What’s crazy is it seems 7a methyl estradiol from trest is even more insidious, obnoxious, and negative than the 17a methyl estradiol from Dianabol.
Trest aceTrest D I presume?
Maybe up to 150/week if you ever want to see what it’s a capable of. But my guess is, with Deca 300 and trestA @150, it’ll be hard to make a fist. But the gains are going to be epic.Trest ace
I haven't found any trest d just ace and that alone is hard to find let alone expensive, thanks I will!Oh ok. Usually trest d is 100mg/ ml it seemed easier to get 100mg a week that way lol. Yeah let us know how it goes
Yeah I'm just feeling it out, I'm normally side free so fingers crossed I don't have any problems with estrogen or prolactin. Might increase dosage as I go but I have no experience with trest ace.Maybe up to 150/week if you ever want to see what it’s a capable of. But my guess is, with Deca 300 and trestA @150, it’ll be hard to make a fist. But the gains are going to be epic.
I have a source for trest decanoate but it’s US domestic. I think that might be hard if you’re all the way over in Scandinavia.I haven't found any trest d just ace and that alone is hard to find let alone expensive, thanks I will!
I have a source for trest decanoate but it’s US domestic. I think that might be hard if you’re all the way over in Scandinavia.
Like just a sales tax or more like a duty fee?Yeah it's a bit risky because they have some new rules where you have to pay taxes if you buy something.
Nah something because it's outside eu.. To many Chinese orders and the postal service lost money, or had too much to do or somethingLike just a sales tax or more like a duty fee?
Noticed a little night sweating or anything yet?
Chados in a few weeks:
Week 4 update. I’ve quit my day job and am now in the porn industry
Thats how it was for me lol. Was trying to bang anything with a V
It’s all of the above. But I agree with you. A big problem for me, is the insane amount of confidence and pride it gives me. Which is the opposite of what I want. I’m constantly thinking “you are out of your mind even looking at me! I am 90lbs bigger than you and would break you in half!” And I’m still thinking I’d break the females in half, however in a different way...Theres definitely something to be said about confidence on steroids. Almost makes us animalistic, we know we're walking around with twice the amount of testosterone. I have a theory that half of the (being horny) is just confidence thinking your a better version of yourself
It’s all of the above. But I agree with you. A big problem for me, is the insane amount of confidence and pride it gives me. Which is the opposite of what I want. I’m constantly thinking “you are out of your mind even looking at me! I am 90lbs bigger than you and would break you in half!” And I’m still thinking I’d break the females in half, however in a different way...
It goes beyond confidence. And Trest is up their with Tren and the worst of them. You can definitely control any psychotic rage that comes up though but he libido part is ruthless.
Oh well, I just have to work harder at humility, cause I sure as **** am not going to discontinue Trest or other PED’s.
I know right!?!?!Yay!
We gets to be adults now.I know right!?!?!
This is like the biggest thing since... well....Trest....This filthy language in my thread must stop
Only 2 such reasons exist and can be remedied with good measures and research that myself and many others have already done.If one wants to avoid trest he should definitely stay away from this thread you guys are a bad/good influence..lol
Iam not sure I have enough heart to run trest just yet,but thinking I should probably hurry up and get some before God forbid it goes extinct
Yea iam not too concerned about the shutdown aspect as iam 40 already and really dont care much for anymore kids,nor does the thought of trt scares me one bit I mean not trying to rush it but playing how we play is almost inevitable..Its the boob part...It almost seems like a one way ticket to tittyvilla.But I will surely take notes from your layout as most of those I've already considered when the time comes..I was thinking adding mast and proviron starting with a low dose say 10mgs daily..Thanks for the reply thoe its highly appreciatedOnly 2 such reasons exist and can be remedied with good measures and research that myself and many others have already done.
1. Even more suppressive than Deca -
Run Ace, keep cycles under 8 weeks, run clomid or torem concurrently while running Trest(and hcg if so inclined) OR, wait until you are on TRT.
2. Methyl Estrogen sides are too ruthless. - this can be remedied EASILY with extra precaution. **this is the important part**
I have yet to meet someone that legitimately needed prolactin control on Trest. However, just to cover your bases, P5P and L-Dopa are cheap and easy to source and will do the job well.
2 other things are pretty much standard to cover your more important bases: Raloxifene and AI of choice. You need breast specific for the scary stuff, and AI for water retention and the other unpleasants.
My personal guarantee stack is:
Inhibit-P made by SNS - 2-3 caps a day
Raloxifene 30-60mg/day
Letro all the way from 0.625eod to 1.25/day
This stack works so well for estrogen that I personally guarantee it, soooo if it doesn’t work, I promise I will take your remaining Trest off your hands and pay you 40% of its value and also apologize personally for your new man boobs.
Of course. I have not used proviron alongside but I can personally vouch Mast and any and all DHT’s can cut your ancillary support in half. I’ve never had the balls(haha pun intended) to discontinue entirely but it’s a possibility..Yea iam not too concerned about the shutdown aspect as iam 40 already and really dont care much for anymore kids,nor does the thought of trt scares me one bit I mean not trying to rush it but playing how we play is almost inevitable..Its the boob part...It almost seems like a one way ticket to tittyvilla.But I will surely take notes from your layout as most of those I've already considered when the time comes..I was thinking adding mast and proviron starting with a low dose say 10mgs daily..Thanks for the reply thoe its highly appreciated
It’s damn near the perfect steroid if you can reign in estro and water.So one thing I experienced was being warm at the gym, I was flat yesterday and pumped today so it has kicked in. Definitely most water (obviously) or all water I shall say but I really like how you get this tiny bit of endurance and strength by getting some water weight, like creatine but just far more potent.
I'm actually up 1 kg or 2 lbs but that is water mixed with a higher calorie intake. I'm confident I'll see some good results within first week which is quite remarkable.
Yeah it's a bloat cycle but I tend to not bloat that much and the diet is quite low on carbs.It’s damn near the perfect steroid if you can reign in estro and water.
It's one of the strongest anabolics made. ... And half-life depends upon the ester.So it’s got a low half life, high estrogen sides, lots of bloat... how is it any good? I’m failing to see why people like it. Also for people sensitive to estrogen it doesn’t seem worth it?
Ah looks like I need to look in to it more then. I haven’t heard much about it mostly negative stuff. Will research tonight thenIt's one of the strongest anabolics made. ... And half-life depends upon the ester.
I was under the impression that without the enteric coating like that found on primo tabs then the stomach acid would in effect cleave the ester off in the first pass leaving you with trestolone base. .. can you explain to us how one could get around the enteric coatings used in primo tabs (assuming youre talking about pharma tabs)You can take the acetate orally and it will last much longer than unestered oral trest. Just a heads up for all. I’m guessing something like 8-9 hours. Similar to primo ace tabs. But a ton strong, because trest.
What brand of 1 andro was it?My last cycle was Dermatr3st, oral Tr3st preworkout, and some 1 andro. I gained 15 pounds in 6 weeks and assumed that 1 andro did most of it but now I'm beginning to wonder. Lol
Great info here guys!
Olympus LabsWhat brand of 1 andro was it?
ingest it yes.. no problem.. but Ive always heard the methyl group is the only way to extend the action of oralsI don't know anything about Primo enteric coating, but I've always been told (and read) you can ingest Trest Ace with no problems.
Ripper.... I know that you know of one brand that sells this (oral Trest Ace).