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Marijuana and Bodybuilding

excellent,but this a minor deviation from the topic of thread.:toofunny:
Your right Ari! In order to get things back on track I will go smoke a bowl and consume anything/everything that is unfortunate enough to cross my path:food:
 
Initially, marijuana's side effects may seem minimal. Short term side effects may include: problems with memory and learning, distorted perception (sights, sounds, time, touch), trouble with thinking and problem-solving, loss of coordination, and increased heart rate. These side effects of marijuana become exaggerated when the user takes additional drugs such as alcohol and cocaine. There are many long term side effects due to marijuana use that are detrimental to the users health.

Individuals who use marijuana on a regular basis may develop cancer, breathing problems, and problems with their immune system. It is hard to know for certain whether repeated use of marijuana causes cancer, but it is well known that it contains some of the same if not more or the cancer-causing chemicals found in tobacco smoke. Studies show that those who smoke five marijuana joints a day maybe taking in as many cancer-causing chemicals as an individual who smokes a pack of cigarettes a day. Imagine now, individuals who smoke marijuana and cigarettes are doubling their chances at developing cancer.

Those who smoke marijuana frequently often develop similar types of breathing problems as those who smoke cigarettes. Side effects such as coughing, wheezing, and chest colds are not uncommon with habitual users. Additionally, they are more susceptible to contracting lung infections such as pneumonia due to their deteriorated lungs. The THC in marijuana may increase the users risk of developing infections. This is because the THC inhibits normal disease-preventing reactions that are necessary to fight infections.

Marijuana's side effects also vary depending on the sex of the user. In males, marijuana typically affects parts of the bran that control the sex and growth hormones. This may mean a decrease in testosterone levels. Habitual use of marijuana can also decrease sperm count, in addition to increasing abnormal and immature sperm. The side effects of marijuana in women as includes effecting the part of the brain which controls hormones. These hormones determine the sequence of the females menstrual cycle and may lead to irregular periods. This particular side effect is reversible, but may take several months of not smoking marijuana before the female users menstrual cycle becomes normal again.

Typical Marijuana Side Effects:

* Enhanced cancer risk
* Decrease in testosterone levels and lower sperm counts for men
* Increase in testosterone levels for women and increased risk of infertility
* Diminished or extinguished sexual pleasure
* Psychological dependence requiring more of the drug to get the same effect
* Sleepiness
* Difficulty keeping track of time, impaired or reduced short-term memory
* Reduced ability to perform tasks requiring concentration and coordination,
such as driving a car
* Increased heart rate
* Potential cardiac dangers for those with preexisting heart disease
* Bloodshot eyes
* Dry mouth and throat
* Decreased social inhibitions
* Paranoia, hallucinations
* Impaired or reduced short-term memory
* Impaired or reduced comprehension
* Altered motivation and cognition, making the acquisition of new information difficult
* Paranoia
* Psychological dependence
* Impairments in learning and memory, perception, and judgment - difficulty
speaking, listening effectively, thinking, retaining knowledge, problem solving,
and forming concepts
* Intense anxiety or panic attacks
 
I dont think marijuana is the top of the top when it comes to boosting appetite.

What? When it comes to stimulating appetite. Marijuana is king. So if weed isn't king of appetite stimulants,what is?

All Im saying is, I dont see how it could do anything but hurt your training.

How? Please elaborate. Marijuana helps me eat more,sleep better, and relax. It also helps me stay away from drinking which is VERY detrimental to training. If you have sand in your vagina and you don't get this then I am sorry but something that doesn't work for one person will work for another. No one here is trying to justify a vice. Everybody has vices. If my vice is smoking weed a couple times a week then so be it.

Life is about balance. Nothing is going to be exclusively good or exclusively bad. My weight training and the lifestyle that I lead is sometimes difficult to follow. Packing meals and always making sure there is food is sometimes stressful. It would be easier to not care. Sometimes it's tough to go to the gym and I would rather be doing something else. It takes up time. The benefits that i see from weight training far out weigh any negative consequences. I enjoy feeling healthy and in shape so it is worth it to me.

The same goes for weed. It has negative and positive things about it and the positives far out weigh the negatives. This may not be true for everyone but for me it is. and why anyone would have a problem with it,I don't know.
 
What? When it comes to stimulating appetite. Marijuana is king. So if weed isn't king of appetite stimulants,what is?



How? Please elaborate. Marijuana helps me eat more,sleep better, and relax. It also helps me stay away from drinking which is VERY detrimental to training. If you have sand in your vagina and you don't get this then I am sorry but something that doesn't work for one person will work for another. No one here is trying to justify a vice. Everybody has vices. If my vice is smoking weed a couple times a week then so be it.

Life is about balance. Nothing is going to be exclusively good or exclusively bad. My weight training and the lifestyle that I lead is sometimes difficult to follow. Packing meals and always making sure there is food is sometimes stressful. It would be easier to not care. Sometimes it's tough to go to the gym and I would rather be doing something else. It takes up time. The benefits that i see from weight training far out weigh any negative consequences. I enjoy feeling healthy and in shape so it is worth it to me.

The same goes for weed. It has negative and positive things about it and the positives far out weigh the negatives. This may not be true for everyone but for me it is. and why anyone would have a problem with it,I don't know.

I dont know what would stimulate appetite better, did you miss the, "I dont know enough" part of every single one of my posts? I would figure that the pharmaceutical companies would have cranked something out that works better than smoking weed by now. Im sure they could, probably just dont bother because they cant beat the cost of MJ and terminal cancer patients arent the most health concerned of us.

A lot of what the pro MJ people in here talk about it no long term side effects etc. From the active ingredient THC MAYBE. Inhaling smoke a few times a week isnt that great for you. People neglect to talk about that. Putting tar into your lungs couldnt impact your training at all could it.

Im sorry life is just soo stressful you have to get some form of high to compensate. Lots of people manage to fit their meals and get to the gym without toking a few times a week. I know man, its just crazy. Alot of what you talked about is situational, specific to you and only you.

That is why I dont believe it can be anything but harmful. I dont have a medical degree, study the subject, or read **** from the internet and act like its solid fact. Unfortunatly, almost any study can be designed to look honest and find what they want to. And that goes for both sides.

Government - MJ kills!
Pro MJ Lobby - It cures all diseases and ends wars!

Who knows what to believe. I wont tell you to stop smoking, I dont really care. I know I wont be however (anymore).

And to the tools who are surely going to give me bad reputation for this, grow up.
 
I dont know what would stimulate appetite better, did you miss the, "I dont know enough" part of every single one of my posts? I would figure that the pharmaceutical companies would have cranked something out that works better than smoking weed by now. Im sure they could, probably just dont bother because they cant beat the cost of MJ and terminal cancer patients arent the most health concerned of us.

A lot of what the pro MJ people in here talk about it no long term side effects etc. From the active ingredient THC MAYBE. Inhaling smoke a few times a week isnt that great for you. People neglect to talk about that. Putting tar into your lungs couldnt impact your training at all could it.

Im sorry life is just soo stressful you have to get some form of high to compensate. Lots of people manage to fit their meals and get to the gym without toking a few times a week. I know man, its just crazy. Alot of what you talked about is situational, specific to you and only you.

That is why I dont believe it can be anything but harmful. I dont have a medical degree, study the subject, or read **** from the internet and act like its solid fact. Unfortunatly, almost any study can be designed to look honest and find what they want to. And that goes for both sides.

Government - MJ kills!
Pro MJ Lobby - It cures all diseases and ends wars!

Who knows what to believe. I wont tell you to stop smoking, I dont really care. I know I wont be however (anymore).

And to the tools who are surely going to give me bad reputation for this, grow up.
You wouldn't get negged if you didn't have such a $hitty attitude. Try it.. you may be surprised:lol:
 
You wouldn't get negged if you didn't have such a $hitty attitude. Try it.. you may be surprised:lol:

How do I have a shitty attitude? Youve done nothing but harass me without provocation this entire thread while derailing it from its discussion and acting like a child. Forgive me for not taking your petty bullshit. Youll notice I actually didnt give you regative reputation despite you giving me some for every single post in this thread.
 
Yes, I have. I have probably partied harder than you ever have as well, so dont think Im an altar boy who lifts between services. Bringing alcohol into the discussion is stupid. Its not relevant to this. The whole, everyone does it thing means nothing. Just because one certain method avoids tar, doesnt make the substance a-ok then. I really think you really need to only hold off if you are a professional athlete or something along those lines. If you lift alot, eat a more than usual, take a few supplements, it probably wont change a lot. There is a difference between lifting and training. Im not pretending to know but in reality, only researchers who get an independently funded paycheck know at this point. All Im saying is, I dont see how it could do anything but hurt your training. Also, the keyword is moderation. Something that alters your mind is a little tougher than say candy or bad foods to use in moderation.
I negged you because of this post! You had a $hitty demeanor with planetfuzz for no reason. The negs are justified imo and so are the ones I haven't handed out yet:FUfinger:
 
I negged you because of this post! You had a $hitty demeanor with planetfuzz for no reason. The negs are justified imo and so are the ones I haven't handed out yet:FUfinger:

I dont really see what was so bad about that post. You didnt like my "tone?" K. Im sorry I wasnt falling over myself to be everyones best friend forever. As for planetfuzz, he neged me with a smartass comment so I wasnt begging for his affection. See, I dont feel the need to kiss everyones ass here.
 
I dont really see what was so bad about that post. You didnt like my "tone?" K. Im sorry I wasnt falling over myself to be everyones best friend forever. As for planetfuzz, he neged me with a smartass comment so I wasnt begging for his affection. See, I dont feel the need to kiss everyones ass here.
Its not about kissing ass, its about being descent to others while your on here. You wanna be act like a dip$hit then go back to BB.com
 
Its not about kissing ass, its about being descent to others while your on here. You wanna be act like a dip$hit then go back to BB.com

Coming from left field, talking ****, negging me for EVERY single post, wasting this entire page with petty arguing. Sounds like you should hop on over to bb.com. Im done arguing with you, this is just stupid.
 
yeah, planetfuzz blazing after a workout is the best time,

thats actually when i feel like blazing the most because

your body is tired and your cortisol is high.

its complicated i cant find any studies with MJ and cortisol,

but if MJ did lower cortisol, it would be as anabolic as cissus, and lean xtreme,lean FX

what you think guys?

Im really wondering if there can be a postive,albiet nothing crazy towards MJ having anabolic properties. But i think it can depend on the breed.
 
I dont know what would stimulate appetite better, did you miss the, "I dont know enough" part of every single one of my posts? I would figure that the pharmaceutical companies would have cranked something out that works better than smoking weed by now. Im sure they could, probably just dont bother because they cant beat the cost of MJ and terminal cancer patients arent the most health concerned of us.

A lot of what the pro MJ people in here talk about it no long term side effects etc. From the active ingredient THC MAYBE. Inhaling smoke a few times a week isnt that great for you. People neglect to talk about that. Putting tar into your lungs couldnt impact your training at all could it.

Im sorry life is just soo stressful you have to get some form of high to compensate. Lots of people manage to fit their meals and get to the gym without toking a few times a week. I know man, its just crazy. Alot of what you talked about is situational, specific to you and only you.

That is why I dont believe it can be anything but harmful. I dont have a medical degree, study the subject, or read **** from the internet and act like its solid fact. Unfortunatly, almost any study can be designed to look honest and find what they want to. And that goes for both sides.

Government - MJ kills!
Pro MJ Lobby - It cures all diseases and ends wars!

Who knows what to believe. I wont tell you to stop smoking, I dont really care. I know I wont be however (anymore).

And to the tools who are surely going to give me bad reputation for this, grow up.

i forgot to mention that smoking isnt the only way of MJ consumption, you can eat, vaporize, rub and oil of it onto your body,

Even probally transdermally, but i wouldnt know how to do this.

But yes the most common way is smoking and that is unfortunate.

Smoking any substance is not good for you, at least long-term.

But tobacco cigarettes contain much more harmful chemicals than MJ.

Also unless one is smoking all day, which is actually pretty rare by my findings, is smoking blunts and papers all day, there is not too much smoke involved.

Most people who are relatively safe on this issue use water pipes or regular pipes,which are safer than blunts,papers,ect.

Also the better quality of MJ one has, the less one has to smoke.

This even decreased less if one has potent hash, and which there is barely any smoke at all.

While im not shure on the numbers, MJ hasnt killed anyone, but cigarretes has killed millions.

However, i still believe that its possible that people who toked ALL DAY LONG could probally get some type of cancer,
but even so the risk is less if the person toked tobacco all day long.
 
i forgot to mention that smoking isnt the only way of MJ consumption, you can eat, vaporize, rub and oil of it onto your body,

Even probally transdermally, but i wouldnt know how to do this.

But yes the most common way is smoking and that is unfortunate.

Smoking any substance is not good for you, at least long-term.

But tobacco cigarettes contain much more harmful chemicals than MJ.

Also unless one is smoking all day, which is actually pretty rare by my findings, is smoking blunts and papers all day, there is not too much smoke involved.

Most people who are relatively safe on this issue use water pipes or regular pipes,which are safer than blunts,papers,ect.

Also the better quality of MJ one has, the less one has to smoke.

This even decreased less if one has potent hash, and which there is barely any smoke at all.

While im not shure on the numbers, MJ hasnt killed anyone, but cigarretes has killed millions.

However, i still believe that its possible that people who toked ALL DAY LONG could probally get some type of cancer,
but even so the risk is less if the person toked tobacco all day long.

Id imagine its hard to gauge numbers on how many (if any) MJ has killed. Its kinda illegal so they probably dont do the numbers, at least the government. I mean, obviously there are other methods of getting what you want from MJ, but smoking is obviously the most common. A transdermal would be interesting to say the least. I mean, in reality, any kind of smoke can create health complications, not just MJ. Also, I understand the coughing isnt great for you either. The typical cigarette is definintly more harmful "pound for pound." But at the same time, you never really know what exactly has been done to the weed unless you grow it yourself like my coworker. I dont think anyone will debate that at this time, it seems very unlikely its as bad as alcohol or something. There are much worse things you can do Id imagine. Again, this is all speculation and without intimate scientific/factual knowledge of the whole subject that a researcher etc. would know.
 
Id imagine its hard to gauge numbers on how many (if any) MJ has killed. Its kinda illegal so they probably dont do the numbers, at least the government. I mean, obviously there are other methods of getting what you want from MJ, but smoking is obviously the most common. A transdermal would be interesting to say the least. I mean, in reality, any kind of smoke can create health complications, not just MJ. Also, I understand the coughing isnt great for you either. The typical cigarette is definintly more harmful "pound for pound." But at the same time, you never really know what exactly has been done to the weed unless you grow it yourself like my coworker. I dont think anyone will debate that at this time, it seems very unlikely its as bad as alcohol or something. There are much worse things you can do Id imagine. Again, this is all speculation and without intimate scientific/factual knowledge of the whole subject that a researcher etc. would know.

Estimated Per Capita Death Rates by Drugs


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Drug Users Deaths per Year Deaths per 100,000
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Tobacco 60 million 390,000 (a) 650
alcohol 100 million 150,000 (b) 150
Heroin 500,000 400 (c) 80 (400)
Cocaine 5 million 200 (c) 4 (20)



there are no deaths from marijuanna at all

but anyways, about transdermals they actually exist, mainly in the medical community in california.

Im shure you could make your own, but youd have to have a pure extract of THC,CBN, or other canninbiniods

I dont know too much about the creatin of transdermals, but there is a thread on this forum dedicated to that topic.



Also you said the coughing isnt good for you???THC is an expectorant, so it makes you cough more than regular smoke. and coughing is actually good because it can help get some of the particles and tar out of your mouth.
 
You wouldn't get negged if you didn't have such a $hitty attitude. Try it.. you may be surprised:lol:

I agree. Sh*tty attitude indeed. There is a way to debate with people in a nice way and then you can just be an ass. Your reputation was bad before you started posting in this thread so that doesn't help your cause.

Im sorry life is just soo stressful you have to get some form of high to compensate. Lots of people manage to fit their meals and get to the gym without toking a few times a week. I know man, its just crazy.

What is wrong with you? Marijuana doesn't compensate anything. Lots of people have a couple beers to relax after work. Are they compensating?? No,they are just winding down from the day. Marijuana IS NOT a crutch for me. I doubt I will smoke for the rest of my life but right now I can so why not? Like I said the positives out weigh the negatives. You obviously aren't even reading what I've said.

Why are you even still here TexasTitan? If you don't care about your rep and hate marijuana so much why are you spending your time arguing with a bunch of pathetic lazy stoners anyway? If you think marijuana is detrimental to your training and you disagree with it totally then don't f*cking do it.
 
official number of deaths attributed to marijuana: zero.
Not per year. Not per 100k. Zero.

It has no known LD-50.

It has been found among the burial offerings in some of the oldest burial sites in the world; it is the oldest cultivated plant, having been used for food, medicine, clothing, paper, rope, and lubricants for thousands of years.

It was made illegal as a consequence of a commercial war between the paper industry (based on hemp and linen for the life of this country) and the upstarts who were promoting pine-pulp as a source of paper. Pulp-paper won, after the "Marihuana Tax Act" was forced through Congress by the pulp lobby (funded by William Randolph Hearst), much to the detriment of large areas of the South - and over the outraged objections of the American Medical Association.

Cannabis is one of the most extensively researched plants on the planet - we know far more about it than we know about aspirin, for example. A fair number of long-term studies, including a British study done in Jamaica early last century, have been done that contradicted many of the items on that list of "side effects" someone posted earlier.

Those are facts out of the public record. All that "assassin of youth" stuff? Totally made up as part of the campaign to get it off the market - also part of the public record.
 
washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html

Basically one of the largest studies ever done for marijuana, by UCLA (very trustworthy and reliable source)

Basically the article says theres no correlation to heavy marijuana smoking and lung cancer.

Half those effects listed above are positive effects in my opinion, and another quarter are just bullhickey.

Blunt a day keeps the doctor away.
Johnny smoked some crack and almost died!
Billy only got the munchies from getting high!

everyone needs to get off their high horse about marijuana and get on board the high train.
 
Cannabis is one of the most extensively researched plants on the planet - we know far more about it than we know about aspirin, for example.

Haha,very true. You can't OD on weed but like Katt Williams says,"Aspirin is perfectly legal but if you take 10 of those mother f*ckers that'll be your last headache."

Marijuana has only been illegal for about 1% of the time it's been in use. Why cigarettes are legal and weed isn't...it's beyond me.
 
official number of deaths attributed to marijuana: zero.
Not per year. Not per 100k. Zero.

It has no known LD-50.

It has been found among the burial offerings in some of the oldest burial sites in the world; it is the oldest cultivated plant, having been used for food, medicine, clothing, paper, rope, and lubricants for thousands of years.

It was made illegal as a consequence of a commercial war between the paper industry (based on hemp and linen for the life of this country) and the upstarts who were promoting pine-pulp as a source of paper. Pulp-paper won, after the "Marihuana Tax Act" was forced through Congress by the pulp lobby (funded by William Randolph Hearst), much to the detriment of large areas of the South - and over the outraged objections of the American Medical Association.

Cannabis is one of the most extensively researched plants on the planet - we know far more about it than we know about aspirin, for example. A fair number of long-term studies, including a British study done in Jamaica early last century, have been done that contradicted many of the items on that list of "side effects" someone posted earlier.

Those are facts out of the public record. All that "assassin of youth" stuff? Totally made up as part of the campaign to get it off the market - also part of the public record.

nice post! i hate lobbyists. At least we got some working for medical marijuanna.

Did the paper industry create the movie "Reefer Madness"?
 
Haha,very true. You can't OD on weed but like Katt Williams says,"Aspirin is perfectly legal but if you take 10 of those mother f*ckers that'll be your last headache."

Marijuana has only been illegal for about 1% of the time it's been in use. Why cigarettes are legal and weed isn't...it's beyond me.

its not beyond you

its simple

Tobaco companies have MONEYMONEYMONEY

and i recently started thinking about theories and the government not legalizing marijuanna, because marijuana is worth more money illegal than legall. Think how cheap it would be if it were legal. Its already cheap compared to most street drugs, but it would even be cheaper.
 
I see the texastool is now trollin' this thread as well. I agree, his attitude sucks. I've negged him a few times already in my college football thread for acting like a complete moron, time for some more! :)

I have some stuff to add in here later tonight.
 
special herbs help increase my mind muscle connection while lifting.. when i smoke before lifting i get so pumped up.. i put on my ipod.. start nodding my head to the music.. walk to the gym and proceed to visualize every rep of the workout im about to partake in.. also when i smoke it gets my mind going.. so i will look in the mirror and flex and then i begin thinking to myself what i need to improve on and how i can do it, kind of like a stoned self evaluation... the only negative is that i now have to smoke before each workout.. its my preworkout supp
 
ppl always ask that me how i can lift when stoned.. doesnt it make u tired..blah..blah blah... thething ppl dont understand about is the difference between sativas and indicas.. i smoke my sativas(usually some nice purps) before my workout.. they get me so pumped and hyper... and i save my indicas(pure og kush) for before bed/after workouts to relax my mind and muscles
 
ppl always ask that me how i can lift when stoned.. doesnt it make u tired..blah..blah blah... thething ppl dont understand about is the difference between sativas and indicas.. i smoke my sativas(usually some nice purps) before my workout.. they get me so pumped and hyper... and i save my indicas(pure og kush) for before bed/after workouts to relax my mind and muscles

yeah, totally i understand what your talking about.
Theres the pure type energy sativa, which are mainly thc.
-Ipod sounds great, so gets you super motivated
-you get an actuall pump
-no pain, so you can lift heavier weights
-and your more in tune with your body, so you can better exercise the muscles through some weird way, you feel like your one with the muscle

Indicas have CBN and other cannibinoids which have less physacdelic effects but make you nice,tired,and relaxed.

also big zack, which you say that you gain more muscle with it than without, would you call an anabolic substance persay?
anything that helps build muscle can be called anabolic.



I see that you smoke, id highly reccomend getting a vaporizer, ask me which ones are good if you want, i already researched vaporizers a lot.
 
. so i will look in the mirror and flex and then i begin thinking to myself what i need to improve on and how i can do it, kind of like a stoned self evaluation... the only negative is that i now have to smoke before each workout.. its my preworkout supp

yeah, exactly i like to do that also.

you look in the mirror and see your body in a different light.

but i only did pre-workout 5 times or so. I started to get a little paranoid,and thinking maybe this is not the best thing to do.
 
I see the texastool is now trollin' this thread as well. I agree, his attitude sucks. I've negged him a few times already in my college football thread for acting like a complete moron, time for some more! :)

I have some stuff to add in here later tonight.

great trauma, great to have you aboard whether your here just to flame texastool or not:lol:
 
in the anabolic diet book he says maryjane along with cocaine lowers testerone.. not sure if he citied a source study
 
in the anabolic diet book he says maryjane along with cocaine lowers testerone.. not sure if he citied a source study

yeah it for shure does

but i dont know by how much

have you found any sources that say specific amounts?

it definately increases estrogen as well

We dont know the level at which test or estro change.
 
I checked the book and he does cite stuides to back his clam..

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3. Barnett G, Chiang CW, Licko VJ. Effects of marijuana on testosterone in male subjects. Theor
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dont know how hard it will be to get them..

but I just started backreading post in this thread and looks to have gotten real personal between some members and not a debate so I think ima stay out of this argument.. but there are some studies and sorry if they have already been posted
 
i will ask u which vap u think is the best.. but i have a good feeling u may say it is the volcano:) ...so which vap is the best? to be honest i dont mind smoking it.. i love my gbs(grav bongs) they help me conserve.. although i get down with the blunts far too often.. cocaine def lowers test... it makes me feel like such a bitch.. i cant even get up half the time when im on it.. i straight up tell the girl she is gonna need to do alot of work to get mr johnson to awaken
 
I don't think THC causes cancer, but I would definitely expect the resin, carbon monoxide, and smoke to lead to cancer just as much as cigarettes. Oddly enough, if your lungs are congested - a deep hit clears it right out though.

I believe Marijuana is illegal because the government would be unable to tax it. It's too easy to grow, and people would do that rather than buy it. People are generally to lazy or don't have the time to brew their own Beer and Whiskey, thus it is easily taxed.

In high school, I made sugar cookies with pot butter I concocted - and went through the worst experience of my life. It was up and down like a roller coaster for the entire day. Stoned for a few hours, come down, then feel really stoned again. I was completely paranoid off and on. At one point I was feeling real chill eating a Chalupa, and my sister made me laugh uncontrollably and I shot it out my nose like milk. I immediately panicked, thinking I would need to go to the doctor. My eyes watered up bad, then my dad came home from work - so I hid, and just ran out of the house while he was changing and didn't come home until about 8 hours later.

Never lifted on it though. If I still smoked, I would probably just use it while bulking.
 
special herbs help increase my mind muscle connection while lifting.. when i smoke before lifting i get so pumped up.. i put on my ipod.. start nodding my head to the music.. walk to the gym and proceed to visualize every rep of the workout im about to partake in.. also when i smoke it gets my mind going.. so i will look in the mirror and flex and then i begin thinking to myself what i need to improve on and how i can do it, kind of like a stoned self evaluation... the only negative is that i now have to smoke before each workout.. its my preworkout supp

That is awesome. I have thought about it,but never done it. When I am high I react to music so well. The pump would be insane. Maybe I'll try it in a few months cause I just bought some more Ragnarok.:lol:

I see that you smoke, id highly reccomend getting a vaporizer, ask me which ones are good if you want, i already researched vaporizers a lot.

I used to have a Vapolution. I sold it though cause I needed money. I think it is probably the best bang for your buke vape out there. Probably one of the healthiest too.

It was $150. It has a car charger. It is glass on glass (so there are no metals or plastics being heated). It was a real nice piece of equipment and it's built like a tank. Made in CA!

The high is very different though. It's a very focused high. You aren't as much...f*cked up. It's more of a head high than a body high. I liked it but some people didn't. I think smoking out of a bong is defiantly more satisfying but I prefer to vape just because it like breathing in air. I think I am going to get another one...

What do you think is the best one ari?
 
yea vaps give u that nice head high.. where ur clear headed and kno what u need to do.. thats lift heavy ass weight and make gains... vs smoking fat blunts and getting so high that u just walk around and do nothing in the weight room.. confused about what body part ur even working out that day.. jk... no matter what i smoke i always have the motivation to go to the gym and kill my workout..
 
It has no effect other than on the lungs and eating. I'm doing an experiment to prove this because government testing will obviously continue lying to the people to keep marijuana illegal. Anyone seen Reefer Madness? Case in point. So I'm monitoring my gains while smoking pot and then quitting for 4 months and watching the gains then. The results should be conclusive.
 
That is awesome. I have thought about it,but never done it. When I am high I react to music so well. The pump would be insane. Maybe I'll try it in a few months cause I just bought some more Ragnarok.:lol:



I used to have a Vapolution. I sold it though cause I needed money. I think it is probably the best bang for your buke vape out there. Probably one of the healthiest too.

It was $150. It has a car charger. It is glass on glass (so there are no metals or plastics being heated). It was a real nice piece of equipment and it's built like a tank. Made in CA!

The high is very different though. It's a very focused high. You aren't as much...f*cked up. It's more of a head high than a body high. I liked it but some people didn't. I think smoking out of a bong is defiantly more satisfying but I prefer to vape just because it like breathing in air. I think I am going to get another one...

What do you think is the best one ari?

I looked at the vapolution, and that one gets pretty good reviews, but they said something about it being hard to operate.

Da Buddha is a newer one out the market,also 150, made by the peope who make the silver surfer. I was gonna get the silver surfer, but the only difference between the two is looks.

and for vaporizers and the difference between the high, its usually a head high, but you can change that by changing the temperatures, at the lower temps youll get the other canninbinoids and at the higher youll get thc.

Although id still consider getting vapolution since its portable, and car chargable.
 
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It has no effect other than on the lungs and eating. I'm doing an experiment to prove this because government testing will obviously continue lying to the people to keep marijuana illegal. Anyone seen Reefer Madness? Case in point. So I'm monitoring my gains while smoking pot and then quitting for 4 months and watching the gains then. The results should be conclusive.

are you seriously doing this?

Good work then!

I think 4 months at a time is a little too long, i think you should just do 1 month on, 1 month off, it will be easier,4 months on 4 months of is too extreme.

but it effects more than lungz and eating, your recovery time will probally improve.
 
yea vaps give u that nice head high.. where ur clear headed and kno what u need to do.. thats lift heavy ass weight and make gains... vs smoking fat blunts and getting so high that u just walk around and do nothing in the weight room.. confused about what body part ur even working out that day.. jk... no matter what i smoke i always have the motivation to go to the gym and kill my workout..

big zack, do you notice any increased estrogen?
 
It has no effect other than on the lungs and eating. I'm doing an experiment to prove this because government testing will obviously continue lying to the people to keep marijuana illegal. Anyone seen Reefer Madness? Case in point. So I'm monitoring my gains while smoking pot and then quitting for 4 months and watching the gains then. The results should be conclusive.

I never seen reefer madness... but back in the 40s they had a commerical of a guy and girl playin piano smoking weed and someone knocks at the door and the guy goes crazy and kills him.. great stuff.. The history of marijuana is pretty interesting if you look into it, contry to popular belief it isnt illegal because the govt cant tax it...it was first made illegal to control mexican immigrants then after people realized it wasn't as bad as all the hyped up govnt propaganda made it seem people started objecting to it and testing it themselves. There actually was a study done on people and the effects and conculded that it didnt make you go crazy and kill people (the original claim against it) by the way you wouldnt believe the penealty for smoking back then.. anyway then our govnt attacked the researchers of the study callin them quacks and what not and then the new reason was it is a gateway drug.. weed was very close to becoming legal again once until Nixion formed the DEA and made weed illegal on a federal level before then it was state law and more and more states were leagalizing it, after the DEA and the federal statue it kinda fell apart ever since...
 
I was completely paranoid off and on. At one point I was feeling real chill eating a Chalupa, and my sister made me laugh uncontrollably and I shot it out my nose like milk. I immediately panicked, thinking I would need to go to the doctor. My eyes watered up bad, then my dad came home from work - so I hid, and just ran out of the house while he was changing and didn't come home until about 8 hours later.


sorry for this...

but LMAO:lol:



"I don't think THC causes cancer, but I would definitely expect the resin, carbon monoxide, and smoke to lead to cancer just as much as cigarettes. Oddly enough, if your lungs are congested - a deep hit clears it right out though."

THC has been shown to be cancer protective in many studies.

The other stuff, definately yes.
 
I never seen reefer madness... but back in the 40s they had a commerical of a guy and girl playin piano smoking weed and someone knocks at the door and the guy goes crazy and kills him.. great stuff.. The history of marijuana is pretty interesting if you look into it, contry to popular belief it isnt illegal because the govt cant tax it...it was first made illegal to control mexican immigrants then after people realized it wasn't as bad as all the hyped up govnt propaganda made it seem people started objecting to it and testing it themselves. There actually was a study done on people and the effects and conculded that it didnt make you go crazy and kill people (the original claim against it) by the way you wouldnt believe the penealty for smoking back then.. anyway then our govnt attacked the researchers of the study callin them quacks and what not and then the new reason was it is a gateway drug.. weed was very close to becoming legal again once until Nixion formed the DEA and made weed illegal on a federal level before then it was state law and more and more states were leagalizing it, after the DEA and the federal statue it kinda fell apart ever since...

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Nice paragraph:thumbsup:
 
It has no effect other than on the lungs and eating. I'm doing an experiment to prove this because government testing will obviously continue lying to the people to keep marijuana illegal. Anyone seen Reefer Madness? Case in point. So I'm monitoring my gains while smoking pot and then quitting for 4 months and watching the gains then. The results should be conclusive.

That's awesome man. I went a month without smoking and now I am currently lifting and smoking. The main difference I saw was my personality and attitude. I am kind of an extremist. When I do something I do it to the max. During the month I was just lifting I was kind of on edge all the time. My social life was non-existant because all I did was eat and workout. I made great gains but I have found that the edge that working out adds to my personality weed kind of smooths it over. :thumbsup:

I looked at the vapolution, and that one gets pretty good reviews, but they said something about it being hard to operate.

Da Buddha is a newer one out the market,also 150, made by the peope who make the silver surfer. I was gonna get the silver surfer, but the only difference between the two is looks.

and for vaporizers and the difference between the high, its usually a head high, but you can change that by changing the temperatures, at the lower temps youll get the other canninbinoids and at the higher youll get thc.

Although id still consider getting vapolution since its portable, and car chargable.

That was the only problem with the vapolution. It was slightly difficult to load but it wasn't too much of a problem. The car charger makes it worth it. It fits in the cup holder and you just hook up the tube. It's a lot less obvious than say hitting a pipe or a bong.
The loved my vapolution. I think I'll probably get another one just because I loved my first one so much.

I had never considered adjusting the temperature for a different high! That makes sense. I always wondered why it was different. I will defiantly have to try that when I get it.
 
If anyone is aware of a substance that is better at increasing appetite, please let me know.
 
If anyone is aware of a substance that is better at increasing appetite, please let me know.

If there is something that increases appetite more then I don't care to know about it. I have almost killed myself before from eating so much.
 
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