' to happen during the cycle. Also looking forward to what changes I'm going to see visually with the calorie increase. Tired as fu*k now. Had a flush of warmness and nauseousness hit me. Woke up late today so my dosing was thrown off....was that why? Who really knows. How is a rainbow made? How exactly does a positractor on a plymouth work? I suppose it just --does.
Speaking of plymouth....isn't this baby something beautiful too look at?
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How bout that A*S!
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epstaneman
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I don't really wake up hungry unless I eat right before I go to bed. I wake up and take my first dose of epi on an empty stomach with my taurine. Then I hit the gym a lil while later. It's not that I do this intentionally.....it's just that I have no time in the morning to eat....and if I did eat...I'd probably eat a big a*s meal that would keep me from lifting as heavy. Soon as I'm done with my workout I have a protein drink on my way home. Then I shower and am having my post workout meal about 45minutes later after the gym.
epstaneman
Banned
I don't EVER smoke before I hit the gym. Weed makes me too lazy. And most the time pretty stupid. Gatta have my head right when I hit the gym so I never toke up till I'm done my training that day.
Oat meals good. Don't know how anal you are with your breakfast, but a whey protein shake will be well absorbed at this time too.
epstaneman
Banned
Welcome to my log. So far it's pretty dull ....but I gatta stfu and be patient till week 3. Expecting it to be 'noticeable' by at LEAST the end of week 3. Till then you can read me babble about useless information and poorly attempt to have a personality.
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gainz GAINZ GAINZ
greg_the_ripp
New member
how many cals are you eating?
epstaneman
Banned
Week 1 I was in a caloric deficit eating at 2,000 cals. This week I'm eating 2,500 - 3,000 cals depending if its a workout day or rest day. My maintenance is about 2,300 depending on how I'm training at the time.
epstaneman
Banned
Nope...I eat pretty clean. Even when I have something dirty like I did when I ate the bbq...I only jumped up a few pounds in water weight. It's not bloat though. It's just simply glycogen stores increasing and comes with any high sodium filled meal. The epi its self is not making me bloat. This compound does not convert to estrogen so you will not experience any water retention. If your bloated like a mofo while taking this compound, then your just plain eating like a fat fu*k. Put down the ho ho's and everything should be cool.
epstaneman
Banned
DAY 9:
Back and biceps day. Had a good workout. The only thing that went through my mind was "did I hit my back well." Last back workout I didn't feel as quite swore as my other body parts/workouts. A shame too because I would like to take advantage of this cycle to really add thickness and width to my back. I dropped the weights to focus more on form. Pausing and squeezing with every rep. Also added more exercises/sets to my workout in hopes I tax the muscle 100% As if 14 sets for back wasn't enough....I did an extra 3 exercises and a total of 8 extra sets.
Nothing much to say guys. I know....It's gay. Well on a plus note no negative sides so can't complain.
Most logs I've read it hits full on at the end of week 3...but I've also read people feel something as early as day 10. Tomorrow here we come.....
Back and biceps day. Had a good workout. The only thing that went through my mind was "did I hit my back well." Last back workout I didn't feel as quite swore as my other body parts/workouts. A shame too because I would like to take advantage of this cycle to really add thickness and width to my back. I dropped the weights to focus more on form. Pausing and squeezing with every rep. Also added more exercises/sets to my workout in hopes I tax the muscle 100% As if 14 sets for back wasn't enough....I did an extra 3 exercises and a total of 8 extra sets.
Nothing much to say guys. I know....It's gay. Well on a plus note no negative sides so can't complain.
Most logs I've read it hits full on at the end of week 3...but I've also read people feel something as early as day 10. Tomorrow here we come.....
epstaneman
Banned
Sounds like me in bed. Then when it happens my chick is all like "WHY'D YOU STOP!?" Because bi*ch....it was coming hard and subtle the whole time...something was BOUND to pop off. ha ha
Thanx man. This being patient thing sucks but it is what it is. Just keeping quite and waiting patiently for the beast to come alive.
loafy777
New member
Looking forward to the progress/updates.
I'm thinking of running my first cycle of epistane so definitely keep the details coming... apparently unlike your sexual prowess, or so you said. Just messing with you. Seems like the log should be packed with good info. Thanks for posting it up.
I'm thinking of running my first cycle of epistane so definitely keep the details coming... apparently unlike your sexual prowess, or so you said. Just messing with you. Seems like the log should be packed with good info. Thanks for posting it up.
epstaneman
Banned
DAY 10:
Not much to report as today was a rest day. Just hit some abs and that was it. One thing I will say is H.E.B. had a sale on their weight watchers chocolate ice cream bars. Just 1$ a box. Pretty high in carbs, but while on a bulk, I will say for just 100 calories....it tastes FUC*ING AWESOME! It was a okay substitute for my usual bryers carb smart bars. Basically less healthy but much more great tasting.
My back is swore as hell so I KNOW I killed it on back day. Gonna make all kinds of gains during this bulk.....ALL KINDZ!!!!
Not much to report as today was a rest day. Just hit some abs and that was it. One thing I will say is H.E.B. had a sale on their weight watchers chocolate ice cream bars. Just 1$ a box. Pretty high in carbs, but while on a bulk, I will say for just 100 calories....it tastes FUC*ING AWESOME! It was a okay substitute for my usual bryers carb smart bars. Basically less healthy but much more great tasting.
My back is swore as hell so I KNOW I killed it on back day. Gonna make all kinds of gains during this bulk.....ALL KINDZ!!!!
loafy777
New member
In the most no-homo way possible, love those guys. I have brothers who are twins; also named Keith and Kevin.
STLJones
New member
Man all I have to say is you are going to have a HEYDAY when you reach week 3!!!
I just hit week 3 and at about day 13... Jesus, you feel like a monster in the gym and a hauss outside of it. Look forward to it brotha this stuff is awesome!:firedevil:
epstaneman
Banned
DAY 11:
AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaight gents. Today was pretty sweet. I'm starting to notice new things. Today was arm day and I got a pump that was so insane it was almost annoying....ALMOST. I kind of hated and loved it at the same time. Hated it because it kept me from banging out some more reps...but loved it enough to stop mid set and go flex in the mirror. Didn't really have to flex considering my skin was bout to rip fu*king open. I always told people....who give's a sh*t...you can get a pump simply by lifting with some balls. Well I never had a pump quite like "THIS." Although it's nothing to be excited about....it does excite me knowing it HAS BEGUN! **CUE SCARY THEME MUSIC**
BUM bum BUMMMMMM
All my reps went up and more noticeably....on particular exercise's my strength shot up like crazy. For example (don't laugh at me) but I work with 80p on the tricep push downs. Today I was working with 150. Big a*s jump. If this keeps up I'll out grow the damn stack by next week. lol
Even right now it feels like I have a pump in my biceps and forearms. Yesterday towards night I noticed my forearms felt tight. Almost like I had a pump even though it was a rest day I was like WTF? I don't like getting excited over every tiny thing because it can easily be in the head. Today after the gym during my shower I noticed it felt like my pec was getting in the way of me washing my shoulder. I don't know if it's because my bicep is more swole or my chest is more swole but either the case ....simply put....I'M GETTING SWOLE BIT*HES!!!! ha ha
Nothing negative to report guys. All my supports are keeping sides at bay and any other sides I may experience I don't seem to be experiencing .....so I can't complain. Going to up my Taurine though next week. Going to double it starting week 3. Don't have any back pumps but figure, at 8 bucks a bottle, why wait till I have back pain to take more Taurine?
So I officially mark today as the day I actually NOTICED changes. Now as far as visually go's....I know I'm not going to wake up like the incredible hulk over night, but definitely looking forward to whats next. That be pretty sweet though....wake up big, green, and in full throttle BEAST MODE!
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BEAST MODE BI*CHES!!
AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaight gents. Today was pretty sweet. I'm starting to notice new things. Today was arm day and I got a pump that was so insane it was almost annoying....ALMOST. I kind of hated and loved it at the same time. Hated it because it kept me from banging out some more reps...but loved it enough to stop mid set and go flex in the mirror. Didn't really have to flex considering my skin was bout to rip fu*king open. I always told people....who give's a sh*t...you can get a pump simply by lifting with some balls. Well I never had a pump quite like "THIS." Although it's nothing to be excited about....it does excite me knowing it HAS BEGUN! **CUE SCARY THEME MUSIC**
BUM bum BUMMMMMM
All my reps went up and more noticeably....on particular exercise's my strength shot up like crazy. For example (don't laugh at me) but I work with 80p on the tricep push downs. Today I was working with 150. Big a*s jump. If this keeps up I'll out grow the damn stack by next week. lol
Even right now it feels like I have a pump in my biceps and forearms. Yesterday towards night I noticed my forearms felt tight. Almost like I had a pump even though it was a rest day I was like WTF? I don't like getting excited over every tiny thing because it can easily be in the head. Today after the gym during my shower I noticed it felt like my pec was getting in the way of me washing my shoulder. I don't know if it's because my bicep is more swole or my chest is more swole but either the case ....simply put....I'M GETTING SWOLE BIT*HES!!!! ha ha
Nothing negative to report guys. All my supports are keeping sides at bay and any other sides I may experience I don't seem to be experiencing .....so I can't complain. Going to up my Taurine though next week. Going to double it starting week 3. Don't have any back pumps but figure, at 8 bucks a bottle, why wait till I have back pain to take more Taurine?
So I officially mark today as the day I actually NOTICED changes. Now as far as visually go's....I know I'm not going to wake up like the incredible hulk over night, but definitely looking forward to whats next. That be pretty sweet though....wake up big, green, and in full throttle BEAST MODE!
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BEAST MODE BI*CHES!!
loafy777
New member
...maybe more of a craving then hunger?
I'm dabbling with IF at the moment and I know that I can go extended periods of time without consuming calories (compared to an average person's eating schedule). Should I go off of my routine though, "hunger" rears it's head every so often despite my body having already been used to the lack of food.
That said, maybe this is similar; his body is used to receiving calories at those times and signals him to eat due to routine. I don't know. I'm not a Ph.D. or anything, though in my experience, that might be a positive statement.
Keep us posted on today's results, Ep. I'm curious to see what develops.
I'm dabbling with IF at the moment and I know that I can go extended periods of time without consuming calories (compared to an average person's eating schedule). Should I go off of my routine though, "hunger" rears it's head every so often despite my body having already been used to the lack of food.
That said, maybe this is similar; his body is used to receiving calories at those times and signals him to eat due to routine. I don't know. I'm not a Ph.D. or anything, though in my experience, that might be a positive statement.
Keep us posted on today's results, Ep. I'm curious to see what develops.
Red9
Member
murk01 said:
Your body does what you train it to do. If you eat just before going to bed, then youve trained it to eat at certain intervals, and in 8 hours or so, it wants food, so you wake up starving. If you normally wait a couple of hours after eating before going to bed, your body realizes that sleep (a good one) means no food for a long time. Eating just prior to going to sleep produces a less quality kind of sleep. The digestion keeps you from going into deep sleep which relaxes your brain and body.
So people who eat midnight snacks will wake up hungry whether or not they eat just before sleeping.
epstaneman
Banned
If you eat carbs or just a decent portion sized meal before bed....it spikes your insulin. Your blood sugar already dips as it is during sleep because your not eating. This illicit's an insulin response which triggers hunger. The fact you eat a hefty meal before bed just makes the insulin spike all the more higher and leading to further hunger.
Far as HOW hungry one person may feel compared to another can also have allot to do with habbit forming eating periods as mentioned by loafy777
epstaneman
Banned
Wouldn't be able to tell you from experience but if you ask me....ANY product geared toward insulin uptake or even keeping regular insulin levels are a waste of money. You can control your insulin effectively and most definitely by your nutrition rather then gambling on the latest 'craze product.'
If you want a quick insulin response to rapidly replenish your glycogen stores, try ANYTHING fast digesting. For example, my post workout consists of whey protein and frosted flakes. You can eat a damn snickers bar and it'll work...only it's high in fat and there are better alternatives. It just depends on how comfortable you are with your current body fat percentage.
As far as your glycogen stores adding to 'size'.....the only effective product known for that is creatine. Unless of course your on a un-natural product like steroids.
I wouldn't look to insulin control products unless I was at a EXTREMELY low body fat and wanted to get down to an even lower body fat. At that point in the game, ANY little bit of help is worth it. Even a fat burner. Course which ones are effective and/or proven is a whole other topic.
epstaneman
Banned
Mass Monkey
Active member
Very well said Epiman and u made me laugh as well.
I like to add glucose to my post shake for the spike.
BTW great log. Gives me ideas for my next cycle so TY
I like to add glucose to my post shake for the spike.
BTW great log. Gives me ideas for my next cycle so TY
epstaneman
Banned
DAY 12:
It's official. I'M SWOLE!!!! Remember when I was talking about waking up as a big green giant?....well, I'm not green but I'm fuc*ing bigger. Couple comments from a couple people....also my chick hugged me and noticed I felt bigger.
Today I went to get my sexy on at a tan place. Haven't been in a while and the guy at the desk was like "Dang dude. You got big! I remember from the last time you came in here....what's it been...a month ago?" Then he started telling me about his workouts etc. ha ha I'm on cloud 9...you know....where all the tan and sexy people go. I haven't had any mood swings but I've been very easy going, chill, and in a good mood. Course that can be the combination of beautiful marijuana mixed with getting swole on a daily bases. mua ha HA HA!!!! Why WOULDN'T you be in a good mood?
Strength is still continuing to climb but not as a dramatic jump like it did on arm day. I'd say body fat looks the same, so even with me routinely venturing off to get my o so awesome beloved barbacoa, I have maintained the same bf while getting bigger. I can go by weight, but water weight smuater weight.....at the end of this week I'll post results using my fat caliper. We'll see where my bf is sitting at and how how much lean muscle I have acquired.
I don't have that 'ON' feeling but I sure have that 'excited' feeling. I think if I stfu and concentrate ....the weed can allow me to feel my muscleces growing.....SHHHH!!!! wait.....there it go's....BAM! Just got another muscle guys.
Making........ALL KINDZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ of gains.
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.ALL KINDS
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It's official. I'M SWOLE!!!! Remember when I was talking about waking up as a big green giant?....well, I'm not green but I'm fuc*ing bigger. Couple comments from a couple people....also my chick hugged me and noticed I felt bigger.
Today I went to get my sexy on at a tan place. Haven't been in a while and the guy at the desk was like "Dang dude. You got big! I remember from the last time you came in here....what's it been...a month ago?" Then he started telling me about his workouts etc. ha ha I'm on cloud 9...you know....where all the tan and sexy people go. I haven't had any mood swings but I've been very easy going, chill, and in a good mood. Course that can be the combination of beautiful marijuana mixed with getting swole on a daily bases. mua ha HA HA!!!! Why WOULDN'T you be in a good mood?
Strength is still continuing to climb but not as a dramatic jump like it did on arm day. I'd say body fat looks the same, so even with me routinely venturing off to get my o so awesome beloved barbacoa, I have maintained the same bf while getting bigger. I can go by weight, but water weight smuater weight.....at the end of this week I'll post results using my fat caliper. We'll see where my bf is sitting at and how how much lean muscle I have acquired.
I don't have that 'ON' feeling but I sure have that 'excited' feeling. I think if I stfu and concentrate ....the weed can allow me to feel my muscleces growing.....SHHHH!!!! wait.....there it go's....BAM! Just got another muscle guys.
Making........ALL KINDZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ of gains.
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.ALL KINDS
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epstaneman
Banned
Woke up at 3a.m. to piss. Hungry.....mucho hungry. The beast wants to be feed. So I'm sitting here eating some steak then its back off to bed. O ya....and high quality h20. Looked in the mirror. I tell you....I'm f*cking getting big! And even though the only dirty food I eat is barbacoa....I eat it pretty frequently and it seems I'm not only maintaining BF...but seem to be leaning out too.
I'm not even done with 2 weeks and I'm getting big! I've decided that for Halloween I'm going to be THE HULK. I swear....I feel so big right now I should be on top of some sort of sky scraper with choppers shooting at me. Course it wouldn't do nothing to me anyway.....
I'M BEAST BABY!
I'm not even done with 2 weeks and I'm getting big! I've decided that for Halloween I'm going to be THE HULK. I swear....I feel so big right now I should be on top of some sort of sky scraper with choppers shooting at me. Course it wouldn't do nothing to me anyway.....
I'M BEAST BABY!
howwedo107
Well-known member
Any pics broski?
epstaneman
Banned
I won't be posting pics till later in the cycle....I will be posting my BF% and LBM regularly, so you can look to those in the mean time. But trust me....there WILL be pics.....o-yes.....the world must see this beast I created. ha ha ha
I know I didn't eat 100% clean like I stated in my very first post....but even with me giving in to my only weakness 'barbacoa' I tell you....I'am most DEFINITELY pimping this epistane like my bottom bi*ch hooker.
epstaneman
Banned
So far ......me and epi are making sweet sweet love. It's so explicit, not even porn should be looking at this.
