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MassMax XT - Product Write Up

Count me in. I've had success with Ecdy/laxo in the past and this is the best loooking profile I've seen thus far on a product of the category IMO. Awesome to see a great company giving real RCE extracts a go :)
 
I am very interested too. Turkesterone treats me well and I currently have nice results with RCE standardized to 80% edcy. But I run it at about a gram/day.

Pretty interested how the lower dose of RCE, epi, etc. would work. I will definitely try it out as I am ecdy believer (at least for my type of goals, workout plan, etc.)
 
GiftedNatty said:
Count me in. I've had success with Ecdy/laxo in the past and this is the best loooking profile I've seen thus far on a product of the category IMO. Awesome to see a great company giving real RCE extracts a go :)
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Really looking forward to your feedback, think your really like this if you have enjoyed Ecdy in the past, I feel like we have really perfected Ecdy with this specific extract and the combination with permeation enhancement.

mbonheur said:
I am very interested too. Turkesterone treats me well and I currently have nice results with RCE standardized to 80% edcy. But I run it at about a gram/day.

Pretty interested how the lower dose of RCE, epi, etc. would work. I will definitely try it out as I am ecdy believer (at least for my type of goals, workout plan, etc.)
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From our research its likely 80% is too high as its minimizing the presence of other active ecdysteroids like Polypodyne B. Also be combining Ecdysterone with a permeation enhancer the effects of Ecdy should be significantly stronger!

BlackTiger22 said:
another great looking natty anabolic option
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Thanks for the support!
 
Sounds like you guys really focused on making Ecdysterone effective and are using a great extract. I wonder if I should combine this with the Mass Pro synthagen I have lying around.
 
AdelV said:
It's late December...... ?
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Drove up to Hillside Manor sometime after two a.m.
And talked a little while about the year
I guess the winter makes you laugh a little slower,
Makes you talk a little lower about the things you could not show her

And it's been a long December and there's reason to believe
Maybe this year will be better than the last
I can't remember all the times I tried to tell my myself
To hold on to these moments as they pass....

Idk but that song popped in my head as soon as you posted about December.
 
The researchers suspect that methyl palmitate and methyl oleate stimulate the production of DHEA in the adrenal glands. This hormone can then be converted into testosterone.
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So should users be wary of possible estrogen increases that typically accompany dhea boosting ingredients?
 
chedapalooza said:
The researchers suspect that methyl palmitate and methyl oleate stimulate the production of DHEA in the adrenal glands. This hormone can then be converted into testosterone.
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So should users be wary of possible estrogen increases that typically accompany dhea boosting ingredients?
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Should not worry at all
 
The coupon code wasn't active until 8am PST for some reason, our apologies but it works now. Also there should be international shipping.
 
jt75 said:
Why should we not worry?
Are you saying for definite that estrogen won't rise as the dhea converts in testosterone?
Just fishing for info
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I think he was going that I won't increase dhea that much do e2 rise would t be much and also people are WWWAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY to concerned with estrogen. It is not your enemy.
 
rtmilburn said:
I think he was going that I won't increase dhea that much do e2 rise would t be much and also people are WWWAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY to concerned with estrogen. It is not your enemy.
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Didn't say it was my enemy was just asking why he sounded so certain telling op not to worry. Thanks anyway ?
 
Yea I would not worry about any potential to raise estrogen, it would have to be a significant increase in DHEA to have any noticeable effect. Additionally Atractylodes may have some anti-aromotase properties as well, so even if there was a slight increase in DHEA it would likely be controlled by Atractylodes.
 
Adizzle1 said:
Yea I would not worry about any potential to raise estrogen, it would have to be a significant increase in DHEA to have any noticeable effect. Additionally Atractylodes may have some anti-aromotase properties as well, so even if there was a slight increase in DHEA it would likely be controlled by Atractylodes.
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And that's the active in letrone which I run Year
Round for trt/estrogen management purposes sooo alright ?
 
chedapalooza said:
And that's the active in letrone which I run Year
Round for trt/estrogen management purposes sooo alright ��
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Its actually slightly different but does contain atractylenolides which is the constituent responsible for AI in both extracts however our extract focus is more on atractylodin. So there is definitely some anti-aromatase effect but likely not as significant as in letrone as the extracts are geared towards different purposes.
 
jt75 said:
Didn't say it was my enemy was just asking why he sounded so certain telling op not to worry. Thanks anyway ?
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Well people shouldn't be using ais unless the are on roids that aromatize or have blood work proving high e honestly
 
rtmilburn said:
Well people shouldn't be using ais unless the are on roids that aromatize or have blood work proving high e honestly
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Quite true but as you know some people will still hop on an ai just to dry out a bit and lean up when they aren't even on cycle
 
I posted on another massmax thread about the source genus RCE being the best ecdysterone genus but the active used is 20H
which im told is poor, shame cos I was looking forward to this ?
 
jt75 said:
I posted on another massmax thread about the source genus RCE being the best ecdysterone genus but the active used is 20H
which im told is poor, shame cos I was looking forward to this ?
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For clarification from the other thread on MassMax XT.



Adizzle1 said:
I respectfully disagree, we have been doing tons of research on this material for nearly a year now and the major point is Full Spectrum RCE outperforms any 1 isolated compound and the research is very clear on this, so when he states we extracted the wrong ecdysterone, I find this incorrect as a full spectrum will always be superior. All Ecdysterones are present in this extract, however for quality and consistency purposes we did a small standardization to 20-HE which is clearly the most active ecdysterone. It was important to have a full spectrum because of other constituents in the material including nitrogen-bearing alkaloids, larger triterpenes, etc So again I disagree that we should be standerdizing for some different compound when the real point is full spectrum.

Futhermore when he says 20-h is just a bust orally etc. he is speaking to pure 20-h which this is not, and again in research it has shown the full spectrum to be superior to anyone individual compound, which could be due to 20-HE as a pure compound having poor bioavailbility. Lastly, Ecdysterone is a BCS class III compoud meaning it has high solubility and low permeation. We included a very effective intenstinal permeation enhancer to overcome this downfall leading to significant increase in bioavailablity of all ecdysterones.

I would agree with him if we were talking about a pure 20-HE extract, which is why so many ecdy products have failed. However this is completely different and the goal here is to provide a full spectrum of ecdysterones with a small standardization to one for consistency and quality purposes. Pair this superior extract with enhanced permeation, which is likely a huge limiting factor for the effectivness of ecdy, and you have an incredibly quality product.
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Just trying to keep both threads updated with correct info.
 
jt75 said:
I posted on another massmax thread about the source genus RCE being the best ecdysterone genus but the active used is 20H
which im told is poor, shame cos I was looking forward to this ��
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Rhaponticum/Leuzea is far from just 20-HE. It is the complex of MANY ecdysteroids such as (cyasterone,ponasterone ,amarasterone A crustecdysone, polypodin B++++)which makes synergy effect.
 
rtmilburn said:
Well people shouldn't be using ais unless the are on roids that aromatize or have blood work proving high e honestly
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Agreed 100%. Many people don't realize that estrogen has a key role in libido. Sometimes when I'm on a supplement that claims to control estrogen, my libido will suffer. Not always though. Product dependent :)
 
R1balla said:
Agreed 100%. Many people don't realize that estrogen has a key role in libido. Sometimes when I'm on a supplement that claims to control estrogen, my libido will suffer. Not always though. Product dependent :)
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I use clomid bursts for trt so I do get estrogen spikes
 
Finishing up a bulk and seems like this might be good for general recovery and muscle maintenance on maintenance calories for a month before moving into slight deficit.

Possibly stacked with a td laxo product?

Thoughts?
 
JDybya said:
Finishing up a bulk and seems like this might be good for general recovery and muscle maintenance on maintenance calories for a month before moving into slight deficit.

Possibly stacked with a td laxo product?

Thoughts?
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No need to stack with anything. It already has multiple ingredients.
 
JDybya said:
Finishing up a bulk and seems like this might be good for general recovery and muscle maintenance on maintenance calories for a month before moving into slight deficit.

Possibly stacked with a td laxo product?

Thoughts?
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I would run it solo first so you can see how it works by itself. From the beta testers we had, it seems like it would be fine as a standalone for your goals.
 
Has this gone out yet or are there any new logs out?

I'm trying to decide if I wanna run this with Origin and Triumph after Anabeta Elite runs out. I need to get some money to restock the staples for the next couple months, but I'm still interested in following along.
 
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