MK-677

Toff said:
Ive got 3 weeks until holiday - worth getting starting on the mk677 now or wait until i get back?

currently in pct for an ostarine cutting cycle.
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I would start it now. The increased Gh pulses will help during pct. MK can cause a little bloating for some, dependent upon the individual and the dose. At 10 mg I find it to be minimal.
 
Decided to run 5 on 2 off. 20 mg was exhausting and a little bloating. 10 mg is way better for me also
 
Cgkone said:
Decided to run 5 on 2 off. 20 mg was exhausting and a little bloating. 10 mg is way better for me also
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Some people respond better to different doses. I thought I was going to run 10mg indefinitely but I bumped it up to 20mg last week after having been on 10mg for almost 5 months straight with a couples weeks off somewhere in there, and so far so good. No extra bloating or anything. I'll probably run 20mg for a full 8 weeks before deciding if I want to keep running it at that dose or drop it back down to 10mg/day.
I'm also going to experiment with CJC-1295 along with somatostatin inhibitors like Hup-A and others.
 
Jebrook said:
I would start it now. The increased Gh pulses will help during pct. MK can cause a little bloating for some, dependent upon the individual and the dose. At 10 mg I find it to be minimal.
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It's THE game changing product in pct, IME.
 
It's THE game-changing all year round staple, in MY opinion ;) lolol
 
So I'm coming to an end of my pct and I'm thinking about running reduce xt and/or an over the counter AI for a few weeks.
Thinking it might shed a little water weight. I'm going to continue with the mk677 for at least 6 months, all the way through next cycle.
 
I'm just a couple days short of 2 weeks on the mk677 but I really sleep and eat great. And I'm feeling more full and pumped through out the day. Wish I would have started first day of pct.
 
Cgkone said:
I'm just a couple days short of 2 weeks on the mk677 but I really sleep and eat great. And I'm feeling more full and pumped through out the day. Wish I would have started first day of pct.
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Mk677 ghar1ne is like they said above...a real game changer! Love it!
 
I wish mk677's effect for falling asleep easily still kept around for me.

After a few weeks insomnia is back. Not big a surprise though, sleeping habit is just ludicrous for me. But the sleep quality is still way better for the hours I sleep.
 
anab0lix said:
I wish mk677's effect for falling asleep easily still kept around for me.

After a few weeks insomnia is back. Not big a surprise though, sleeping habit is just ludicrous for me. But the sleep quality is still way better for the hours I sleep.
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Have you tried melatonin? That works for sleep.
 
GavinStevens said:
Oh, I'm not expecting exogenous HGH-type results. I'm simply interested in some results.
The question I'm essentially raising - because I don't know much about this stuff - is where is the difference?

Exogenous HGH will spike GH levels to supraphysiological levels.
MK-677 is a secretagogue that will elevate natural GH production to the top of, or perhaps above, the natural range.

How high do you have to get these levels to notice the performance-enhancing results?
I'd love to get to Dr. Ho's paper itself, as perhaps it has bloodwork results on it, but all I can find is articles about the study. It apparently showed a 4-5% reduction in 100 meter sprint times after "low" exogenous HGH injections.
How low? I don't know. I'll ask Dr. Ho.

:omfg:
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BRO, been on mk-677 for meh bout 3 months now, and i would say the gains are slow and steady. The type that you barely notice because they increase slowly over time. Mk-677 has been shown to increase levels steadily for up to 6months, then it plateaus. BUT the gains you get from it, in a three month "cycle" imo would DEF be noticeable if you took nothing for those 3 months and were to look @ a clone of yourself who had been on mk-677 for 3 months. Main thing you notice right away is RAVENOUS HUNGER so if your just trying to get the fat burning benefits from increased GH, i would stear way clear. However if you want muscle gains, NOTHING you can legally buy will come even close to this. So it can be an incredibly useful add on to a bulk cycle (esp if stacked with other prohormones or anabolics) or if you have great self control it can also be useful in a cut. MK-677 mimics grehlin, which is THE HORMONE THAT MAKES YOU HANGRY. Its secreated by your fat cells (i think) and it will raise gh and igf-1 levels. ITs amazing IMO. Another thing i noticed is, it can help with sleep. But i seem to get wierd dreams. SORRY if some of this had already been mentioned, i didnt read the whole thread. Hope it helps.
 
anab0lix said:
To keep it easy to understand. I'm the type that would need a couple xanax bars and some ambien to fall asleep. Lol
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25-50 mg's of benydryl and you can literally sleep through anything day or night. For me it seams to wear off around the 6-8 hr mark.
 
I used to take 20mg of Ghar1ne upon waking since I never got any lethargy at all but damn...just started taking it 1 hour before going to bed and my sleep is so deep I can't believe it. Didn't sleep this well since 1997 lol
 
anab0lix said:
To keep it easy to understand. I'm the type that would need a couple xanax bars and some ambien to fall asleep. Lol
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Hey anab0lix! :head: I know we went through this a little, but phenibut has been the go to for me since I tried it, better than any other natty combo or OTC product I've yet tried. 1500mg combined with some valerian if I've been a caffeine pig & I sleep like a baby & wake up pretty fresh. Highly recommend it, apologies if you have tried it already.

After 3 months at 10mg of MK I'm back up to 20mgED, but it's tiring me again :crying: Think I'm just gonna have to run 10mg & have now introduced Pure Factors Pro IGF600 to assist the cranky joints further (I also use osta in cycles). That combo seems to be working well, the low dose (5mg) Pure Factors IGF was ok, but this 20mg seems to work much better & my wrists are pain free after just 3 days. Price of the IGF600 is unkind, but i'll stick with this combo for awhile & see how I go.
 
xtyler said:
I used to take 20mg of Ghar1ne upon waking since I never got any lethargy at all but damn...just started taking it 1 hour before going to bed and my sleep is so deep I can't believe it. Didn't sleep this well since 1997 lol
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Enjoy it while it lasts! :woohoo:
 
alexb13 said:
25-50 mg's of benydryl and you can literally sleep through anything day or night. For me it seams to wear off around the 6-8 hr mark.
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Benedryl and doxylamine succinate(said to be on par or even stronger than phenobarbital in terms of sedation) are a hit or miss for me but those are the best OTC. I've taken up too 150mg benadryl and 75mg of doxylamine succinate and couldn't sleep one time....that was only a one time thing though. On top of that if I do fall a sleep the next day all-day hangover is just unbearable sometimes. Plus they make me pee NON stop every 20-30minutes which makes it even harder to fall asleep.

cheeky1 said:
Hey anab0lix! :head: I know we went through this a little, but phenibut has been the go to for me since I tried it, better than any other natty combo or OTC product I've yet tried. 1500mg combined with some valerian if I've been a caffeine pig & I sleep like a baby & wake up pretty fresh. Highly recommend it, apologies if you have tried it already.

After 3 months at 10mg of MK I'm back up to 20mgED, but it's tiring me again :crying: Think I'm just gonna have to run 10mg & have now introduced Pure Factors Pro IGF600 to assist the cranky joints further (I also use osta in cycles). That combo seems to be working well, the low dose (5mg) Pure Factors IGF was ok, but this 20mg seems to work much better & my wrists are pain free after just 3 days. Price of the IGF600 is unkind, but i'll stick with this combo for awhile & see how I go.
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Due to my severe past benzo use. Phenibut at first for maybe the first few weeks works in terms of calming me down. But nothing even close to a 10mg valium and that's pretty weak.

I just picked up 5 bottles of SNS Picamilon 150(Have really high hopes for this) and will try taking it solo and see how I feel first. Then stack it with phenibut, melatonin, velerian, passion flower, lemon balm, and chamomile for sleep.

No health insurance= no legit meds I can get and I'm not a rich man.


I'm about half way done with my ghar1ne at 10mg. After I'm done I think I will run a light Celtic Labs dianodrol cycle with OL's sup3r-4 elite at 2 caps starting around the 2-3week of an 8 week cycle for possible lethargy. Dry compound and a little test/estro seems like it would be a great run. Of course I will be running 10mg of MK677 all the way then take a break.

I need to first finish my 60day ralox run for the minor gyno research I have as well
 
anab0lix said:
Benedryl and doxylamine succinate(said to be on par or even stronger than phenobarbital in terms of sedation) are a hit or miss for me but those are the best OTC. I've taken up too 150mg benadryl and 75mg of doxylamine succinate and couldn't sleep one time....that was only a one time thing though. On top of that if I do fall a sleep the next day all-day hangover is just unbearable sometimes. Plus they make me pee NON stop every 20-30minutes which makes it even harder to fall asleep.


Due to my severe past benzo use. Phenibut at first for maybe the first few weeks works in terms of calming me down. But nothing even close to a 10mg valium and that's pretty weak.

I just picked up 5 bottles of SNS Picamilon 150(Have really high hopes for this) and will try taking it solo and see how I feel first. Then stack it with phenibut, melatonin, velerian, passion flower, lemon balm, and chamomile for sleep.

No health insurance= no legit meds I can get and I'm not a rich man.


I'm about half way done with my ghar1ne at 10mg. After I'm done I think I will run a light Celtic Labs dianodrol cycle with OL's sup3r-4 elite at 2 caps starting around the 2-3week of an 8 week cycle for possible lethargy. Dry compound and a little test/estro seems like it would be a great run. Of course I will be running 10mg of MK677 all the way then take a break.

I need to first finish my 60day ralox run for the minor gyno research I have as well
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I hope something works for you mate, even if you have to cycle through various compounds it's gotta be better than being med reliant forever & a day.

Epiandro or dermacrine + the dianadrol & sup3r-4? I'd start with one of them, as a primer (for estro too) & get the feel goodness happening early, then jump into the rest. Just a thought.
 
cheeky1 said:
I hope something works for you mate, even if you have to cycle through various compounds it's gotta be better than being med reliant forever & a day.

Epiandro or dermacrine + the dianadrol & sup3r-4? I'd start with one of them, as a primer (for estro too) & get the feel goodness happening early, then jump into the rest. Just a thought.
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Thanks man.

Actually dianodrol is a very feel good compound much like the actual dbol, just opposite in terms of being dry rather than wet.

Almost everyone that has run dianodrol says they felt very euphoric on it. So with a little bit of test and estro I think it will be an amazing cycle.
 
im just on 10mg and im seeing drastic progressive changes that I couldnt get previously.
Fat loss is like when I was in my late teens.
Slow and steady wins the race - ive always like l-dop for gh release

Unlike the likes of ostarine, or PH's there no ups and downs just a nice long temr steady win, like creatine or upping protein yet with fat loss improved sleep and more


p.s.
anyone get toilet trouble? Protein shakes coming out the way they went in!
 
I finally had to quit mk. The lethargy and hunger never went away even at 10mg. I would sleep so deep but it would still be so hard to get up at 5am. It was also impossible to drop my calories anywhere near maintenance. Now that it's been a week or 2 I'm feeling normal again. Shame though because it is definitely a great compound.
 
GreenMachineX said:
I finally had to quit mk. The lethargy and hunger never went away even at 10mg. I would sleep so deep but it would still be so hard to get up at 5am. It was also impossible to drop my calories anywhere near maintenance. Now that it's been a week or 2 I'm feeling normal again. Shame though because it is definitely a great compound.
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That really is a damn shame. Sorry to hear that.
 
DR.D said:
Actually, high protein with low carbs is demonstrated to reduce the growth rate of cancers (the incidents too) so I'd guess a cutting regimen might be intrinsically safer than others. Cancers generally thrive on high carbs, not surprisingly. Not sure fats play a major role one way or the other.
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Go keto !!
 
GreenMachineX said:
I finally had to quit mk. The lethargy and hunger never went away even at 10mg. I would sleep so deep but it would still be so hard to get up at 5am. It was also impossible to drop my calories anywhere near maintenance. Now that it's been a week or 2 I'm feeling normal again. Shame though because it is definitely a great compound.
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It is amazing how different people are sometimes. Suks man, but, MORE MONEY FOR PIZZA!!!!! :)
 
Just started 12.5mg/day (biogear). Breaking the pills in half and taking sublingual.

5on 2off or ED?
 
Cgkone said:
So is the general feeling that everyday is better with low dosage
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This is the first time I've ever heard of anyone considering anything other than daily dosage.. So yeah.
 
Wait we are still talking about mk677 right? I mean, the beginning of this thread is saturated with people talking about 2 on 1 off...5 on 2 off. To some how avoid negative feedback and desensitization. Shoot, maybe the mk677 has my rem sleep so enhanced that I dreamed it all up. My apologies if that's the case.
 
Cgkone said:
Wait we are still talking about mk677 right? I mean, the beginning of this thread is saturated with people talking about 2 on 1 off...5 on 2 off. To some how avoid negative feedback and desensitization. Shoot, maybe the mk677 has my rem sleep so enhanced that I dreamed it all up. My apologies if that's the case.
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yup. I think it was because people thought mk677 caused desensitization and something along the lines of consistent gh release?
 
BeardedBreast said:
Just started 12.5mg/day (biogear). Breaking the pills in half and taking sublingual.

5on 2off or ED?
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I tried both ways, went with ED after more feedback on AM about keeping the pulses constant, or somesuch. Didn't see a huge difference tbh, ED gave more consistency for recovery in general I think, so if the $ are of concern a 5/2 split may still be worth it.
 
Cgkone said:
Wait we are still talking about mk677 right? I mean, the beginning of this thread is saturated with people talking about 2 on 1 off...5 on 2 off. To some how avoid negative feedback and desensitization. Shoot, maybe the mk677 has my rem sleep so enhanced that I dreamed it all up. My apologies if that's the case.
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anab0lix said:
yup. I think it was because people thought mk677 caused desensitization and something along the lines of consistent gh release?
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Yep, possible desensitisation over time was the concern way back when. Now it's still in the realm of possibilities & the suggested remedy is to increase the dose after X time. Ie 3 - 6 months at 10mg followed by 3 - 6 months at 20mg. The addition of somatostatin inhibiters may boost efficiency too, cycling them may be more beneficial (hup-a, melatonin etc).
 
I've been using it at 30mg for the past month (almost 2 now I believe) before that was 20mg for 1 month.
Sleep/recovery is great; my only issue is sometimes it's so damn hard to get up some mornings.

I haven't noticed any lethargy or increased hunger even with Intermittent Fasting but that might be related to my diet or my EC stack (only recently started that again though).
 
KetoSpartan said:
I've been using it at 30mg for the past month (almost 2 now I believe) before that was 20mg for 1 month.
Sleep/recovery is great; my only issue is sometimes it's so damn hard to get up some mornings.

I haven't noticed any lethargy or increased hunger even with Intermittent Fasting but that might be related to my diet or my EC stack (only recently started that again though).
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Anything to report in terms of body composition?
 
i can feel the puleses when they kick in, even at 10mg.

I get a hot flush and then hands feel firmer and warm feeling of flushing all over me and a hot face, numb hands

I would be interested as its non ternsdermal or injection, the liver toxicity? Im still in pct so my urine is brown but would be nice to know

Any updates to the chemical trials? as per ostarine
 
Toff said:
i can feel the puleses when they kick in, even at 10mg.

I get a hot flush and then hands feel firmer and warm feeling of flushing all over me and a hot face, numb hands

I would be interested as its non ternsdermal or injection, the liver toxicity? Im still in pct so my urine is brown but would be nice to know

Any updates to the chemical trials? as per ostarine
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No liver toxicity. Only one subjects of the trials experienced a transaminases elevation but he admittedly drank the night before the test.
 
Ok cool. Thanks guys. ED is fine with me. If I'm ever to a point where 60$ a month is make or break the bank account mk677 won't even be in the equation. I just wanted to be on the safe side.
 
xtyler said:
Anything to report in terms of body composition?
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I've noticed some changes in terms of muscle definition but to be totally honest my diet was pretty ****ty for the first bit of this year.
Over the past couple weeks I've tightened it back up so we'll see what the changes are now that everything is dialed back in.
Training is just a simple 5x5 routine 3 days a week with 2 days of HIIT/LISS cardio (weekends off)

Cgkone said:
Ok cool. Thanks guys. ED is fine with me. If I'm ever to a point where 60$ a month is make or break the bank account mk677 won't even be in the equation. I just wanted to be on the safe side.
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$60 for a month supply? From where?
I'm paying $60 CND for 2 months (caps are 25mg or 10mg).
 
Um, I was just generalizing that for me the cost of mk677 is not an issue at all. I'm actually running fight farm mk inferno right now. 12.5 ,5 on 2 off. Have been on it for almost a month. I plan on going research route for my next issue.
 
I have seen good thing stacking mk with cjc 1295 (w/dac).
Some impressive Blood work is floating around with that combo dosed:
mk 25mg/day; 5on,2off
1295: 750mcg;E3D
 
Cgkone said:
Um, I was just generalizing that for me the cost of mk677 is not an issue at all. I'm actually running fight farm mk inferno right now. 12.5 ,5 on 2 off. Have been on it for almost a month. I plan on going research route for my next issue.
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How's the quality ?
 
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