Maintain gains?

hmatthews50

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Want to go on a pro hormone cycle and was wonder if the post cycle therapy will maintain all if my gains because I only want to cycle 1 time
 
Need lots more info. How long training, age, bf, which PH, how long cycle you running, diet, etc.
Most people can retain 50-80% of their gains if they have everything in check.
 
this also answered my question,

if i can maintain the gains through diet and training and a good PCT i shouldnt be able to worry about anything? count me in
 
Gains are very very very hard to maintain. If they were easy, everyone in this section would be 300 pound monsters.

SOmeone might weigh the same after PCT, but guarantee they have added fat and lost muscle. Then in the following months they slowly lose the rest of their gains (I would say this happens 75% of the time). Don't be fooled, gains from anabolics are very very hard to maintain. After a handful of cycles I went natty for a while and was only able to maintain 10 lbs. And this is after many cycles. And I have kept track of every macro and workout for years and years. So when you see people putting on 20 lbs during a cycle, that is not maintainable.
 
If I were to only run one cycle ever, this is what I would do. Bulk all out. Then in PCT, continue to bulk. You are going to get fat, but if you want to maintain as much as possible this is what you are going to have to do to try to hold as much muscle as possible. And don't cut for 2-3 months after PCT. If you cut after PCT you will lose your gains. So 3 months after PCT cut for a while and see what is left of your gains.
 
warbird01 said:
Gains are very very very hard to maintain. If they were easy, everyone in this section would be 300 pound monsters.

SOmeone might weigh the same after PCT, but guarantee they have added fat and lost muscle. Then in the following months they slowly lose the rest of their gains (I would say this happens 75% of the time). Don't be fooled, gains from anabolics are very very hard to maintain. After a handful of cycles I went natty for a while and was only able to maintain 10 lbs. And this is after many cycles. And I have kept track of every macro and workout for years and years. So when you see people putting on 20 lbs during a cycle, that is not maintainable.
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warbird01 said:
If I were to only run one cycle ever, this is what I would do. Bulk all out. Then in PCT, continue to bulk. You are going to get fat, but if you want to maintain as much as possible this is what you are going to have to do to try to hold as much muscle as possible. And don't cut for 2-3 months after PCT. If you cut after PCT you will lose your gains. So 3 months after PCT cut for a while and see what is left of your gaincycling TE]

Wow , **** this makes ke see everything on a whole other level. I dont plan on cycling often or actually much at all... As you know im going to be on halo then see where im at then if im not happy enough i would do a simple anavar cycle... I thought that if i did a few light cycles i could get big and maintain most of the gains while being lean year round on a good diet.... Idk whst to do with my life now hahahaha ... Everything that i do will wither away into nothing if i dont keep cycling then...
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I mean maybe you are a genetic freak who responds to anabolics exceptionally. You can only find out my taking them though. There are some people that cycle on this forum that can keep lean. But that has more to do with genetics than their diet training IMO. I always try to stay lean off cycle and no matter what I do, I put on fat.
 
hmatthews50 said:
Want to go on a pro hormone cycle and was wonder if the post cycle therapy will maintain all if my gains because I only want to cycle 1 time
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Let's take a look at the science aspect.

Steroids mainly cause the muscle to enlarge in most situations (aka cycles )

While you can hold on to muscle you already had but actual growth is another story completely.

Believe it or not when you come off you pretty much lose everything except for increased nuculi. Which is permanent. This allows more growth to be achieved naturally.

CNS based strength components can be kept as well.

The main cause for this is an intense drop in igf1 which means less satellite cell pro which means you can't maintain gains you made. Amongst other factors .

Consider also serms also decrease igf1 . While necessary to recover they only effect the hormonal side of pct and slowly at that. Your body will probably get back into homeostasis (normalized ) after about 4 to as long as 12 weeks after you come off.

Now...If you were to be on test long enough for your body to .....not care about your natural production ( 8 to 10 months) while site inject ing mgf, and taking gh then you could very well get some permanent gains.


The enlargement effect will probably dissipate in normal situations in about 6 months. You may not even notice unless progress pictures are taken. Maybe not even then because of the nuculi helping you build new muscle.

Even with steroids there are no shortcuts.
You need to take several drugs to have keep able gains.
 
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