mass fx cycle length

a clean bulk woud be perfect! Definitely the more calories the better for gains, I am sure you are probably on the right track.
 
macedaddy said:
Glad you came around! Keep us posted! :bb2:
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Yo Mace Daddy and Big Smith:D

I just started week 4 of this cycle and today I experienced some strange backpumps for about a few hours now.. I drink lots of water..have cissus in the stack as well:aargh:

It s a bit in the right side also lower then the middel of my back( I think my kidney)

Any idea why this is happening? should I try taurine?And did you hear this before with this combination of supp's?

Grazi seniores:wave:
 
Riquee said:
Yo Mace Daddy and Big Smith:D

I just started week 4 of this cycle and today I experienced some strange backpumps for about a few hours now.. I drink lots of water..have cissus in the stack as well:aargh:

It s a bit in the right side also lower then the middel of my back( I think my kidney)

Any idea why this is happening? should I try taurine?And did you hear this before with this combination of supp's?

Grazi seniores:wave:
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I remember that Dr. D mentioned something about Mass FX increasing nitric oxide (NO) levels and that a little caffeine taken pre-workout can help avoid the backpumps and headache that usually tag along with the vasodilation effect of NO production. Here is his post from Bulk Nutrition:
I'm the chemist that works with AX. I designed this product and can tell you without a doubt it's non-toxic with nothing to cover up. What's on the label is what you get and I personally test every raw before it goes into the product. Save the milk thistle cause you don't need it with this. It contains no methylated compounds and nothing that's liver toxic, it's all natural and in fact it's very healthy! The ingredients have been shown to stimulate free and total test levels while slightly reducing estrogen at the same time in most cases. Not only that, they have also demonstrated positive benefits on the heart, prostate, blood vessels and joints. It's all good. It's as strong as many PHs but instead of sides it's healthy! It does increase NO production so it may lower the blood pressure in some. That's the reason for the pumps but it's not dangerous in any way and taking a little caffeine pre-w/o can help you avoid back pumps and headaches that may result from vasodilation, (especially if stacking with a pre-w/o nitric booster). Also, always stay well hydrated and take extra potassium when training hard.

This is a very solid product and the best natural gainer you can get right now IMO. I know I'm biased, but I'm giving it 5 stars anyway because I gave Activate 5 stars too and MFX is way stronger!

Dr.D
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Quick question here im running FX for 12 weeks and currently planning an injectable cycle. How long should I wait after the 12 weeks of FX before I start my injectable cycle. ;)
 
Thx for the info Gforce:thumbsup:

The pain started today in my neck at the right side and now it's neck and back at the right side for a few hours on a OFF day:(

Going to bed now and hope tomorrow this pain will be reduced/gooooooooooone:rant:
 
maxer said:
Quick question here im running FX for 12 weeks and currently planning an injectable cycle. How long should I wait after the 12 weeks of FX before I start my injectable cycle. ;)
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From reading the writeup on 25-diol, researching as much as I could on spirostanes, viewing the Q&As mediated by AX reps and Dr. D, and having a good overall understanding of hormones and such activity... it seems that the active component (25-diol) has a good affinity for the androgen receptor (AR), however, the effects would not seem to have such a potent or prolonged effect as something like DHT or even testosterone. The likeliness for any kind of suppression with Mass FX would be virtually nil.
Some people don't believe in androgen receptor resistance or insensetivity, but I personally believe it's possible with overuse/abuse of androgenic substances and not just a genetic factor attributed to chromosomal abnormalities during fetal development.
Some argue that many long term juicers need to take a break from steroids because their receptors are being downregulated from too much androgenic activity, when in fact the inefficacy is due to an increase in SHBG and something like proviron could be employed to fix that issue.
I'd take atleast a few weeks of a break before you start your injectibles IMO just to get your body running normally and without 'optimizing assistance' if you know what I mean.
 
Riquee said:
Thx for the info Gforce:thumbsup:

The pain started today in my neck at the right side and now it's neck and back at the right side for a few hours on a OFF day:(

Going to bed now and hope tomorrow this pain will be reduced/gooooooooooone:rant:
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No problem. I hope the pain goes away.
 
Force of Green said:
From reading the writeup on 25-diol, researching as much as I could on spirostanes, viewing the Q&As mediated by AX reps and Dr. D, and having a good overall understanding of hormones and such activity... it seems that the active component (25-diol) has a good affinity for the androgen receptor (AR), however, the effects would not seem to have such a potent or prolonged effect as something like DHT or even testosterone. The likeliness for any kind of suppression with Mass FX would be virtually nil.
Some people don't believe in androgen receptor resistance or insensetivity, but I personally believe it's possible with overuse/abuse of androgenic substances and not just a genetic factor attributed to chromosomal abnormalities during fetal development.
Some argue that many long term juicers need to take a break from steroids because their receptors are being downregulated from too much androgenic activity, when in fact the inefficacy is due to an increase in SHBG and something like proviron could be employed to fix that issue.
I'd take atleast a few weeks of a break before you start your injectibles IMO just to get your body running normally and without 'optimizing assistance' if you know what I mean.
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Makes sense. I havent noticed any shutdown and didnt anticipate it to be a problem, just wanting to make sure. Thanks for the response.
 
current recommendation is to wait 10 weeks after the ultimate stack before doing anything else....

but, assuming EVERYTHING else is in order, you could probably go right into an injectable cycle and then PCT from there. But i am unfamiliar with injectables, just so you know!

hope that helps.
 
hi all....i,m thiking of starting a cycle of MASS FX. I did phera this past summer. Now do i need to use all the usual supporting supps when using mass fx such as milk thistle, ryr, haw berry ect? Also is this ok to use standalone. Just trying to addd a lil size safely. If anyone has a good log to share thanks :good: Any ideas are appreciated !!
 
poppydogg said:
thanks sublime
Any good results you hear of so far?
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Oh hell ya! I gained 5lbs in my first month... and my diet was also kinda slackin too (but i was stacking with other supps i had ran before).

Theres tons of awesome feedback on our forum at anabolicx.com

check it outttt!
 
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