MassFX / Hyperdrol on a cut

DentonNH

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I've tries searching and I'm sure it has been asked before, but I can't seen to find the answer.

I've got a bottle of MassFX and a bottle of Hyperdrol2. But right now I'm on a cut. I was wondering if I would be able to gain any muscle mass while on a cut if using these products. I know that typically, it's virtually impossible. But I wasn't sure if there was something in these products that would allow it to happen (similar to steroids or something like that, where you can be in a caloric deficit yet gain mass.)

Basic stats:
31 years old
6'2"
186lbs
11%BF

Thanks for your time.
 
There is some potent nutrient repartitioning capabilities from this stack, which can lead to some nice body recompositioning.

As for the theory of gaining mass while on a caloric deficit, I question the accuracy of the methods used to determine this deficit. While theoretically possible, the means for which to create this phenomenon is dependent on many other variables than just mere compounds; afterall, if the product did all the work, why the hell do we spend time and money to go to the gym (scope out cardio bunnies?). The means necessary to create this would require such selective nutrient storage, it would make your life miserable.

Is it possible to lose fat and gain muscle while on this stack? Yes. Is it possible to lose fat while still gaining weight as muscle mass (as I'm interpretting your post), not very. I would say that (for cutting) it works great at preserving muscle mass while on a large cutting-style deficit, or body recomposition with a deficit closer to maintenance intake.
 
I agree whole-heartedly with Sinner on this one. There are definite benefits to taking these while on a cut, but if your intent is to gain size while cutting, the calories just won't be there. If you come to the end of your cut and gradually raise your calories back up to maintenance and beyond to transition into a bulking phase, these 2 products would definitely help to accelerate gains into the bulk. You won't truly "bulk up" until the fuel is in you to do so. But while cutting, you'll definitely preserve that precious anabolic state better with MassFX and HyperdrolX2.
 
Both Sinner and Tim are right on the money. You will preserve muscle, most likely add some, and keep strength up there on a cut. Throw in some SX and you can really cut up!
 
thesinner said:
Is it possible to lose fat and gain muscle while on this stack? Yes. Is it possible to lose fat while still gaining weight as muscle mass (as I'm interpretting your post), not very.
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I apologize. i wasn't quite clear on what i was looking for. Basically, here's what I am hoping to accomplish.

I'm looking to lose body fat and gain a little muscle. I'm looking for definition. I really don't care about the actual number (as far as weight is concerned.) So even though I may lose 8 pounds (just as an example) I am actually stronger and have put on some lean body mass (even if it's just 1 - 2 pounds or so.) The end result being a lower bodyfat percentage, more definition, more lean body mass, and heavier 1RMs.

I just wasn't sure if it was possible to gain strength AND muscle mass (not just neurological strength gains) while on a caloric deficit. I didn't want to waste the product if I would only be able to maintain what I have and not actually gain anything.

Does that make sense? Hopefully I'm explaining it correctly. Thanks for your assistance!
 
DentonNH said:
I apologize. i wasn't quite clear on what i was looking for. Basically, here's what I am hoping to accomplish.

I'm looking to lose body fat and gain a little muscle. I'm looking for definition. I really don't care about the actual number (as far as weight is concerned.) So even though I may lose 8 pounds (just as an example) I am actually stronger and have put on some lean body mass (even if it's just 1 - 2 pounds or so.) The end result being a lower bodyfat percentage, more definition, more lean body mass, and heavier 1RMs.

I just wasn't sure if it was possible to gain strength AND muscle mass (not just neurological strength gains) while on a caloric deficit. I didn't want to waste the product if I would only be able to maintain what I have and not actually gain anything.

Does that make sense? Hopefully I'm explaining it correctly. Thanks for your assistance!
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Quick Answer: Yes!

Longer Answer: Yes. As I was alluding to in my previous post, this phenomenon is know as recomposition; where you lose bodyfat but gain muscle. Due to the nutrient repartitioning effects of this stack, your body will be more selective in storing nutrients as muscle mass. With the proper cutting regime, your body should be burning fat more effectively than muscle.

So let's look at this: you are storing nutrients more readily in your muscle and you are burning fat more readily than muscle. What do you think is going to happen?

Oftentimes there is not a whole lot of weight lost, but if you let the mirror do the talking, instead of where the needle points on your bathroom scale, something is definitely happening. After all, they saying goes "muscle weighs more than fat". This is because it takes twice as many calories to store the same weight in fat as it does muscle.
 
thesinner said:
Quick Answer: Yes!

Longer Answer: Yes. As I was alluding to in my previous post, this phenomenon is know as recomposition; where you lose bodyfat but gain muscle. Due to the nutrient repartitioning effects of this stack, your body will be more selective in storing nutrients as muscle mass. With the proper cutting regime, your body should be burning fat more effectively than muscle.

So let's look at this: you are storing nutrients more readily in your muscle and you are burning fat more readily than muscle. What do you think is going to happen?

Oftentimes there is not a whole lot of weight lost, but if you let the mirror do the talking, instead of where the needle points on your bathroom scale, something is definitely happening. After all, they saying goes "muscle weighs more than fat". This is because it takes twice as many calories to store the same weight in fat as it does muscle.
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That's what I was hoping for. I never really cared about what the scale in the bathroom said. I just try to go by how I look and feel.

Everything you said makes perfect sense to me :) Thanks for taking the time and explaining it. Now to start this stack :)
 
That's a good way to look at it, and one I typically recommend.

Of course, there are some people who become obsessed with these seemingly arbitrary measurements, so I try to make sure I cater to them as well.

Best of luck with your stack and your cut.
 
you're looking to do exactly what i am DentonNH....im 170 lbs and never really been a strong guy but i need to burn some fat(midsection area lol) and gain some size and muscle and hopefully this stack will do it. Good luck to you as well bro
 
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