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Yeah trest is such a feel good compound, I mean I love the feeling on test as well but trest is pretty special. Ran it with epistane myself and probably underestimated just how good a cycle that was (it was my second).
Ahh that would be fun. One of my favorite cycles in the past was high dosed test, about 800mg/test cyp weekly with 40-50mg epistane daily. I could imagine it being more fun with trest.
 
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The SD must be doing its thing. Getting nightly reflux now, the past few days and am having to down omeprazole.
 
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This thread is all kinds of awesomeness! How does Trest with MSten sound? And would Arimidex and Nolvadex suffice for gyno prevention?

I’m looking at PRO’s Trest Ace by the way. And PitPharma’s MSten.
I stopped using arimidex a while back and prefer suicidal AI’s like aromasin. No rebound with it, and it’s stronger. For compounds like trest, I think I’d stick to aromasin (exemestane) and nolva or ralox.
 
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Yeah trest is such a feel good compound, I mean I love the feeling on test as well but trest is pretty special. Ran it with epistane myself and probably underestimated just how good a cycle that was (it was my second).
I’ve said it in probably 3 threads, epi ran high would be fantastic with Trest. Winnie would be even better. I’ve been grainy and dry on 300 Trest, noticeable fat loss daily, with the right oral on board.
 
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I’ve said it in probably 3 threads, epi ran high would be fantastic with Trest. Winnie would be even better. I’ve been grainy and dry on 300 Trest, noticeable fat loss daily, with the right oral on board.
I’m thinking of staying at maintenance calories for the first 4 weeks of my Trest run in October, then upping calories for the rest of cycle.
 
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So I’ve been carbing up since last night and feel super flat. Wtf? I’m about to order some beef pad Thai with double beef and extra jumbo shrimp thrown in and see if that helps. This is kinda weird.
I was only using 10 mg a day of Superdrol, 150 mg Trest Ace and 300 mg Test E a week, on a recomp and still gaining muscle and losing fat. The muscle and strength building with fat loss, at such low doses, was amazing on that cycle. And at 54 yrs old I’ve seen a lot. And my blood work came back good. That was at the top of my list of one of the best cycles of gains vs sides I’ve ran.
 
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I’m thinking of staying at maintenance calories for the first 4 weeks of my Trest run in October, then upping calories for the rest of cycle.
That’s basically how I did it, but because of the good nutrition partitioning I was able to up calories and still gain while losing fat. I used 10 mg Superdrol to kickstart, the first 4 weeks with Trest and Test, and kept running the Trest and Test 4 more weeks. Then finished 4 weeks with Anavar and Test. Went back to TRT and felt great.
 
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Definitely feeling super solid today after a weekend of carb loading and eating looking forward to the next few weeks.
 
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Definitely feeling super solid today after a weekend of carb loading and eating looking forward to the next few weeks.
Orals take forever to kick for me the last few years. Even Dbol takes till the damn 3rd week to really see really noticeable daily improvements
 
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I've kicked lethargy etc in the a$$ and am having no trouble with gyno so I've doubled the SD to 20mg/day for the next (last) 2 weeks and increased my trest dose by another 75mg/week.
 
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@Renew ever since the update of the site I've lost track on some threads (even my own). What did you say about me running the eq and deca? You want to know how it worked out? I did throw in 300mg eq that i had laying around so hit me with questions if you want :)
 
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Orals take forever to kick for me the last few years. Even Dbol takes till the damn 3rd week to really see really noticeable daily improvements

Its a size thing. Unfortunately for you that cant deal with orals youd probably have to go for the big boy dosages lol. 10mg of sd just wont cut it at your weight for any significant results.
 
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Its a size thing. Unfortunately for you that cant deal with orals youd probably have to go for the big boy dosages lol. 10mg of sd just wont cut it at your weight for any significant results.
Yeah I'm about 235, 6'2, I feel 20mg is better now.
 
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Well I’m back at it.
It’s the same cycle every year. I run Trest Ace as long as I can and I start feeling guilty and switch over to NPP. When I am fully underwhelmed I go back to my only true love: Trest.
So that’s where I’m at. Ordering Wednesday after 9 weeks on NPP.
I have to get over 600npp to equal what I easily gain on 150 Trest.
 
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I am trying to put together a good safe cycle using what I have on hand Trest Ace, Test Cyp, MK-677 injecting every other day ??
 
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I am trying to put together a good safe cycle using what I have on hand Trest Ace, Test Cyp, MK-677 injecting every other day ??
Of course brother.
You have loads of experience.
But if you could add any DHT to that, even just some Var Or a little Mast, I truly believe this it wouldn’t even be tricky to put on significant size and easily lean up 3%, without much diet manipulation.
Don’t know your experience with Trest necessarily but be ready for sweat soaked pillows, libido out of control, and gyno that won’t stop for anything.
 
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Of course brother.
You have loads of experience.
But if you could add any DHT to that, even just some Var Or a little Mast, I truly believe this it wouldn’t even be tricky to put on significant size and easily lean up 3%, without much diet manipulation.
Don’t know your experience with Trest necessarily but be ready for sweat soaked pillows, libido out of control, and gyno that won’t stop for anything.
That’s actually my next blast but with added Var and proviron and still looking for cheap source for MK.
 
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I am trying to put together a good safe cycle using what I have on hand Trest Ace, Test Cyp, MK-677 injecting every other day ??

Sounds right. Just keep trest low and feel it out. You need very little of this as its very potent.
 
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Sounds right. Just keep trest low and feel it out. You need very little of this as its very potent.
I’ve been trying to compare it in some way. And I feel 150 Trest Ace is about 600 NPP
 
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I think I will always run caber now with cycles. Goes well with the increased libido and offers prolactin control whether needed or not.

Never took letro before. Gonna take some learning to get dose dialed in.
 
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I think I will always run caber now with cycles. Goes well with the increased libido and offers prolactin control whether needed or not.

Never took letro before. Gonna take some learning to get dose dialed in.
Ralox is the one thing that hands down controls the gyno for me.
Added dht’s are really helpful too.
 
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I ran trest once and I blew up. Next time I run it I wanna stay dryer so with that In mind are we saying:
Low dose trest
A dht such as sd or var
as anti e/p are we saying Ralox? Or ralox and caber? I hear so many different opinions on what to keep the water down...
 
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I ran trest once and I blew up. Next time I run it I wanna stay dryer so with that In mind are we saying:
Low dose trest
A dht such as sd or var
as anti e/p are we saying Ralox? Or ralox and caber? I hear so many different opinions on what to keep the water down...
I don’t care what anyone says, I run an AI alongside it, if for any reason than to help with the test you’re running as well. They both will aromatize in some way.
But that won’t keep your nipples in check.
Your throw Ralox 30-60/day and some Var and I promise you, you won’t have too terrible of gyno concerns.
Trest Ace gets impossible over 275/week though. I’d recommend all three (AI, breast-specific serm, DHT) bloat and gyno get tough at that point. I do much better with 225 or less, and ralox. DHT is just the icing on the cake and also helps with gyno, but that’s when your gains start to look like a monster dose of Tren.
My extensive use of Trest: Trest +Epi/SD/Msten/Var/Winnie and you will gain more size than Tren and will lose just as much bf and get leaner daily.
Dopamine agonists I’m sure can help, but it’s not always that simple, if monitored aggressively prior, it won’t get to the point where lactation and crazy high prolactin occurs imo. But it can happen and WILL if you aren’t dosing Ralox and AI heavily. These little kiddie doses and you may end up needing the full monty including caber.

Years of Trest use, and I have yet to really need any but a little inhibit P or .025 Prami 1x a week, just for the hell of it though. Keep my bases covered.
 
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Of course brother.
You have loads of experience.
But if you could add any DHT to that, even just some Var Or a little Mast, I truly believe this it wouldn’t even be tricky to put on significant size and easily lean up 3%, without much diet manipulation.
Don’t know your experience with Trest necessarily but be ready for sweat soaked pillows, libido out of control, and gyno that won’t stop for anything.
I have never had any problem with gyno, I ran Trest once before but at only 100mg week. I don't have access to any var. I was thinking 300mg Test + 150 Trest per week with a daily dose of MK-677
 
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I have never had any problem with gyno, I ran Trest once before but at only 100mg week. I don't have access to any var. I was thinking 300mg Test + 150 Trest per week with a daily dose of MK-677
You’ll love it at that dose. I strongly feel it’s one of those drugs at that dose that 8 weeks is where it just starts getting good. VS say NPP where by week 9-10 the gains aren’t as good as the first 2 months. I cruise it as long as I can. 4+ months a year minimum at that exact dose you proposed. Almost no gyno concerns at 150>
I’ve ran it with Msten, dmz, and Superdrol, and it makes a great drug WAY better. Like PB&J.
Even proviron would be great with Trest. It dries it out and really makes it seem like a stronger trenbolone.
But for my next it’s Trest Var Proviron and I’m def picking up that RUI MK. They are amazing with the deals lately. They should just keep prices there and they will get so much more business.
 
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I am trying to put together a good safe cycle using what I have on hand Trest Ace, Test Cyp, MK-677 injecting every other day ??
I like pinning ace every day. A DHT added to this like Matthersby was saying would be nice.
 
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On 20mg of SD daily (or more), how are y’all holding down your food during the day, especially at the gym? I get moments where I want to vomit all over. Will Dramamine work, or anything else? I guess I also should’ve been using TUDCA on this run but oh well. My urine isn’t dark and I haven’t used orals in years and I don’t drink.

Edit: in the evenings, mary jane sorts out my nausea / appetite. Need something for daytime
 
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Btw, now that I'm on 20mg SD daily, I've also upped my trest ace dose to 210mg/week (while still using 200mg/week of NPP). I worked shoulders and chest today and my shoulder pumps were almost crippling/unbearable.
 
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Btw, now that I'm on 20mg SD daily, I've also upped my trest ace dose to 210mg/week (while still using 200mg/week of NPP). I worked shoulders and chest today and my shoulder pumps were almost crippling/unbearable.
Gawd that SD/NPP/Trest combo just sounds sexy af.
 
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That’s it, I’m switching my SD dosing to pre-bed / night time because I feel like absolute trash after dosing. I wake up feeling great from trest but the SD absolutely ruins my day.
 

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Lower the dose to 10mg, feel better and still great.
 
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Of course brother.
You have loads of experience.
But if you could add any DHT to that, even just some Var Or a little Mast, I truly believe this it wouldn’t even be tricky to put on significant size and easily lean up 3%, without much diet manipulation.
Don’t know your experience with Trest necessarily but be ready for sweat soaked pillows, libido out of control, and gyno that won’t stop for anything.
@Matthersby What do you think would be a good dose of Var to go with this ??
 
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Lower the dose to 10mg, feel better and still great.
Only a week left and getting my best results right now. I didn’t dose at all today yet I still had waves of nausea. Going to take my 20mg of SD with some food and go to bed. Just going to suck it up for the last week and won’t touch the stuff again.
 
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Only a week left and getting my best results right now. I didn’t dose at all today yet I still had waves of nausea. Going to take my 20mg of SD with some food and go to bed. Just going to suck it up for the last week and won’t touch the stuff again.
Ha! I said that every one of the 5 times I’ve ran SD. 🤮
 
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Wanna see something just gorgeous?
My recomp cycle that starts the minute I get labs back next month.

Trest Ace - 150mg/week
Dienolone E 450/week
Winstrol 60mg/day
Proviron 50mg/day
Low dose T3

If I’m feeling froggy enough, I may throw in NPP 175-275mg/week.
 
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Only a week left and getting my best results right now. I didn’t dose at all today yet I still had waves of nausea. Going to take my 20mg of SD with some food and go to bed. Just going to suck it up for the last week and won’t touch the stuff again.
Switch to injectable sd
 
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Only a week left and getting my best results right now. I didn’t dose at all today yet I still had waves of nausea. Going to take my 20mg of SD with some food and go to bed. Just going to suck it up for the last week and won’t touch the stuff again.
Switch to injectable sd
 
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Switch to injectable sd
Keep promising myself I’ll try it. Even have 2 sources for it(when they aren’t sold out)
People claiming they can run 30+ with full appetite and minimal lethargy.
 
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Keep promising myself I’ll try it. Even have 2 sources for it(when they aren’t sold out)
People claiming they can run 30+ with full appetite and minimal lethargy.
I can do that on 30 oral. At least I used to. Havnt used any orals in 4 years. I got 2 buddies on injectable sd right now taking 30 a day no issues. They won't sell me any cus I just got back on and they keep telling me stick basic **** till I get back where I was. Fakin jerks lol my other source don't carry it:/
 
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Ha! I said that every one of the 5 times I’ve ran SD. 🤮
I’ve stopped my last week short today. I can’t afford to feel this way, with sub par eating and sub par workouts. Stuff is toxic... I’ll keep on cruising on trest + npp.
 
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Wanna see something just gorgeous?
My recomp cycle that starts the minute I get labs back next month.

Trest Ace - 150mg/week
Dienolone E 450/week
Winstrol 60mg/day
Proviron 50mg/day
Low dose T3

If I’m feeling froggy enough, I may throw in NPP 175-275mg/week.
That cycle looks nice. NPP on top of the dien though would make me manic and sleepless from day 1
 

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