MAN Blueprint

Anybody ever see any feedback on this? The science looks good.... but does it pan out in real-world use?

I've used it on two separate occassions. Once for 20 days and the second time for 40 days along with various other supplements.

The first time(20 days)-
Noticed some skin clearing(probably from the R-ALA)
Some insulin sensitivity(probably from the R-ALA)
Sick vascularity and pumps after a few days.

The second time(40 days straight)
Definite insulin sensitivity(still likely from the R-ALA)
Sick and consistent vascularity and pumps(ceased all NO products during this time, but did supplement with BA).
Increased Libido
Increased quality of sleep

*IMO, I would use this product again on cycle, with some sort of hormonal product, to help increase the gains on cycle, and for its antioxidant effects.
 
I've used it on two separate occassions. Once for 20 days and the second time for 40 days along with various other supplements.

The first time(20 days)-
Noticed some skin clearing(probably from the R-ALA)
Some insulin sensitivity(probably from the R-ALA)
Sick vascularity and pumps after a few days.

The second time(40 days straight)
Definite insulin sensitivity(still likely from the R-ALA)
Sick and consistent vascularity and pumps(ceased all NO products during this time, but did supplement with BA).
Increased Libido
Increased quality of sleep

*IMO, I would use this product again on cycle, with some sort of hormonal product, to help increase the gains on cycle, and for its antioxidant effects.

:cheers: Reps. Thanks man!
 
Am interested in more feedback too. While looking into this product I saw these 2 reviews at another site:

1. As far as im concerned these are sugar pills, i gave em a try cause i found some of the research on mice interesting. But i gotta say after a bottle of this stuff, i finished it last week, i felt ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. MAN can go to *** with this product, "Holy Grail" my ass

2. This may be one of the better products I have ever taken. My vascularity and muscle fullness were noticeable in a few days. I felt pumped around the clock and it made my balls bigger. I noticed increased virality and vigor and looked forward to taking every dose of this product. Great job MAN.

Hehe...too few to make any conclusions on the real efficacy eh...
 
I was interested in this when it first came out but i didnt get much feedback on it so i never picked it up. Thanks for the review. Anyone else?
 
I used 1 one. It was enough to get me to pick up 2 more from NP.

I'm going to start them in a month or so. The first bottle helped with sleep, increased vascularity, pump, and strength in the gym. My shoulder pain actually was very decreased as well.
 
A review I found at the MAN forum:

Just finished my first bottle of Blueprint (20 days worth), and have nothing but good things to say. Here's what I've experienced:

Huge, all-day "pumps" - I've never taken an NO product (I'm more about function than form) so I can't give a comparison, but whenever I'm finished with my workouts I look and feel like my muscles are going to burst out of my skin. I'm also much more vascular. This effect is something that lasts all day long, not just after my workout. Of course it is much more pronounced then, but from morning to night I'm much fuller.

Increase in strength - I feel stronger on all of my lifts and weights have gone up a significant amount. In my personal experience it's not quite as much of a strength and power gain as Clout gives me, but still significant enough to be noted.

Slight energy boost - Nothing like drinking an energy drink or anything like that, but it gives me a feeling of being refreshed. The best way I can describe is that it's like I took a little power nap. That's about as close as I can get to describing it.

Clear thoughts/improved cognitive abilities - I feel like I express myself much more clearly and always seem to have a focused, clear head.

Anxiety relief - This has been one of the more pronounced effects. I'm not a very anxious or stressed person to begin with, but I'm even less so now. This is one effect that I'm definately aware of all day long. It's also one of my favorite things about Blueprint.

All in all, I would have to say that Blueprint is one of the best supplements I have ever taken. It's not going to produce steroid-like gains or anything like that, but when you take in to account everything it does, it's incredible. Definately one of the best all-around supplements you can buy.

The best part is that I still have 2 bottles left. I have a new staple in my supplement routine. Nice job to everyone at MAN for bringing this compound to light.
 
And another one from that same board:

I just want to reconfirm all that is said in this thread about Blueprint . It is THE best supplement Ive ever had. Period. Ive tried everything under the sun too. I really wanted the Nitric oxide supps to work for me. At first they did..somewhat. Better pump and strength. Soon though the stuff was keeping up at night and I got some headaches from it. Then results just dropped off quickly. Not Blueprint. Fantastic pumps...better strength...endurance. No unwanted side effects. Its the greatest. I registered to this site because I just wanted to let Man Sports know you have a REAL gem on your hands...believe me. So thanks guys. Im a lifetime buyer of Blueprint. Now I know what it might feel like to train with a pharmaceutical. Its about time we natural bodybuilders have some firepower baby.
 
I love MAN products but the "HOLY GRAIL" tagline threw me off. It just doesn't seem like something MAN would say or put on one of their products. It's an over-statement, and in the time frame it was released there were like 3 other "Holy Grail" products on the market, none of which rang true. The feedback on BB.COM has been 'meh' at best.
 
I tried this and yes you get a similiar pump too a regular no2 product, but what I still don't know and I would still like to know is this, any no2 product, this included, makes me get cold sores and I have to take lysine concurrently with them to prevent this, so my question is does the lysine negate the positive effects of the no2 or does it just neutralize the side effects, and possible help with gh.
 
For some reason I've noticed when I used to take a certain brand of NO2 I'd get drowsy. I damn near fell asleep on the leg press sled on day.

I'd love to try a decent NO2 product that isn't just for the mirror. I might have to order this when I pick up my P-Slin
 
I'll be logging it's usage soon. I am buddy buddy with everybody at MAN :D hehehe I am running it alongside Clout/BO, but I've ran those forever and know their effects VERY well. When my job settles down a wee bit and I get situated more, I'll be having it sent and do my log on it.
 
I'll be logging it's usage soon. I am buddy buddy with everybody at MAN :D hehehe I am running it alongside Clout/BO, but I've ran those forever and know their effects VERY well. When my job settles down a wee bit and I get situated more, I'll be having it sent and do my log on it.

You could stack your own poop with Clout/BO and still have good results, lol. Any chance your willing to drop the Clout/BO for a cycle of Blue Print, I wouldn't blame you to not want too. I don't mean to question you on your Clout/BO knowledge but those two are a serious combo.
 
You could stack your own poop with Clout/BO and still have good results, lol. Any chance your willing to drop the Clout/BO for a cycle of Blue Print, I wouldn't blame you to not want too. I don't mean to question you on your Clout/BO knowledge but those two are a serious combo.

You must be a newb... or ignorant... as I mentioned, I've used Clout/BO for a while now... I know wtf they do, and HELL no I wont drop free usage of them. I wont even be logging it on a big forum.. lol It's not meant to test out Blue Print.. it's meant to be a recovery stack. I have strong faith in Blue Print and don't feel it needs to be "retested" although I do know exactly what to look for and will be very precise with my log as usual. I am sorry I jumped on your sh*t, but that pisses me off WAY bad.
 
You must be a newb... or ignorant... as I mentioned, I've used Clout/BO for a while now... I know wtf they do, and HELL no I wont drop free usage of them. I wont even be logging it on a big forum.. lol It's not meant to test out Blue Print.. it's meant to be a recovery stack. I have strong faith in Blue Print and don't feel it needs to be "retested" although I do know exactly what to look for and will be very precise with my log as usual. I am sorry I jumped on your sh*t, but that pisses me off WAY bad.

My apologies, I thought you might take my post the wrong way. But based on the thread and your post it seemed like you would be testing out Blue Print for the first time and would be logging it as well. Thank you for the apology but it was unnecessary, I'm not one get worked up over forum postings.
 
from transXisomer:

my summary:

- Increased body temp after morning dose
- More muscle fullness / pumps throughout the day
- Mood elevating effect
- Lipolytic effect (noticing a leaning effect especially in the chest)
 
I tried this and yes you get a similiar pump too a regular no2 product, but what I still don't know and I would still like to know is this, any no2 product, this included, makes me get cold sores and I have to take lysine concurrently with them to prevent this, so my question is does the lysine negate the positive effects of the no2 or does it just neutralize the side effects, and possible help with gh.

The reason you get Cold Sores with NO2 products is that Cold Sores, also referred to as Fever Blisters or Herpes Simplex 1 Virus, are caused by a herpes virus. Most often, this is the herpes simplex 1 virus. As it turns out, the herpes simplex virus has a high affinity and a high requirement for the amino acid, arginine, the most important amino acid in any NO2 product. By the way, the virus can remain dormant in our bodies and can break out due to colds, fevers, exposure to excessive sunlight, during stress or illness, or menstrual periods.
The amino acid, Lysine, on the other hand inhibits viral replication. By the way, arginine will usually bind to the lysine, making lysine useless. This is why additional lysine supplementation is required. This is also the reason it is advised not to take arginine and lysine simultaneously.
Other compounds that inhibit the herpes virus include vitamin c with bioflavonoids, zinc, vitamin e, lemon balm, the proanthocyanidins in grape seed extract, echinacea, elderberry, and so on.
People prone to cold sores are advised to avoid diet high in arginine. These foods might include nuts, peanuts, and chocolate.
 
The reason you get Cold Sores with NO2 products is that Cold Sores, also referred to as Fever Blisters or Herpes Simplex 1 Virus, are caused by a herpes virus. Most often, this is the herpes simplex 1 virus. As it turns out, the herpes simplex virus has a high affinity and a high requirement for the amino acid, arginine, the most important amino acid in any NO2 product. By the way, the virus can remain dormant in our bodies and can break out due to colds, fevers, exposure to excessive sunlight, during stress or illness, or menstrual periods.
The amino acid, Lysine, on the other hand inhibits viral replication. By the way, arginine will usually bind to the lysine, making lysine useless. This is why additional lysine supplementation is required. This is also the reason it is advised not to take arginine and lysine simultaneously.
Other compounds that inhibit the herpes virus include vitamin c with bioflavonoids, zinc, vitamin e, lemon balm, the proanthocyanidins in grape seed extract, echinacea, elderberry, and so on.
People prone to cold sores are advised to avoid diet high in arginine. These foods might include nuts, peanuts, and chocolate.

Strategic,

Beverly International makes a product called GH Factor.... I'll see if I can find their writeup. Arginine Pyroglutamate and Lysine (forget the chemical form)

Would like to get your take on it, as it combines Lysine and Arginine.
 
Strategic,

Beverly International makes a product called GH Factor.... I'll see if I can find their writeup. Arginine Pyroglutamate and Lysine (forget the chemical form)

Would like to get your take on it, as it combines Lysine and Arginine.
It might be interesting to see the write up. Yet, it is standard recommendation to take arginine and lysine apart. Arginine pyroglutamate, by the way, has a different functional pathway than elemental arginine. It used to be fashionable in the past to recommend a combination of arginine, ornithine, and lysine as the gold standard for GH secretion.
 
so still mostly the jury is out on agmatine. MAN's own site has all positive reviews (shocker) and its 50/50 elsewhere?
 
I've taken Blueprint before with Poseidon and staple supplements (multi, oil, anti-o) on a lower carb eating month. I felt fuller (low carbs usually flattens me) and I had new veins popping out. Agmatine is considered a great anti-aging supplement I believe and is of course an anti-oxidant, so... maybe it counteracts the NO free radicals? I liked Blueprint. Pricey for 20 days though.
 
Word from Dr. Houser (who helped formulate Blue Print) is that a new version of BP will be out sometime soon. Also a new MAN test booster as well.
 
Why doesn't someone pony up and give me two bottles of this stuff to log? Seriously, I'm a MAN groupie, and pimp Clout more than anyone, but I just can't bring myself to pony up, and it seems no one else can either.
 
I said it before Poison, MAN should have hired you as a rep a long time ago. You have convinced many people to order MAN product's, especially Clout. I have used it for the last few years thanks to you. Although I am currently trying MST Ragnarok.

I have used BLUEPRINT for 20 days. I my experience was much the same as slow-mun. But I did not notice any increase in pain threshold.
 
I said it before Poison, MAN should have hired you as a rep a long time ago. You have convinced many people to order MAN product's, especially Clout. I have used it for the last few years thanks to you. Although I am currently trying MST Ragnarok.

I have used BLUEPRINT for 20 days. I my experience was much the same as slow-mun. But I did not notice any increase in pain threshold.

Interesting thing about that......I have been taking Blue Print for the last 30 days(I'm a 60 day run)and I had a minor surgery to remove a cyst last week. I was prescribed 5mg hydrocodone for the pain following the removal and I honestly feel that Agmatine Sulfate poteniated the narcotic effects of the hydrocodone. I was able to use 5mg twice a day and feel intoxicated for about 6 hours at a time. Typically, it would take a good deal more to do anything, b/c I bult a rather large tolerance to opiates waiting for a surgery folloing a stint in Afghanistan. I'm not telling anyone to try this, but it was definitely something I noticed............
 
glsa17!!! How are you, haven't heard from you in a while!

Anyway, I will be logging Blueprint here very soon!! ;) I can't wait. MAN, Millennium, and AppNut are my favorite companies; I'd love to do a mega-stack with products from all three, but i'll be logging more or less solo.
 
glsa17!!! How are you, haven't heard from you in a while!

Anyway, I will be logging Blueprint here very soon!! ;) I can't wait. MAN, Millennium, and AppNut are my favorite companies; I'd love to do a mega-stack with products from all three, but i'll be logging more or less solo.

Here's the ingredient panel for MAN's new test booster-
An in-depth look at the research and result driven formulation behind PRIMAL-MALE:

Fadogia Agrestis

Saponin extracts have well-defined roles since the introduction of the long-time industry favorite tribulus terrestris and their androgenic mechanism of action which they remain popularized for. Still, a new source for saponins surfaced in 2005 with a more pronounced effect on modifying libido and sexual dysfunction than this previous counterpart. That saponin source was defined as an aqueous extract from the stem of the medicinal plant Fadogia agrestis.

Fadogia serves as a Luteinizing-hormone mimetic (LH-mimetic). In other words, it causes the release of Luteinizing hormone (LH), which in turn signals the Leydig cells (specialized cells of the testes) to produce more Testosterone. This increase in testosterone seems to occur in a dose-dependent fashion, with higher doses offering the greatest benefit.

Increased testosterone and circulating androgens has many ergogenic benefits to the average gym-going athlete. In being the primary anabolic substrate, increases in lean muscle mass and better sense of well-being are expected. As discussed above, the sexual effects are essentially unmatched: increased libido, easier erections, increased ejaculatory volume, and stamina are common reports with users.

In times of inevitable shutdown of your hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular-axis (HPTA) use of anabolic substances, aiding recovery is a feature of this compound.


Eucommia ulmoides (standardized for full spectrum of triterpenoids and phytolipids)

Not to be confused with the widespread sports supplement ingredient Eurycoma longfolia; Eucommia ulmoides - a product used in Chinese medicine for years has never been seen in the sports supplement sector of the dietary supplement industry as a whole.

Traditional Chinese medicine has alternatively referenced Eucommia as Du Zhong because Chinese legend suggests that a person named Du Zhong made great intellectual achievements after taking this herb. It had gone on to earn acclaim as a kidney and liver tonic that strengthened tendons and bones. Later experiments showed therapeutic offering in people with high blood pressure and an ability for the bark of the plant to decrease blood fats.

In recent years, extensive research exists attempting to delve into its ability to decrease high blood pressure without side effects, an exciting property when considering elevation in androgen levels. A study in 2003 using isometric contraction of isolated rat aortic and dog carotid rings, claims to have provided the first evidence for in vitro vasorelaxant action of Eucommia ulmoides, thus confirming the pharmacological basis for its use as an antihypertensive agent. It would be later confirmed that E. ulmoides extract was non-toxic and effective in reducing systolic blood pressure in spontaneous hypertensive rats.

Though eucommia still had a lot of anecdotal feedback suggesting its possession of aphrodisiac properties that seemed to suggest its blood pressure lowering effects were not in vacuum. Afrerall, its mainstay use has really been treating libido and impotence.

2007 marked the release of two rather interesting studies on Eucommia?s phytoandrogen potential. That?s right! While over 2200 studies have been conducted on its estrogen-equivalent, the so-called phytoestrogen, phytoandrogens are brand new. At least twelve compounds have been isolated and suggested to be the potential active constituents to mimicking testosterone in structure and fitting into the androgen receptor, though two have been focused on: the terpenoids and an unusual type of fatty acid. This is suggested to cause the same effects if testosterone itself had inserted itself into the very same receptor.

But, it doesn't stop there! Eucommia also increases the activity of testosterone already present whether this is endogenous or exogenous in nature. This shows its perhaps obvious benefit in PRIMAL MALE for the synergism of ingredients.


Epimedium species [E. sagittatum, E. grandiflorum, E. brevicornum] (standardized for Icariin)

The Chinese herb, named yin yang huo, also translates as licentious Goat Weed, suggesting desired lusty effects. Traditionally, it has been used to increase libido and improve sexual performance by correcting the sexual disorders of erectile dysfunction and premature ejaculation. This may be due to the fact that horny goat weed contains a number of flavonoids, some of which show estrogen-inhibiting properties in vitro. It also may offer insight into why it has shown efficacy in clinical trials in patients with kidney failure for improving sex drive.

The active ingredient in epimedium is thought to be icariin in which PRIMAL MALE has been specifically extracted for. Icariin inhibits the activity of something called Phosphodiesterase 5 (PDE5), an enzyme that breaks down the compound cyclic GMP (cGMP), increasing the levels of cGMP in the penile and other tissues. cGMP is an intermediate en route to production of nitric oxide. This cascade causes the penis to be filled with blood and engorge likely contributing to the libido and sexual performance improvements seen with this herbal extract.

This makes the third tier of the PRIMAL MALE obvious inciting the primal androgenic instincts of what it is to truly be male increasing libido, sex drive, and associated increased testosterone effects.


Indole 3 Carbinol

Several years ago, scientists hypothesized that a preference towards the 2-hydroxylase pathway and the subsequent generation of 2-hydroxyestrone (2-OHE1), results in less toxic metabolites in the circulation, which was subsequently gone on to support a decreased number of breast cancer outcomes if this were the dominant pathway (later, this proved true for prostate cancer as well and men everywhere applauded the benefits for this otherwise troublesome organ). It was also around that same time that the hypothesis of greater estrogenic metabolism via the 16-alpha-hydroxylase enzyme would yield greater amounts of the more potent 16-alpha-hydroxyestrone (16alpha-OHE1) and a larger number of estrogen-dependent cancers would likely be the result.

Although it may seem obvious that a substance consumed over many years by millions worldwide is inherently safe, it has been challenged recently by those with vested interest in its metabolite DIM. The concern with the challenges DIM supporters have offered and it is just plain bad science. Numerous cell culture, animal, and human studies have demonstrated I3C?s safety and tolerability, along with its targeted ability to SUPPRESS estrogen-receptor-sensitive (breast, cervical, and important for this discussion ? prostate) cancer growth, and induce programmed cell death in a variety of tumors, including those associated with breast, prostate, endometrial, leukemia, and colon cancers.

As an aside, the cytochrome P450 enzymatic system within both the liver and intestinal track is actually STRENGTHENED by use of I3C. This classic indole also produces an inherent aromatase inhibitory effect of its own to not necessarily shut estrogen out, BUT channel it via endogenous mechanisms to a more healthy balance.


Zinc Orotate

Zinc is an essential trace element important for optimal testosterone production and release and even fertility. Zinc participates in over 500 different biochemical reactions in the body and therefore has widespread effects.

Of all the minerals, zinc still stands out because of the classic deficiency studies that demonstrated the dramatic interference with normal Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Testiscular Axis (HPTA) function when it was not in optimal quantity. When deficient normal pituitary function is in a state of disarray and the proper hormonal signals are not sent to the testicles to simulate the production of testosterone.

Zinc lowers the amount of aromatase, the enzyme which converts testosterone to estrogen in fatty tissue and the liver. This is how zinc keeps more testosterone circulating freely in the bloodstream.

By enhancing its effect on testosterone and the local environment inside the testes, zinc helps to increase sperm count and makes sperm more energetic by enhancing motility.

All in all, there is an interesting circular relationship being supported by PRIMAL MALE. Not only is zinc required for testosterone, but testosterone has been found to be necessary to maintain levels of zinc in the tissues.

While many of the top sources of zinc are bodybuilder favorites like seafood, meat, and eggs, the average intake is rarely sufficient for the athlete, body composition or otherwise. The problem starts with absorption from these same food stuffs estimated as low as a dismal 2% dependent upon the food it is eaten with. Additional bodybuilder favorites fiber, phyates from vegetables and grains, proteins and certain minerals in usual mixed meals all can impact zinc absorption in a negative way.

This essential problem made supplementation with zinc a no-brainer. Still, the most common form of zinc available in supplemental form is zinc sulfate, likely present in many multivitamins commonly employed by many the diligent athlete. Although it?s the least expensive zinc supplement and thereby the primary choice of manufacturers, it is also the least easily absorbed and can upset the stomach. Zinc monomethionine was later popularized during the touting of ZMA? supplements during the late 90s. Still, of all the mineral salts available, orotate formulations are the best absorbed.


Copper Orotate

Copper is a trace mineral that is imperative to utilize iron, which is ultimately important for the formation of hemoglobin, the oxygen transport molecule in your blood. It is also part of the antioxidant enzyme superoxide dismutase (SOD) and needed to make adenosine triphosphate (ATP) - the energy the body runs on.

When using supplemental zinc, one must consider the zinc-copper interface. Zinc and copper compete for the same absorption sites and excess of zinc can cause a copper deficiency. Due to the aforementioned chemical reactions pertinent to the athlete, a copper deficiency can have serious consequence.

In one well-known double-blind trial, the combination of zinc and copper in appropriate ratios was responsible for reducing evidence of post-exercise free radical activity. The evolution of free radical research certainly highlights the benefits seen with reduction of reactive oxygen species (ROS) which may be even more important with the inundation of arginine/PUMP products prevalent amongst bodybuilders.

Cupric oxide (CuO) is a form of copper frequently used in vitamin-mineral supplements sold over-the-counter. However, animal studies have shown conclusively that this form of copper is poorly absorbed from the gut; it should therefore not be used in supplements. Several other forms made commercially available including copper sulfate, cupric acetate, and alkaline copper carbonate while better absorbed would still not match the absorptive capacity of the orotic acid salt of zinc. Therefore, in order to match it, adding the same salt only makes sense.


Vitamin B6

Vitamin B6 (pyridoxine) deficiency is common among athletes, even the well-fed. This is unfortunate because pyridoxine is a coenzyme for over 100 enzyme functions in the human body, many of which are in conjunction with zinc in both antioxidant as well as testosterone-regulatory roles.

One can easily make a correlation with poor performance and pyridoxine deficiency as well. Pyridoxine deficiency is commonly associated with fatigue, and in athletes with rigorous training parameters, this is one area we cannot be compromised in.

It can also play a general health role in lowering levels of elevated homocysteine, a byproduct of protein metabolism. Vitamin B6 can also aid kidney health and function and aid mental clarity.
 
oh why'd they have to mess it up with getting the b6 from pyridoxine instead of P-5-P? right up till then it sounded great
 
yeah, depends on how much pyridoxine is in it. if its under 50mg its ok :) the rest of the ingredients are great. The fadogia works so much better than tribulus
 
yeah, depends on how much pyridoxine is in it. if its under 50mg its ok :) the rest of the ingredients are great. The fadogia works so much better than tribulus

Agreed, here's some more info.-
Dosing will look as follows:

Serving Size: 6 MAN Caps

Dosed: 3 caps, 2 times daily

Fadogia aggrestris........................1500mg
Eucommia ulmoides.......................1200mg
Epimedium (SE - 20% Icariin)...........450mg
I3C.............................................300mg
Zinc Orotate..................................30mg
Copper Orotate................................3mg
Vitamin B6 (pyridoxine HCl)................10mg


Suggested dosing:

5 days on, 2 days off

4 weeks for full effect, dose up to 12 weeks.
 
well damn, if that isn't too pricey i'll definitely try it. $40-45 a bottle wouldn't be bad for that. Same fadogia dose as T-force, plus other goodies.
 
oh why'd they have to mess it up with getting the b6 from pyridoxine instead of P-5-P? right up till then it sounded great
Probably to tweak costs.
 
Why 5 on 2 off?
Potent testosterone boosters produce a dramatic increase in both endogenous testosterone production and levels. Nevertheless, there is an upper limit to the amount of testosterone the body can produce and and support. Once this level is reached or breached, the body activates a self-regulating mechanism that leads to inhibition of further testosterone production. This is definitely contra-productive for a product that should elevate testosterone levels. This outcome can be avoided by cycling (effective) testosterone boosters. MAN apparently seeks to avoid the (contra-productive) inhibition of intended endogenous testosterone production by recommending a 5-day-on-2-day-off cycle. Such a cycle would produce elevated-but-stable testosterone levels over the length of the entire cycle, as long as the product (testosterone booster) is effective.
 
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