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**** Methyl 1-test!

db682 said:
but I know damn well I wouldnt be able to take my shirt off at the beach if I had a pair of milking tits.
db
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I actually almost fell out of my chair laughing when I read this! :D
 
Before i address the matter at hand...

Rebel -- who the **** are you? You may laugh at my "unpreparation"...but trust me son - Bodywise, Im going to say my 5'11" 215lb 5% bf body would mosty likely put yours to shame. Like DB said, loose the fucking additude bro, it gets ya no where. Go over to elitefitness.com if you wanna talk ****...im sure all the other 16-19 yr olds would love to talk with you.

ahhh...now that im released the pent up roid rage...yes, i got good news. Everything is normal. Im running nolva and vitex now and soarness has gone away, but the puffiness has only gone away a little. How long should i run the nolva? How long will i have to run it to notice a change? My doctor said the soarness and everything else might just be going away on ITS OWN, not becuase of the nolva since ive only been running it 4 days now...does it take long to kick in?
 
Not even close.
 
Pizmo,
I just noticed your age says 80 (Eighty). That cant be right!! If your claiming to be 215lb 5'11" and %5 bf individual that would make you one of the (if not the) fittest individuals that is walking the earth at your age.
After a little research on Thepizmo at a couple other boards Ive learned he's nowhere near 80. Piz you arent trying to Bullshit your fellow members at AM.com are ya.
Honesty is the best policy. But well keep all the **** Ive come across our little secret.

db

PS. I especially love your post on how Shutdown from Fina causes you to feel like youve been kicked in the balls everyday till it you return to normal. CLASSIC ;)
 
Thats not the age Im getting from other boards either.
Try Again! Lower this time. ;)

If you think im pulling your chain, then trace your footsteps at the other boards you frequented.

P.I. db
 
LOL you think i give my real age or name on boards? Ill tell ya what...to make it easier for ya, ill give you my credit card numbers AND my social security number too...hell, give me your name and ill just sign you on as a co-member of my bank account...

All honestly im only 68.

BJ MUN -- LOL I must'nt of been a member yet for that one, dont remember it.
 
DB - OK its time to come clean....ive been liviing a lie, and its been hurting too long. Ahhh...ok here it goes. Im 8 yrs old. Ill be graduating the first grade in may...*crying* God it feels good, like a weight off my shoulders. But seroiusly...in the end, what did it matter?
 
Well certain things you say on each board conflict with things you say on other boards and that only gives me doubts. Everyone that has been around for awhile can tell you a little story about a fellow named YJ. Long story with a very abrupt ending. You get caught in one lie then why should anyone believe anything else you say?
Asking for help is one thing but I prefer not to help people who are full of ****.
Since when does letting your age be known set you up for any financial downfalls?

db

Sorry guys but while researching for another product at other boards I started running across this guys posts and I started smelling something fishy.
 
ok so if i lie about my age, then i guess that means im lying about everything. You're 100% correct. Makes sense. Yeah see...im lying about the gyno too. I figured id come on here and LIE about my symptoms so that i CANT get help and i get full blow bitch tits. I love having them, i never want them to go away so i look like woman. I dont see what ANYONE wouldnt want them, they are very attractive. And what the hell do i say on other boards that contradict what i say here? (other than age). My weight? Yeah if you look at some other boards i say im 205lbs...but dont forget, that was also 5 months ago. Ive also gained 10lbs of the last cycle of methyl 1-test, and i eat between 6-7 times a day. People do gain weight bro..never lied about anything other than age, and im more than "of age" so what are we worrying about here?
 
PS- if you wanna continue this..PM me. We got way off the topic of purpose for this thread, therefore are just are wasting time and space here. This thread has served it purpose and then some, so im done with it.
 
db682 said:
Sorry guys but while researching for another product at other boards I started running across this guys posts and I started smelling something fishy.
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Understandable! I feel like people who have different names on different boards are the same. Something to hide somewhere??
 
db682 said:
GO SEE A FUCKING DOCTOR!!!!

If your lactating your hormone levels are running very close to the threshold of no return for Gyno. Get a script from your doctor and dont sit back and hope that "for research only" compounds will fix your little problem. No offense to B12 or any other manufactur of Research materials but your talking about having tits here bro. This isnt bloat!!! It your body, you gotta decide, but I know damn well I wouldnt be able to take my shirt off at the beach if I had a pair of milking tits.
Play it safe. It wont hurt to see a doctor. And you should have known better about the 6oxo garbage.

Good luck,

db
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I 2nd that...also might want to get a topical fat burner like lipoderm and throw some of that on there...

for the future bro..make sure you cross your T's and dot your i's b4 taking ANYTHING..especially something relatively new like m1t....

h19
 
thepizmo- I saw that you're around 215# 5'11. Can I ask what dosage of m1t you were using in the 1st and 2nd cycle? I assume they were different amounts. (I realize not everyone is affected the same way by the same dosage, but I'd like a reference point.) Thanks.
 
...so it sounds like this guy has a history of juicing too ?

Not just M1T ?
 
rrgg--
**** i wish i was still 215lbs LOL... Im trying something a lil different now. Switched my diet around like crazy here. Still the same size, but now down to 192lbs. As for what amts i was doing during THAT particular cycle...
week 1 - 10mg
weeks 2-3 -20mg
week 4 - 30mg

My first cycle of m1t ever went:
weeks 1-2 -10mg
weeks 3-4 - 20mg

From what ive noticed myself, and alot of people have told me, friends, and people on here, it seems like the best gains came when we kept dosages on a lower level. 10-20mgs. Just my 2 cents.

pu12en12g--
Not really...of course ive done the ph 1-ad a few times, who hasnt...
But other than that, i did fina for a 3 week cycle. I got some major shutdown (nuts hurt like crazy) during the end of week 3 so i cut it short...was going to do 4 week but, **** happens.

Piz
 
Guys would Clomid have helped as well as Nolva for his PCT?

I know i have read only Nolva has reversed gyno... but Clomid is recommended for PCT.. yes?

Note: i have done three cycles of M1T and never had anythink like this happen.. and only used 6OXO on the last cycle for 14 days.

Though i have clomid on hand now... i am thinking i need to stock up on Nolva.

Just some rambling thoughts...

Raugh.
 
Using both? Pardon? I was just asking.. if using Clomid was as good as using Nolva... thats about it.

Can and will Clomid help with Gyno or prevent it?

Raugh.
 
He answered that way because this is a common question. Clomid would help, but apparently most think Nolva works better.
 
well that and the fact that some of us don't like some of the sides that come with Clomid.. the extreme mood swings, "tracer" in our vision, etc
 
Matthew D said:
well that and the fact that some of us don't like some of the sides that come with Clomid.. the extreme mood swings, "tracer" in our vision, etc
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I hate that too, I can't even finish a decent PCT w/out cutting the clomid short. That **** gets toxic after 3weeks to me nasty style. Does Tamo do it to you too? If not, what dose is effective? I have used Tamo when on cycle at low (20-40mg) doses, but never in fat PCT doses.
 
i know this is an older thread but I was wondering if thepizmo had any updates to his unfortunate situation. Thank you.
 
Good as gold now...about 2 weeks into take the nolva everything was gone and hasnt reoccured or anything. Done a cycle since...had no problems at all.
 
Board is informative and entertaining. I enjoy the whole thread. What I have learnt is that do not forget the PCT in hand regardles if running PH or AS for 1 day to 12 weeks. God bless all.
 
doctorb said:
Board is informative and entertaining. I enjoy the whole thread. What I have learnt is that do not forget the PCT in hand regardles if running PH or AS for 1 day to 12 weeks. God bless all.
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You have to be ready. Gyno can surprise you when you least expect it. But now PCT is hard to find.
 
DR.D said:
You have to be ready. Gyno can surprise you when you least expect it. But now PCT is hard to find.
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An anti-e and nolva (on hand) can take care of most gyno issues, but what is best for prog./prolactin related gyno from nandrolone derivatives? Some people recommend bromo @5mg to cover it. Is there something better to recommend? I know you are full of knowledge that you're just waiting to be asked to share. -- Here's a difficult one: if a person only had pergolide and not bromo, what dose would be required to keep prolactin levels under control even on a cycle including nandrolone/derivate?
 
Strateg0s said:
An anti-e and nolva (on hand) can take care of most gyno issues, but what is best for prog./prolactin related gyno from nandrolone derivatives? Some people recommend bromo @5mg to cover it. Is there something better to recommend? I know you are full of knowledge that you're just waiting to be asked to share. -- Here's a difficult one: if a person only had pergolide and not bromo, what dose would be required to keep prolactin levels under control even on a cycle including nandrolone/derivate?
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I took Nolva for 2 months and it didn't improve. I stacked ~50ug pergoline with it finally and it was gone it a week! I still think estrogen plays a role, but mostly you need to poison your pituitary. Not for long though, because it shuts down most everything. LH secretion too, so it would be counter productive during PCT and just plain crazy for long term fat loss. I've actually seen bromo advocated for that :blink: I think people just don't understand what it does to you, but great for prog. gyno
 
Wow just read this whole thread.. could not sleep, I am glad that piz git lined out. What surprised me most was that Raloxifene was not nearly as good as Nolva. I take HRT and my doc will only prescribe me Evista ( Raloxifene), right now I am on a M1T 4AD cycle and doing very well. I thought if anything happened I would take my Evista and be cool. The medline study bummed me out.

PD
 
BUFF STUFF said:
Sounds like your lactating, not good!

Could be progestrogen induced, I would get some vitex (which is OTC) or bromo which you will need to get from a source.

You should be using novla for post cycle man, dont tell me you didnt use it post cycle last time
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although 1-test and m1-t don't have estrogen activity, what about "progestinic" activity? I heard this is possible; any studies or proof on this?;)
 
Pumpdog,
Look at the bright side, at least your HDL will be good with the Ral :thumbsup: and it should still help too. A dopaminergic combo is crutial though.

Grifter,
If you have nolva@40mg and bromo @2.5-5mg per day, you don't need the Vitex
 
DR.D said:
I took Nolva for 2 months and it didn't improve. I stacked ~50ug pergoline with it finally and it was gone it a week! I still think estrogen plays a role, but mostly you need to poison your pituitary. Not for long though, because it shuts down most everything. LH secretion too, so it would be counter productive during PCT and just plain crazy for long term fat loss. I've actually seen bromo advocated for that :blink: I think people just don't understand what it does to you, but great for prog. gyno
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So 50mcg of pergolide as needed should do the job? If so, that is good news. I also really don't see the point of using these things for long term use, repartitioning or not. There are thousands of ways which are both much easier and much more sane.
 
Strateg0s said:
So 50mcg of pergolide as needed should do the job? If so, that is good news. I also really don't see the point of using these things for long term use, repartitioning or not. There are thousands of ways which are both much easier and much more sane.
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I totally agree my friend. I bet Bobo would be the repartitioning guru to ask. I think his diet is better than the NASA or Olympic program! I think using the right oils is a big part of it once you get the carb/protein ratio right. But yeah, that perg is strong. I had to break my pills into 5 little pieces. And they even make stronger ones too!
 
DR.D said:
Pumpdog,
Look at the bright side, at least your HDL will be good with the Ral :thumbsup: and it should still help too. A dopaminergic combo is crutial though.
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At the risk of sounding like an idiot, what is a dopaminergic combo. I tried looking up the word and really did not find anything in a timely manner. It seems they use it for parkinson?

PD
 
PumpDogg said:
At the risk of sounding like an idiot, what is a dopaminergic combo. I tried looking up the word and really did not find anything in a timely manner. It seems they use it for parkinson?

PD
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They do use it for Parkinson's, and certain forms of male perf. enhancement, but it's also a good pituitary poison. That means that it turns off secretion of LH, FSH, Prolactin, etc. Combine that with some nolva and you have a good no lacto combo. There is a lot of good info distributed over a variety of theads on this board if you try a seaarch here. And even though they would be bad to use during PCT, dopaminergics do promote GH release to varying degrees.
 
NO MERCY said:
Dr. D what about vit b6 to help control high prolactin levels. Thanx
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Yeah, I've heard that B6 really helps, but it's just too toxic over 100mg/d. It's a nerve poison at high doses and can cause permanent damage. The cabergoline is a twice a week anti-prolactin that is pretty new. It's suppose to kick ass with just 0.25mg twice a week. Long 3 day t1/2. Estrogen plays a role too usually so stack it w/ nolva if possible.
 
so. Doc D - just a recap question
"Keep nolva on hand" is now "Keep nolva and bromo/cabergoline/pergolide at hand" when dealing with prog AAS like Deca, Tren (possibly mohn, 19-nor, m1t)?
 
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