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May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. GMG760's Mdrol cycle

I am drooling over my mdrol. I have plenty of Pplex, so that will probably be my next compound to run.

Which Tren compound are you talking about...

There is the Trenadrol compound - 17b-methoxy-Trienbolone: 3mg which looks scary as all hell...
There is the Dien Drone compound, which is Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione
and there is the Xtreme Tren - which is 19-Norandrosta 4,9 diene- 3,17 dione

Those seem to be the three compounds that are called "tren" by designers...

I have a bottle of the latter, the 19-nor.

I am really looking forward to that one, but I hear about really weird side effects from "tren".

To be honest, I am really looking forward to running the Hdrol that I have. But Mdrol first. :twisted:

I was referring to the Oral Tren that ThunderGod was taking. I don't think I am ready for the potential negatives associated with that. I have heard good and bad things about Tren as well, but it is too confusing to figure out which is which. Plus I know M-Drol is great. I have heard P-Plex is good, but I figure it is better to go with something I know is a great compound.
 
I was referring to the Oral Tren that ThunderGod was taking. I don't think I am ready for the potential negatives associated with that. I have heard good and bad things about Tren as well, but it is too confusing to figure out which is which. Plus I know M-Drol is great. I have heard P-Plex is good, but I figure it is better to go with something I know is a great compound.

Yea, the real methyl tren is nothing you should be messing around with.

Mdrol is great, but you might not be as responsive the second time as the first... in that regard, you might have better luck running phera this go around... but then again if I were you I would stick to the dry compounds.
 
Silver, I would recommend a moderate dosed H-Drol run with a SLIGHT calorie surplus next go around.

I'd love to see someone run that sh*t that doesn't go overboard on the food (like yo' boy Timber).
 
Silver, I would recommend a moderate dosed H-Drol run with a SLIGHT calorie surplus next go around.

I'd love to see someone run that sh*t that doesn't go overboard on the food (like yo' boy Timber).

First of all, Fuk moderation. :icon_lol: I am just not sure I would be happy starting with M-Drol, then Epi and going to a more mild compound with less gain potential like H-Drol. I do have some time to figure it out though. If I did H-Drol would you recommend a 4 or 6 week cycle?
 
First of all, Fuk moderation. :icon_lol: I am just not sure I would be happy starting with M-Drol, then Epi and going to a more mild compound with less gain potential like H-Drol. I do have some time to figure it out though. If I did H-Drol would you recommend a 4 or 6 week cycle?


5 to 6 weeks... Definitely not 4. You'll likely do better with a NEW mild compound as opposed to a second run on M-Drol... but I could be wrong about that.
 
First of all, Fuk moderation. :icon_lol: I am just not sure I would be happy starting with M-Drol, then Epi and going to a more mild compound with less gain potential like H-Drol. I do have some time to figure it out though. If I did H-Drol would you recommend a 4 or 6 week cycle?

Hdrol has the same gain potential... just a 6 week cycle versus a 3 weeker.
 
So today I went into the gym to do some abs and cardio... so I am sitting there stretching and the door to the aerobics class is open and my redhead dreamgirl from last log was there doing kickboxing aerobics... and I swear to god this song came on the radio. I think I sat there and just stared for the entire song. Glorious.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHz9VJ5eAPQ"]YouTube - Let me see your hips swing (dirty) - Savage (with lyrics)[/ame]
 
Hdrol has the same gain potential... just a 6 week cycle versus a 3 weeker.

After reading some reviews of XTREME TREN on another site, I am damn tempted to use that as my next cycle stacked with H-Drol. That would allow me to control to use H-Drol and get a kick from the TREN. If I experience any sides I can adjust the mg as needed.
 
After reading some reviews of XTREME TREN on another site, I am damn tempted to use that as my next cycle stacked with H-Drol. That would allow me to control to use H-Drol and get a kick from the TREN. If I experience any sides I can adjust the mg as needed.

I have a bottle of the Xtreme Tren... I am really tempted to use it too... I dunno what I am gonna run it with... probably something along the lines of Hdrol or maybe something unmethylated... I think Tren would be better for your goals than Pplex... just be careful with the progestin sides.
 
lol... all this talk of tren. i got 7 bottles before the summer ban, just in case. definitely an insanely fun run. my supp closet is retarded.
 
Lol, dude... that's my squat song.

Can we please do a kickboxing aerobics class? I want to see the chicks in there. Plus I think I remember how to kick.
 
Lol, dude... that's my squat song.

Can we please do a kickboxing aerobics class? I want to see the chicks in there. Plus I think I remember how to kick.

A kickboxing aerobics class on mdrol... :lol:
 
After reading some reviews of XTREME TREN on another site, I am damn tempted to use that as my next cycle stacked with H-Drol. That would allow me to control to use H-Drol and get a kick from the TREN. If I experience any sides I can adjust the mg as needed.
I think you would like that stack a lot Silver. I've stacked the ALRI Methoxy TRN with Phera before and loved it. I have 1 bottle of it left in stash and a bottle of the Estra compound clone. You and G-Money have the 19-Nor compound. So we'll get to report to each other the way each compound affects us. Sweeeeet!! :head:
 
By the way, I can guarantee that you guys would like the 17b-methoxy-trienbolone structure. I haven't used Trenadrol, but the ALRI Methoxy TRN that I have used twice in the past, kicks fukkin' ass!! It's a feel-good strength compound!
 
By the way, I can guarantee that you guys would like the 17b-methoxy-trienbolone structure. I haven't used Trenadrol, but the ALRI Methoxy TRN that I have used twice in the past, kicks fukkin' ass!! It's a feel-good strength compound!

Yea, but what about the sides...
 
lol... all this talk of tren. i got 7 bottles before the summer ban, just in case. definitely an insanely fun run. my supp closet is retarded.

7 bottles? Dude, that's a lot of Tren. I thought I had a problem... lol.
 
my bad...you know I'm in on this!

DSR subbed!
 
So Rob, our buddy Timber is gonna be in town the weekend before thanksgiving... You should come hit a workout with us!

If I'm in town then I'm def gonna have to cruise up there to hit the iron! maybe you guys could also come see my gym and show the guys down here what a real workout is!

I'll stock up on some cool-aid for TL too!
 
If I'm in town then I'm def gonna have to cruise up there to hit the iron! maybe you guys could also come see my gym and show the guys down here what a real workout is!

I'll stock up on some cool-aid for TL too!

I do love Kool Aid.

Where's your gym? I'd love to scare some people there too. :head:
 
Yea, but what about the sides...
I've only used it twice before, but no bad sides either time. Other than acne and anger. LOL I love that sh!t. Super-Drol is a stronger compound and will cause greater mass gains. But the 17b-methoxy-trienbolone structure "feels" better and is even better for strength gains IMO. You also get those nice androgenic sides of aggression which I know you like. This sh!t is like MMV2 X 3 at least. I feel like a monster when I run that stuff!!! :twisted:
 
I've only used it twice before, but no bad sides either time. Other than acne and anger. LOL I love that sh!t. Super-Drol is a stronger compound and will cause greater mass gains. But the 17b-methoxy-trienbolone structure "feels" better and is even better for strength gains IMO. You also get those nice androgenic sides of aggression which I know you like. This sh!t is like MMV2 X 3 at least. I feel like a monster when I run that stuff!!! :twisted:
what do you think about doing SD on a cut T-God? I see everyone and their cousin doing bulks with SD, Im thinking about doin a cut w/it...???:duel:
 
what do you think about doing SD on a cut T-God? I see everyone and their cousin doing bulks with SD, Im thinking about doin a cut w/it...???:duel:

TG and I have voiced our opinions on cutting with anabolics several times.

This anabolic particularly would be especially stupid.
 
TG and I have voiced our opinions on cutting with anabolics several times.

This anabolic particularly would be especially stupid.
True dat!! SD would be a waste if not used for at least a good clean bulk. And Timber is right. We've already told you that you don't need anabolics to cut. It's all about diet, cardio, and proper supplementation. We don't change our minds so quickly. No offense, tomcat.
 
what do you think about doing SD on a cut T-God? I see everyone and their cousin doing bulks with SD, Im thinking about doin a cut w/it...???:duel:

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Ok, Superdrol is a CARBOHYDRATE MONSTER Tom. You need CARBOHYDRATES to battle lethargy, you need CARBOHYDRATES to see it's mass gains. What do you need for an effective cut? You have to CUT YOUR CARBOHYDRATES. See the flaw in logic?

If you tried to cut on Superdrol you would have the worst case of lethargy ever. You would see little gains compared to probably a ton of sides.

Here is something to think about. These compounds we are taking, they have been around for a few years now. Pro-Hormones/Steroids have been around for nearly a decade now. Real juice has been around for 50 some-odd years. The people who develop these compounds are f*cking organic chemists. IE: These people making the compounds aren't stupid. Nor are a lot of the people who have logged these compounds, they are often the very same people.

Now, if cutting on superdrol was a good idea, don't you think that these fairly intelligent people who have came up with the dosing and "general requirements" for running the compound would have already logged cutting cycles, like you see with Hdrol? I'd say you would have seen a "superdrol cutting cycle" sticky by now if it had worked. You know Tom, I am glad you are thinking for yourself... but Bro, seriously, you arn't gonna be breaking any new ground in Pro-Steroid cycling and usage... follow what has "worked before" and is deemed a fairly effective (I won't go so far as to say safe) route when taking a substance like superdrol!!!

Go with the flow dude. Stop being a jackass and do your research and use compounds for what they are meant for: BULKING. There is no easy way to cut. You just stop eating junk and run your ass off. It is that simple, but I know it is really hard at the same time. Steroids won't make you cut... in fact it will probably make things more difficult down the road. Get down to 10% BF naturally. I think that is a great goal for you, and you should do it with just some diet, a fat burner, and some good old fashioned windsprints-till-you-puke cardio.:head:
 
I didnt mean it to sound like I was going to use a steroid to cut, only at the end of my cut, do a cycle, it is pretty pointless to cut on Superdrol, everything Ive read clearly says its a carb monster...just I saw this one thread that mentioned using SD in a cut, which got me interested, thats all, but thanx for the 411 boys!
 
I didnt mean it to sound like I was going to use a steroid to cut, only at the end of my cut, do a cycle, it is pretty pointless to cut on Superdrol, everything Ive read clearly says its a carb monster...just I saw this one thread that mentioned using SD in a cut, which got me interested, thats all, but thanx for the 411 boys!

Tom, not to be a ****... wait, I am one... :lol:

You DID mean to say you were using a steroid to cut. Just pull your foot out of your mouth and move on.

I honestly think this bulk and cut sh*t is tossed around too lightly... get big, get lean, find a place where you're happy - then f*cking stay there.
 
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Ok, Superdrol is a CARBOHYDRATE MONSTER Tom. You need CARBOHYDRATES to battle lethargy, you need CARBOHYDRATES to see it's mass gains. What do you need for an effective cut? You have to CUT YOUR CARBOHYDRATES. See the flaw in logic?

If you tried to cut on Superdrol you would have the worst case of lethargy ever. You would see little gains compared to probably a ton of sides.

Here is something to think about. These compounds we are taking, they have been around for a few years now. Pro-Hormones/Steroids have been around for nearly a decade now. Real juice has been around for 50 some-odd years. The people who develop these compounds are f*cking organic chemists. IE: These people making the compounds aren't stupid. Nor are a lot of the people who have logged these compounds, they are often the very same people.

Now, if cutting on superdrol was a good idea, don't you think that these fairly intelligent people who have came up with the dosing and "general requirements" for running the compound would have already logged cutting cycles, like you see with Hdrol? I'd say you would have seen a "superdrol cutting cycle" sticky by now if it had worked. You know Tom, I am glad you are thinking for yourself... but Bro, seriously, you arn't gonna be breaking any new ground in Pro-Steroid cycling and usage... follow what has "worked before" and is deemed a fairly effective (I won't go so far as to say safe) route when taking a substance like superdrol!!!

Go with the flow dude. Stop being a jackass and do your research and use compounds for what they are meant for: BULKING. There is no easy way to cut. You just stop eating junk and run your ass off. It is that simple, but I know it is really hard at the same time. Steroids won't make you cut... in fact it will probably make things more difficult down the road. Get down to 10% BF naturally. I think that is a great goal for you, and you should do it with just some diet, a fat burner, and some good old fashioned windsprints-till-you-puke cardio.:head:

Actualy no offense but i disagree, i used Superdrol on a cut, and it works, why do proffesional bodybuilders stay on during a cut...ok so they use what you call real juice, superdrol is a steroid, and its real, and its very anabolic,and you will preserve more muscle, like TG said yes its down to diet and cardio, etc, but you cant get away from the fact that the more anabolic you are the greater the amount of muscle kept during a cut.
I think that if somone wants to use a steroid on a cut then he has to be disciplined, to keep his gains, cutting using a stim, or a fat burner wont insure you keep your gains bro, i know because its my job.
Superdrol is one of the best steroids to use on a cut for the very reason you said its not, because it stores glycogen in the muscle cells, and pulls water and nutrients in, by lowering the amount of carbs you eat slightly, and by reducing the amount of calories you consume, while keeping protein intake high, and adding cardio, you will actualy gain muscle mass in most cases as you cut , wich is what i did. You havent had much experience with M-drol yet but you will learn its very versatile, and if you keep the dosage low, you dont get lethargy and bad sides, and most sides can be prevented anyway with a little fore thought. Vitamin c 5 grams per day, dessicated liver for lethargy, 1-carboxy, l-dopa, bromo, a few for prolactin sides, you can get sides with anything not just steroids.
Everyone is entitled to there opinions, and lots of people say dont use a steroid on a cut...but it works if used properly.

Russian
 
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Go with the flow dude. Stop being a jackass and do your research and use compounds for what they are meant for: BULKING. There is no easy way to cut. You just stop eating junk and run your ass off. It is that simple, but I know it is really hard at the same time. Steroids won't make you cut... in fact it will probably make things more difficult down the road. Get down to 10% BF naturally. I think that is a great goal for you, and you should do it with just some diet, a fat burner, and some good old fashioned windsprints-till-you-puke cardio.:head:


Guess who the jackass is, the person who calls somone a jackass for asking a question...why are we here...to learn and help, not make people feel bad for asking..what an idiot.
 
Guess who the jackass is, the person who calls somone a jackass for asking a question...why are we here...to learn and help, not make people feel bad for asking..what an idiot.

Easy Russian... I understand your motive above - introducing Superdrol on a cut... My issue with it is - some guys will misinterpret your thread and use it on a calorie defecit with no other preparation thinking they will get cut up immediately. TomKat does NOT have his diet in check properly for any kind of cut at the moment - anabolic or not. He'll be twisting himself through a cut for 3 weeks, maintain it for 2 weeks, and be back on here wondering what kind of steroid he can take in two months to get back down to 10% BF. Using steroids to cut is a necessity for bodybuilders and models, I think it should be steered clear of for the 'casual' user - unless they fully understand all the puzzle pieces that need to be in place for the protocol to be safe, effective, and MAINTAINABLE...

You know I respect your opinions immensely - just throwing my hat in the ring as well.
 
exactly! what does the top of the site say learn, teach, lead!

BBII
GJJ

I respect this as well. Just find me a post where TomKat has done either of these three. Its more like Spread False rumors about CEL, repeat questions over and over again, not listen...

I like TomKat, otherwise I wouldn't talk to him - but he definitely has a twiste case of ADD. I think GMG gets as frustrated as I do...

Everyone put down their sticks - group hug time.
 
Guess who the jackass is, the person who calls somone a jackass for asking a question...why are we here...to learn and help, not make people feel bad for asking..what an idiot.

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*takes a long deep breath and counts to 10*

I have respect for you Russian, so thanks for your knowledge.

As far as Tom is concerned, Mdrol on a cut would be a horrible idea. I still back this claim. I know that there are many different uses for each of these compounds, however I maintain that using steroids for a cut isn't the right way to go about things, and although it may be necessary or at least the easy way for 250+ lbs bodybuilders to keep muscle whilst cutting down to 5-6%BF, not many people that are reading this log are 250+lbs pro bodybuilders. These people SHOULD NOT be using steroids for a cut, why on earth would you use steroids for a cut if you arn't cutting for a contest?! The results aren't gonna stay. One would simply be doing damage to their body for a few weeks of a good body? If one can't get down to a proper BF% naturally, they arn't going to stay there if they use steroids to get there! I will never agree with you on this topic, so we might as well drop it.

Now, Comparing a cut that you ran on super to a MUCH less experienced and MUCH less informed Tomkat is not fair at all. For him to run such a cycle would be possible if not likely disaster IMO. Just because someone has an idea, even an idea that works, it may not be the right idea for them. And, maybe you haven't noticed this yet, while Tom is my homie, he often says things/brings up cycles/compounds without the backing research. There are people on here, that when we are talking about steroids, that I feel that over-information can lead to bad decisions in beginners. I would hate to be the guy who goes: "sure you can do it!" and have someone wind up hurting themselves from my advice. If someone wants to cut on Super, they need to go do the research themselves, not just ask some opinions on a bulking log.

I personally don't think Tom should be using Mdrol yet. I don't feel he has done enough research or is ready for the potential side effects. But that is just my opinion, and that is all I can give to Tom.

BTW, Tom is my friend, I can call my friends Jackasses, Motherf*ckers, Assh*les, D*ckweeds, or whatever else I choose to call them. They can call me names too, it's friendly, we're boys, nobody is gonna cry over it, it's just how I am. Timber is probably my best friend on this forum and I call him names all the time. Lighten up.

I'm gonna ask you a favor now, because I value your opinion and knowledge, but please have some respect and don't come back here calling me out when you don't have the context of my previous conversations/relationship with people I am talking to. This is my thread, I am not out on someone else's thread telling them what to do or misinterpreting their conversations with their buddies. If you have your opinion, then great let's hear it, but let's not make things personal because I don't know you that well, which means you obviously don't know me that well.
 
exactly! what does the top of the site say learn, teach, lead!

BBII
GJJ

That is what I am doing dude. Telling Tom to cut on Superdrol would be leading him down the wrong path IMO. Sorry you guys disagree, but I was teaching him what I believed. I don't believe that either of you have any prior context to our relationship with Tom.
 
Guess who the jackass is, the person who calls somone a jackass for asking a question...why are we here...to learn and help, not make people feel bad for asking..what an idiot.

BTW, if calling Tom a jackass for not doing his research on steroids is being an idiot, I'll let you give him all the bad advice you want, and you can be the genius that gets him hurt from your "friendly" advice.

Sometimes people need a wake-up call. Sorry if my foul language offended you. I'll try to speak as affluently as mary poppins next time if my "name-calling" hurt your feelings.

Just to make all of you sensitive types feel better :

Dearest Tom,

I really think that you should re-evaluate your perceptions on the use of the steroidal compound mdrol for the use of a cut in bodyfat. I do not believe that it would be a safe venture for you and your health. In my most honest opinion, I believe that you should only use such strong compounds for bulking, and cutting using anabolic compounds is very dangerous. I hope my opinions don't hurt your feelings, because that would make me oh so sad. I hope that you are having a wonderful day, and please do take care.

PS. Let's all have a tea party after we go lift.

Your pal,
GMG
 
I love happy endings ..teehee
 
Now that was so much sweeter. I'm still waiting on that group hug by the way. :lol: I need to go slay a frost giant or something. All of this kindness is killing me!! :aargh::rant::frustrate
 
Hey GM i want to officialy apolagize , firstly, i did misunderstand the nature of your post in reply to tom, I dont want there to be any hard feeling here, and i do feel bad about what i said, i respect you to bro, and i have enjoyed your posts.
You have a good friend in timberlakers, and he has since shown me that i made a mistake, So i am very sorry, and hope that we dont have any hard feelings, you are right, tom does need to get his diet in order.
I think because of my culture, and i understand now, name calling is very personal, and i hate it when its meant to be unkind, i understand now however that it was meant not in the way i thought.
I am not overly sensitive bro, but i dont feel the need to make other people feel small or belittle them, i dont need to to make myself feel better than them.

GM please accept this as a sincere and heartfelt sorry, hope your cycle goes well, sorry to anyone else who was offended by my outburst also. Russian
 
Hey GM i want to officialy apolagize , firstly, i did misunderstand the nature of your post in reply to tom, I dont want there to be any hard feeling here, and i do feel bad about what i said, i respect you to bro, and i have enjoyed your posts.
You have a good friend in timberlakers, and he has since shown me that i made a mistake, So i am very sorry, and hope that we dont have any hard feelings, you are right, tom does need to get his diet in order.
I think because of my culture, and i understand now, name calling is very personal, and i hate it when its meant to be unkind, i understand now however that it was meant not in the way i thought.
I am not overly sensitive bro, but i dont feel the need to make other people feel small or belittle them, i dont need to to make myself feel better than them.

GM please accept this as a sincere and heartfelt sorry, hope your cycle goes well, sorry to anyone else who was offended by my outburst also. Russian

apology accepted!

lol
GJJ
 
I'm getting moist..sniffsniff
 
wow guys...IDK wut to say, thanx!! for the ones who know me and my ADD well...I have been going through alot of stress at school and been "finding" myself, I know it sounds weird, but Im a bio-psyc major and the things Im learning are conflicting with the things Im thinking and also learning else where...but I have started to research for myself, I want to truly understand the way these compounds work on the body and their chemistry, I also feel that a rude awakening is needed here and there to get us back in line or on track, it may just be me but I feel that we all lose sight of our goals from time to time. Also...my diet is out of whack right now because I am unemployed and have only the school's cafeteria to my disposal, and my schedule is all fukked up due to the semester almost ending, but overall thanx for all the info...instead of tea and crompets, how about some good ole milk w/a PB&J (all natty PB and sugar free jelly of course, on wheat bread)
 
:blink:

*takes a long deep breath and counts to 10*

I have respect for you Russian, so thanks for your knowledge.

As far as Tom is concerned, Mdrol on a cut would be a horrible idea. I still back this claim. I know that there are many different uses for each of these compounds, however I maintain that using steroids for a cut isn't the right way to go about things, and although it may be necessary or at least the easy way for 250+ lbs bodybuilders to keep muscle whilst cutting down to 5-6%BF, not many people that are reading this log are 250+lbs pro bodybuilders. These people SHOULD NOT be using steroids for a cut, why on earth would you use steroids for a cut if you arn't cutting for a contest?! The results aren't gonna stay. One would simply be doing damage to their body for a few weeks of a good body? If one can't get down to a proper BF% naturally, they arn't going to stay there if they use steroids to get there! I will never agree with you on this topic, so we might as well drop it.

Now, Comparing a cut that you ran on super to a MUCH less experienced and MUCH less informed Tomkat is not fair at all. For him to run such a cycle would be possible if not likely disaster IMO. Just because someone has an idea, even an idea that works, it may not be the right idea for them. And, maybe you haven't noticed this yet, while Tom is my homie, he often says things/brings up cycles/compounds without the backing research. There are people on here, that when we are talking about steroids, that I feel that over-information can lead to bad decisions in beginners. I would hate to be the guy who goes: "sure you can do it!" and have someone wind up hurting themselves from my advice. If someone wants to cut on Super, they need to go do the research themselves, not just ask some opinions on a bulking log.

I personally don't think Tom should be using Mdrol yet. I don't feel he has done enough research or is ready for the potential side effects. But that is just my opinion, and that is all I can give to Tom.

BTW, Tom is my friend, I can call my friends Jackasses, Motherf*ckers, Assh*les, D*ckweeds, or whatever else I choose to call them. They can call me names too, it's friendly, we're boys, nobody is gonna cry over it, it's just how I am. Timber is probably my best friend on this forum and I call him names all the time. Lighten up.

I'm gonna ask you a favor now, because I value your opinion and knowledge, but please have some respect and don't come back here calling me out when you don't have the context of my previous conversations/relationship with people I am talking to. This is my thread, I am not out on someone else's thread telling them what to do or misinterpreting their conversations with their buddies. If you have your opinion, then great let's hear it, but let's not make things personal because I don't know you that well, which means you obviously don't know me that well.
How do you figure?
 
How do you figure?

You really have to ask?

You think running a highly anabolic compound and not having a strict diet will lead to maintainable BF loss?

I say just let this one die... Caused enough trouble for the day, and it seems as peace is restored.
 
Agreed, enough with the catabolic talk, lets get anabolic again.
 
You really have to ask?

You think running a highly anabolic compound and not having a strict diet will lead to maintainable BF loss?

I say just let this one die... Caused enough trouble for the day, and it seems as peace is restored.
Well he didn't say anything about diet , diet is everything. But how are you going to lose your progress just because you used anabolics. It has to do with diet and cardio. Anabolics just help you out.
 
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