Well I tried this combo finally @ 2 and 2 and I must say I liked it. I gained strength and lost fat during my recomp. I peed a lot which from what I read can be attributed to the Erase. I had really good workouts. I never noticed any crazy sweating but It obviously worked. My joints got better in some areas and worse in others. The one drawback I have noticed is a significant loss of strength with no change in diet since stopping 2 weeks ago. I am however still losing fat. All in all it seems like a good product, I might consider running it again and finishing the stack off with DAA or something.