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M1T I'm a human sponge

IdahoSpud

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OK, this is my third cycle of M1T. This time no stacking 4AD trans or EC.

I once again shot up 10 lbs in 6 days, and every f**king bit of it is water. I'm eating like a horse (1000 semi-clean cal over maintenance) and after the water weight came on, gaining *nothing*. Yes the strength is up.

When I come off, I'll do PCT, and lose everything and probably I'll be right back where I started. Getting discouraged.

Spongebob.
 
well ... you could always try staying away from m1t and try something that gives less wet gains and doesn't have the same effect on your body as rat poison :)
 
Are you sure you did not get some cheap Dbol for real M1T, I've heard such thing happening before, Dbol is cheaper than M1T so it is Methyl Test.
Just MHO.
Carlito
 
glenihan said:
well ... you could always try staying away from m1t and try something that gives less wet gains and doesn't have the same effect on your body as rat poison :)
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No **** lol

M1T is junk for the most part. It's more toxic than most real AAS and most of the time the downsides aren't worth the gains.
 
Carlito said:
Are you sure you did not get some cheap Dbol for real M1T, I've heard such thing happening before, Dbol is cheaper than M1T so it is Methyl Test.
Just MHO.
Carlito
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cheaper you say. . .
 
Hmmm, I *thought* I posted this in the 'prohormone' section, not in the AAS section...

Anyway, you guys all have good points. Honestly I don't think it's worth the hassle, even though I don't have many of the sides that most others experience. I just don't see the results.

When M1T is *illegal*, I'll probably go with Stanazolol.
 
glenihan u should start a club against m1t because every thread I see about M1T ur reply is right there bashing it haha.
 
haha, i know it comes across like that rebel ... my problem with it is that it really has horrible effects on hdl/ldl levels and when used more than say 2x a year, it can really have deletrious effects that could lead to cardiovascular problems in the future

on top of that many people have problems keeping their gains

i think using m1t 2x a year is ok, provided you respond well to it and can keep your gains

its just i wouldn't recommend it to people when there are other effective options that aren't as harmful available

especially with m1t about to be illegal, and dbol powder not being very expensive..
 
glenihan said:
haha, i know it comes across like that rebel ... my problem with it is that it really has horrible effects on hdl/ldl levels and when used more than say 2x a year, it can really have deletrious effects that could lead to cardiovascular problems in the future

on top of that many people have problems keeping their gains

i think using m1t 2x a year is ok, provided you respond well to it and can keep your gains

its just i wouldn't recommend it to people when there are other effective options that aren't as harmful available

especially with m1t about to be illegal, and dbol powder not being very expensive..
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I like that post ill drink to that haha.
 
IdahoSpud said:
Hmmm, I *thought* I posted this in the 'prohormone' section, not in the AAS section...

Anyway, you guys all have good points. Honestly I don't think it's worth the hassle, even though I don't have many of the sides that most others experience. I just don't see the results.

When M1T is *illegal*, I'll probably go with Stanazolol.
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I'd pick anadrol or dbol over winny. IMO winny is not even close to the effectivness of the other two and it makes many peoples joints ache.
 
Jstrong20 said:
I'd pick anadrol or dbol over winny. IMO winny is not even close to the effectivness of the other two and it makes many peoples joints ache.
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Kinda tough to compare winny with d-bol or a-bombs because winny is more of a cutting drug while the others are more beneficial for bulking.
 
Iron Warrior said:
Kinda tough to compare winny with d-bol or a-bombs because winny is more of a cutting drug while the others are more beneficial for bulking.
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:goodpost:

winny will not do what M1T does, there, spongebob. dbol is similar, and much better w/ an AI.

also, you might be one of those who needs to INCREASE cals during PCT. most keep them about the same, but if you drop cals you'll drop pounds faster than a horny englishman in a strip club.
 
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IdahoSpud said:
OK, this is my third cycle of M1T. This time no stacking 4AD trans or EC.

I once again shot up 10 lbs in 6 days, and every f**king bit of it is water. I'm eating like a horse (1000 semi-clean cal over maintenance) and after the water weight came on, gaining *nothing*. Yes the strength is up.
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If you are gaining strength you are gaining muscle. Are you doing the bandwagon (pointless) 2 week cycles ?
 
pu12en12g said:
If you are gaining strength you are gaining muscle. Are you doing the bandwagon (pointless) 2 week cycles ?
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how long would like him to do an m1t cycle for?

if you look in the general chat forum there is a link to a guy (kid) that used m1t for 12 weeks and developed jaundice ... yeah this is definitely a compound i want to use for more than 2 weeks ...
 
glenihan said:
how long would like him to do an m1t cycle for?

if you look in the general chat forum there is a link to a guy (kid) that used m1t for 12 weeks and developed jaundice ... yeah this is definitely a compound i want to use for more than 2 weeks ...
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Read the M1T FAQ
 
IdahoSpud said:
Hmmm, I *thought* I posted this in the 'prohormone' section, not in the AAS section...

Anyway, you guys all have good points. Honestly I don't think it's worth the hassle, even though I don't have many of the sides that most others experience. I just don't see the results.

When M1T is *illegal*, I'll probably go with Stanazolol.
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Winstrol, by itself??? You may get a few posts suggesting otherwise ;)
 
why? i know what i posted is correct ... which m1t faq are you referring to anyway, and how old is it?
does it reflect the info now available about what m1t does to hdl/ldl numbers, lipid profiles, and liver values as a whole?


not to sound like a dick, but i'm not some newb you need to tell to read an faq, i know what i'm talking about
 
2 week cycles are pointless. Ask any "experienced" user.
 
alright "experienced" users please come forward, come forward if you have had bloodwork done and let us all hear how wonderful it turned out
come forward if your gains did NOT stop coming after 2-3 weeks
come forward if of all the weight you gained, at least half of it was not water

please all these users come forward and show everyone why you need SOOOO much more than 2 weeks for m1t (and teach me why its safe and a good idea too while your at it) please please i beg you experienced users ... school me in your ways
 
pu12en12g said:
2 week cycles are pointless. Ask any "experienced" user.
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Two week cycles are pointless with AAS that have long 1/2 lives (Cyp's, Enanth's, etc) b/c they take 2 weeks to kick in...but for something like M1T with it's short half and the fact that it kicks in really fast (days), two week cycles will yield gains.
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
two week cycles will yield gains.
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Agreed. And a lower dose, longer cycle will yield more permanent gains, which is the topic of this thread.

People considering 2-week cycles of M1T "to be on the safe side" :trout: shouldn't be considering a cycle of anything at all... period.
 
pu12en12g said:
.... "to be on the safe side"....
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The crux of the problem with M1T.

I will never use it b/c I'd like to stay on the safe side.

But, in two weeks, if you could put on a solid 1-2lbs of LBM, you're doing pretty good. I just think M1T is not the best option for a cycle and I would recommend it to anybody, personally. It's only real benifit comes from jumpstarting a cycle, and at that point, I'd rather go with d-bol which I can go 4-5 weeks with.
 
pu12en12g said:
Agreed. And a lower dose, longer cycle will yield more permanent gains, which is the topic of this thread.

People considering 2-week cycles of M1T "to be on the safe side" :trout: shouldn't be considering a cycle of anything at all... period.
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Three weeks is optimal. it was regarded in the past that 2 weeks would suffice. The side effects are too harsh to consider much over four especially above 10mgs. Most users experience less gains after week three. If you want to solidify gains use something else, or use it to jumpstart a cycle. In addition frontloading something like 4ad would help keep gains, also you have to consider proper diet, and training. The bulk of the weight gain is water similar to d-bol, which is why it is also used to jumpstart cycles. I would say after two weeks on that Hdl/Ldl levels would be at what a doctor would say severe levels. If you shoose to run it longer you are carrying the risk of permanent cardiovascular damage. I am not a doctor, this is based of what I discern to be legitmate research from fellow members of this board, and their blood work.
 
pu12en12g said:
If you are gaining strength you are gaining muscle. Are you doing the bandwagon (pointless) 2 week cycles ?
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IMO that is not neccessarily true.

You also increase strength if you gain fat and/or retain more water.
 
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