MK-677

djbombsquad said:
How's the quality ?
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Good, but it's the first time running it so nothing to compare it too. Almost all the normal effects mentioned by people I have experienced. Sleep is solid and almost instantaneous, hunger is ramped but I've learned to control it and use it to my advantage, definitely some bloat but I've lost weight recently so I've beat that side. Healing is faster. Pumps are just starting to get an increase. I started during pct so wasn't sure how to compare, but now that all the hormones are leveled I can really feel out how I feel now during a workout and the pumps and are getting bigger slowly.
 
What about recovery how do people feel after a heavy lift, I'm doing the same body twice a week and I'm feeling like I'm recovering fast enough to hit it again.
 
djbombsquad said:
What about recovery how do people feel after a heavy lift, I'm doing the same body twice a week and I'm feeling like I'm recovering fast enough to hit it again.
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i would still not hit same part more than 2x a week. better growth IMO
 
djbombsquad said:
What about recovery how do people feel after a heavy lift, I'm doing the same body twice a week and I'm feeling like I'm recovering fast enough to hit it again.
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There is almost no DOMS or soreness the day after. Usually I would know I would definitely be in pain the next day after certain workouts but at the most is slight soreness. None of that debilitating soreness/DOMS.

I'm about 2 months in at 10mg ED.
 
I started at 10 for the first 3 days and bumped it up to 20 than I will go back to 10 with hup a 3x a day and see if I get the same results .
 
anab0lix said:
There is almost no DOMS or soreness the day after. Usually I would know I would definitely be in pain the next day after certain workouts but at the most is slight soreness. None of that debilitating soreness/DOMS.

I'm about 2 months in at 10mg ED.
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Nice. I think that's on par with what I have noticed .
 
djbombsquad said:
Nice. I think that's on par with what I have noticed .
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Recovering almost instantly no doubt about it.

The only thing I'm still feeling after a few days is from super setting squats for 25 reps non stop,going extra heavy on the leg presses, and extra heavy on the SLDL. Haven't gone that intense in a very long time so makes sense. Without mk I know for sure, I wouldn't be able to walk for a week.

Just enough soreness to keep my back day(deadlift)few days away from leg day. But the growth I see and feel in my legs are insane.
 
I'm also using my ems at the end of every work out to fully fatigue the muscle .
 
Today I felt very strong on all my lifts !!!'n hunger is not a issue !
 
Just ordered some vici. Ran out of my pre. And I always like there stuff. I will get some more hydromax for my mid workout
 
This was probably in this thread somewhere, but it looks like Mk 677 does lower testosterone values.

(ah, I can't post links yet. "Discrepancy between serum leptin levels and total body fat in response to the oral growth hormone secretagogue Mk-677." I purchased the full text)

By 40-120ish ng/dl. Probably not a big deal for most here - especially since SBHG/Test ratio is unchanged - but it's enough to make me stop at the moment. I'm one month into Clomid monotherapy (50mg/day) and my total testosterone only came up by 150 points. I'll discontinue today, then re-test in one month and see if my T-levels were seriously impacted by the MK.
 
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I don't produce any test any way so I normally would have to be on trt.
 
GavinStevens said:
This was probably in this thread somewhere, but it looks like Mk 677 does lower testosterone values.

(ah, I can't post links yet. "Discrepancy between serum leptin levels and total body fat in response to the oral growth hormone secretagogue Mk-677." I purchased the full text)

By 40-120ish ng/dl. Probably not a big deal for most here - especially since SBHG/Test ratio is unchanged - but it's enough to make me stop at the moment. I'm one month into Clomid monotherapy (50mg/day) and my total testosterone only came up by 150 points. I'll discontinue today, then re-test in one month and see if my T-levels were seriously impacted by the MK.
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I am def looking forward to your update on your t levels. This is by no means a deal breaker for mk677 at all but it IS something people need to be aware of depending on their individual situation.
 
It may lower it a tad but since I don't produce it to begin with I can't to lower than I already am so I may not effect me.
 
Cgkone said:
Back looks yolked!!
Can you guys dummy down what effects your saying mk677 has on testosterone?
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If the study is reliable:
* Taking mk677 will lower your total testosterone level
* It might not matter if mk677 lowers your total testosterone level, because your free testosterone might stay the same.

I'll report back in a little over a month and let everyone know what mine looks like.
 
GavinStevens said:
If the study is reliable:
* Taking mk677 will lower your total testosterone level
* It might not matter if mk677 lowers your total testosterone level, because your free testosterone might stay the same.

I'll report back in a little over a month and let everyone know what mine looks like.
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So you're trying to find out if this change is permanent until the body reaches homeostasis after ceasing mk677?
 
djbombsquad said:
I started at 10 for the first 3 days and bumped it up to 20 than I will go back to 10 with hup a 3x a day and see if I get the same results .
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I've been reading lately that hup a really is pointless and doesn't do what they initially thought it would in terms of end results. Interested to see how it works for you.
 
cheeky1 said:
Yep, possible desensitisation over time was the concern way back when. Now it's still in the realm of possibilities & the suggested remedy is to increase the dose after X time. Ie 3 - 6 months at 10mg followed by 3 - 6 months at 20mg. The addition of somatostatin inhibiters may boost efficiency too, cycling them may be more beneficial (hup-a, melatonin etc).
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So the recommendation is to stay at the same dose for 3-6 months before bumping up? I had read 10/20/30mg per 30 day span.
I am considering trying MK-677 as it is non-hormonal and I am on off-cycle time.
 
I'm going up and down between 10-20 not going past that to be safe
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Did it say if Hup-A was detrimental, or just not efficacious/synergistic?
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thank you for changing that avatar! other one was getting creepy lol
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Really? Didn't think it was that bad? LOL. Yeah, new one after the Cut finished.
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this one is better- other one wasnt that bad, but this is better
 
GavinStevens said:
This was probably in this thread somewhere, but it looks like Mk 677 does lower testosterone values.

(ah, I can't post links yet. "Discrepancy between serum leptin levels and total body fat in response to the oral growth hormone secretagogue Mk-677." I purchased the full text)

By 40-120ish ng/dl. Probably not a big deal for most here - especially since SBHG/Test ratio is unchanged - but it's enough to make me stop at the moment. I'm one month into Clomid monotherapy (50mg/day) and my total testosterone only came up by 150 points. I'll discontinue today, then re-test in one month and see if my T-levels were seriously impacted by the MK.
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I'd really like to see those bloods...I've been taking it for almost 5 months now....had no idea
 
alexb13 said:
I'd really like to see those bloods...I've been taking it for almost 5 months now....had no idea
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^^^ Good point. I'd love to see those bloods too before I start on MK-677. I don't think I can afford a 150 point loss ... I'll start putting pink bows in my pigtails.
 
UncleSarm said:
^^^ Good point. I'd love to see those bloods too before I start on MK-677. I don't think I can afford a 150 point loss ... I'll start putting pink bows in my pigtails.
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can you change your name to smurfette

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GavinStevens said:
This was probably in this thread somewhere, but it looks like Mk 677 does lower testosterone values.

(ah, I can't post links yet. "Discrepancy between serum leptin levels and total body fat in response to the oral growth hormone secretagogue Mk-677." I purchased the full text)

By 40-120ish ng/dl. Probably not a big deal for most here - especially since SBHG/Test ratio is unchanged - but it's enough to make me stop at the moment. I'm one month into Clomid monotherapy (50mg/day) and my total testosterone only came up by 150 points. I'll discontinue today, then re-test in one month and see if my T-levels were seriously impacted by the MK.
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That's a very interesting find. Do you think you could share the full text of the study with me? I have my Twitter in my signature and I'll add a link to my email in a minute. If it's no problem, I can throw it up on mega or mediafire or whatever for you so we can all have a look.

Have you had blood tests recently to see how your own levels are doing? Might be a good excuse to throw in some 4DHEA into your cycle to bump your test levels back up.

On a side note, I'm searching high and low for some good quality affordable MK677 but it seems to be getting harder and harder to find. If anyone could contribute to the thread below, shoot me a PM or something I would greatly appreciate it.

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Thanks in advance!
pogue
 
there is plenty of good sources- some are right here on this forum
 
smith_69 said:
there is plenty of good sources- some are right here on this forum
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Could you point me in the general direction of some? I'm preferably looking for encapsulated MK677 as opposed to liquid. I see the research chem sites have some, but it's pretty pricey. In the bottom of the thread I linked to there is some right now on ebay for $33 for 30 servings at 25mg a serving, but I'm a bit skeptical about the vendor. It seems like a lot of the high end vendors out there have closed up shop and moved away from the SARMs market.
 
pogue said:
Could you point me in the general direction of some? I'm preferably looking for encapsulated MK677 as opposed to liquid. I see the research chem sites have some, but it's pretty pricey. In the bottom of the thread I linked to there is some right now on ebay for $33 for 30 servings at 25mg a serving, but I'm a bit skeptical about the vendor. It seems like a lot of the high end vendors out there have closed up shop and moved away from the SARMs market.
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PHW has the Focused Nutrition line.

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HardB0iled said:
PHW has the Focused Nutrition line.

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Yeah, I saw that one too. I was just looking to see if there were any other cheaper deals out there or some specials floating around.

Also, sorry, I didn't mean to derail your thread here!
 
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pogue said:
Could you point me in the general direction of some? I'm preferably looking for encapsulated MK677 as opposed to liquid. I see the research chem sites have some, but it's pretty pricey. In the bottom of the thread I linked to there is some right now on ebay for $33 for 30 servings at 25mg a serving, but I'm a bit skeptical about the vendor. It seems like a lot of the high end vendors out there have closed up shop and moved away from the SARMs market.
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Some RC companies are garbage, some employ MDs and Pharmacists - you have to do your due diligence and find a good one. I'd be as worried about some Ebay stuff, as a shady RC. You're right on the price though - about double. Then again, how was the capped stuff so cheap - Volume?
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Some RC companies are garbage, some employ MDs and Pharmacists - you have to do your due diligence and find a good one. I'd be as worried about some Ebay stuff, as a shady RC. You're right on the price though - about double. Then again, how was the capped stuff so cheap - Volume?
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agree- in theory higher volume and still making a profit by selling more vs being stuck with surplus. FN is coming back strong, so it would be crucial to make sure what they have out now exceeds expectations. Otherwise adios
 
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