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Up to 12 weeks. Check out the attached sample cycle for dosage examples.
 

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yeahright said:
Conversely, what is the shortest effective cycle?
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2 weeks, that is the shortest time period that I would want to run it. Although 4 weeks (1 bottle) is optimal.
 
big smith i was wondering insted of taking 2 weeks off in the middle of the cycle like how your diagram says, i was wondering if i could just take it 12 weeks straight non stop with the hyperdrol and retain also do you think mass fx would be insane with junglewarfare?
 
Well it's two weeks off the MFX and you really need to do that. The Retain and HD are ran the entire 12 weeks.

As for the JW/MFX stack........yes it would be insane. :)

And the HD/Retain/MFX stack is off the chain :)

And if you ran X-Factor + MFX + HD you would be the main.

:wow that was horrible, good thing I am not a rapper: :nono:
 
BigSmith said:
Well it's two weeks off the MFX and you really need to do that. The Retain and HD are ran the entire 12 weeks.

As for the JW/MFX stack........yes it would be insane. :)

And the HD/Retain/MFX stack is off the chain :)

And if you ran X-Factor + MFX + HD you would be the main.

:wow that was horrible, good thing I am not a rapper: :nono:
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Is that what that was?

I don't know about you, 'cuz.

You try and rap with no success

Don't quit your day job, i must confess!!!

:D
 
hey yo here we go,still waitin for the mass fx, im a mess, cant handle it, when u guys gonna finally come out wit it....sorry i cant rap either:dance:
 
The product we have been waiting on was FINALLY released from customs yesterday......

So it is 2-3 weeks max before first shipment hits the shelves. But you better get you hands on it quick. Rumor has it, that many are sold..... :(
 
big smith you will need to wait 4 weeks and an extra 2 weeks for customs for that cd to be sold lol!!!:rofl: jk guys i love ax and there product and as soon as mass fx comes out im gonna get on a 3 month cycle of massfx retain hyperdrol and ramapage
 
khan-unit said:
big smith you will need to wait 4 weeks and an extra 2 weeks for customs for that cd to be sold lol!!!:rofl: jk guys i love ax and there product and as soon as mass fx comes out im gonna get on a 3 month cycle of massfx retain hyperdrol and ramapage
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I'm holding you to it!!! I want to do a full 12 week cycle myself but i have been side tracked lately. I think January will be my start! FX, HD, Retain, XFactor. maybe something else (not sure yet)!!!

Khan, i better see your log, man. Keep on Truckin'!!!

Oh yeah and eat your vegetables!
 
so if a person did the 12 weeks would there be a recommended 'OFF' time. Could a person move to some other stack - NHA, ALRI USP etc or even go into a ProH cycle?
 
glg said:
so if a person did the 12 weeks would there be a recommended 'OFF' time. Could a person move to some other stack - NHA, ALRI USP etc or even go into a ProH cycle?
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I would recommend ATLEAST 4 weeks off, upto 8. If for nothing else, you want to give your body a break. But, then you could move into any of the above mentioned stacks.

For instance, i will be coming up on my 8th week soon. I am going to take 4 off and then start my 12 week cycle.
 
When in the OFF time period what do you use other than general supplementation (CEE, Multis, protien, etc)? Do you stay on anything when you're off?
 
just the general supps as you have listed....

I am cutting right now, so i will stay on StimX until probably 12 or 16 weeks and then take a week or 2 off so i don't get too desensitized to the stimulant.

I will add perfect cycle into the mix in OFF periods. Just to
cleanse out the Liver (That is a good health measure - not because of PHs).
 
macedaddy said:
I would recommend ATLEAST 4 weeks off, upto 8. If for nothing else, you want to give your body a break. But, then you could move into any of the above mentioned stacks.

For instance, i will be coming up on my 8th week soon. I am going to take 4 off and then start my 12 week cycle.
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Here is the AX recommendation:
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It says to take 10 weeks off after this particular stack. So my rec of 4 weeks was low.
 
wrkn4bigrmusles said:
so we are lookin at
4x hyperdrol
3x massfx
2x retain

for a full 12 week cycle
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For the Ultimate Mass cycle as Dr. D designed it, yes.

you could also do:
3 per day of HD for 12 weeks
4 per day of FX for 4 weeks, 4 weeks off, and then 4 per day for 4 more weeks
3 per day of retain for 4 weeks, 4 weeks off, and then 3 per day for 4 weeks.

that would be 3 bottles of HD, 2 bottles of FX, 2 bottles of Retain.

If you are looking to save money. But, it is MOST effective as the good doc designed it.

:D
 
okay .. so i guess i am good at math then.. money is no option when u wanna do it thr right way so .. guess ima line this up for next yrs run... thanx
 
wrkn4bigrmusles said:
okay .. so i guess i am good at math then.. money is no option when u wanna do it thr right way so .. guess ima line this up for next yrs run... thanx
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I'll be right there with you!! Barring any set-backs i will be running the exact same stack as outlined there. :D

Glad you see the benefits of the entire stack! Keep us posted on your progress. If you log it, pop in and let me know. I will for sure follow!!
 
would it be okay to take hyperdrol at 4 caps, retain at 3 caps, and massfx at 4 caps for an entire 12 weeks without a break because i really dnt want to tkae that two week break from the mass fx on that cycle you guys show
 
IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED!

Dr. D developed the products and he developed that cycle.

You can do what ever you want (it is your body, afterall). But it is NOT RECOMMENDED NOR ENDORSED BY AX!!!!!!
 
thanks mac i also was wondering that naturally one can put on about 15 pounds of muscle a year. but since im gonna be on the mass hyper retain stack for three months with a huge calorie intake, how much muscle not weight do u think is possible? is 12 pounds of muscle in that time frame impossible?
 
also what do you think about this, 4 caps of hyperdrol for 12 weeks, 3 caps of retain for 12 weeks, 4 caps of mass fx for 5 weeks than a 2 week break and than 4caps of mass fx for the rest of the 5 weeks.
 
khan-unit said:
thanks mac i also was wondering that naturally one can put on about 15 pounds of muscle a year. but since im gonna be on the mass hyper retain stack for three months with a huge calorie intake, how much muscle not weight do u think is possible? is 12 pounds of muscle in that time frame impossible?
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Most definitely! I say anything is possible! I put on over 20 lbs of LBM in 2 months without the stack. If your diet is perfect, training is to the extreme, you can definitely hit 12 lbs!!!
 
macedaddy said:
IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED!

Dr. D developed the products and he developed that cycle.

You can do what ever you want (it is your body, afterall). But it is NOT RECOMMENDED NOR ENDORSED BY AX!!!!!!
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I trust Dr.D but it would be helpful if an explanation for this gap could be posted. It's puzzling to many of us and I'm sure we'd all understand once the good Dr. explains the reasoning behind it.
 
yeahright said:
I trust Dr.D but it would be helpful if an explanation for this gap could be posted. It's puzzling to many of us and I'm sure we'd all understand once the good Dr. explains the reasoning behind it.
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I am sure that once Dr. D gets the write-up out. He has to finish 2 current projects first. The explanation will be evident. I will consult with him and see if i can get any info before then.

YeahRight, email me: [email protected].
 
yeahright said:
I trust Dr.D but it would be helpful if an explanation for this gap could be posted. It's puzzling to many of us and I'm sure we'd all understand once the good Dr. explains the reasoning behind it.
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I would assume (just an assumption) that even MASSFX will cause SOME degree of supression after a few weeks. With that supression in mind, your body will be producing less test for the product to free up for anabolic purposses.
The two weeks off with continued use of an AI, should bring those test levels back up, so when you continue use 2 weeks later, you have a decent amount of test again to free up.

Continueing an entire 12 weeks, your test levels will continue to drop to some point (the difference between your normal test levels and what what the product provides), making the product less effective over time.

Im sure there are other reasons as well, but I would think that those whop do not take a break at around weeks 5 or so will not see the results that those who did will see.
 
I had a discussion with the good Doctor and.....

ACTUALLY.....

It's just to regain benefits. Nettle starts to play out after about 6-8 wks so that way you avoid the tolerance in the middle and can basically stroke it for 2 phases instead of 1. It's just more effective that way.
 
xtraflossy said:
I would assume (just an assumption) that even MASSFX will cause SOME degree of supression after a few weeks. With that supression in mind, your body will be producing less test for the product to free up for anabolic purposses.
The two weeks off with continued use of an AI, should bring those test levels back up, so when you continue use 2 weeks later, you have a decent amount of test again to free up.

Continueing an entire 12 weeks, your test levels will continue to drop to some point (the difference between your normal test levels and what what the product provides), making the product less effective over time.

Im sure there are other reasons as well, but I would think that those whop do not take a break at around weeks 5 or so will not see the results that those who did will see.
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YOU CAN EASILY RUN IT FOR 8 WEEKS WITH NO PROBLEMS!

But it is prolonging it to 12 weeks that can start to diminish returns. See above.....
 
macedaddy said:
YOU CAN EASILY RUN IT FOR 8 WEEKS WITH NO PROBLEMS!

But it is prolonging it to 12 weeks that can start to diminish returns. See above.....
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lol- yeah. my post was refering to 12 weeks straight.

...oh, just saw I also mentioned something about 5 weeks...:icon_lol: I couldnt remember what week it was recomended you take the break at. I was just saying that those who take the time off will more then likely get more out of it then those who did not.
 
xtraflossy said:
lol- yeah. my post was refering to 12 weeks straight.

...oh, just saw I also mentioned something about 5 weeks...:icon_lol: I couldnt remember what week it was recomended you take the break at. I was just saying that those who take the time off will more then likely get more out of it then those who did not.
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YEP!!! :D


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I just picked up one of the new AX product guides last night and there's also an 8 week cycle called "The Ultimate Cycle"/"The Ultimate Mass Cycle" but it's got a totally different dosing schedule for all three products. Is there a reason why Dr.D's 12 week cycle wasn't included on the guide as well?
 
rpen22 said:
I just picked up one of the new AX product guides last night and there's also an 8 week cycle called "The Ultimate Cycle"/"The Ultimate Mass Cycle" but it's got a totally different dosing schedule for all three products. Is there a reason why Dr.D's 12 week cycle wasn't included on the guide as well?
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New brochures are coming. The complete analysis of the products hadn't been done at the time of printing.
 
rpen22 said:
That makes sense, I noticed it left out what was in Mass FX also so that's what I figured.
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Yep at the time the brochures were made we only had the concept of the product.
 
how about this-you take hyperdrol and mass fx just like dr. d said but retain you take at 3 caps for 4 weeks than 4 weeks off and than 4 weeks on but when you take a break from the retain, can you do designer supplements, nha stack(activate and rebound reloaded only) that way you can keep gaining when your off the massfx and retain for a little bit.
 
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