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LTL has fallen to the darkside!

Correction: I called it Now ultra omega but it's super omega
superbeast668 said:
Better to have and not need than to not have and need. Ltl, celery seed and Hawthorne Berry help also if your not using already. I was taking like 3g celery seed and 2g HB a day
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yep, which is why I recommended Cycle Assist cause it has both of these fine ingredients!
MrKleen73 said:
Okay here is what you do, call the local blood bank and go donate a double plasma + whole blood or red cells, it will take about an hour they pull plasma out and add saline back in as well as taking a full blood donation at the same time. Basically what is going on is your hematocrit is probably really high EI the amount of cells you have and that creates a much higher pressure also your bloods viscosity is so thick it causes issues with blood pressure. You will immediately feel better after doing this there is no weakness or anything because you get the fluids added back into you and even with them draining the whole blood you will still have normal or above normal red blood cell count from being on the gear.
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I know a lot of people on gear will regularly donate blood but this is new to me, sounds much more in-depth. Do you think this route is much more effective?
 
kingjameskjf said:
Correction: I called it Now ultra omega but it's super omegayep, which is why I recommended Cycle Assist cause it has both of these fine ingredients!I know a lot of people on gear will regularly donate blood but this is new to me, sounds much more in-depth. Do you think this route is much more effective?
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When I was on gear and some orals, I was having BP headaches regularly and generally feeling a bit sluggish. I honestly felt better immediately after giving the blood and went the next day for a leg workout and had no headache at all. My Hematocrit was 53 and 52 is on the very high side of normal you don't really want to be over that.

When on steroids your bone marrow produces a lot more red blood cells which is one of the reasons for increased blood pressure. Pushing more matter through the same size hose it is gonna build up pressure.
 
MrKleen73 said:
When I was on gear and some orals, I was having BP headaches regularly and generally feeling a bit sluggish. I honestly felt better immediately after giving the blood and went the next day for a leg workout and had no headache at all. My Hematocrit was 53 and 52 is on the very high side of normal you don't really want to be over that. When on steroids your bone marrow produces a lot more red blood cells which is one of the reasons for increased blood pressure. Pushing more matter through the same size hose it is gonna build up pressure.
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Sure I understand that but I was referring to the whole double plasma saline thing over just regular blood donation?
 
kingjameskjf said:
Sure I understand that but I was referring to the whole double plasma saline thing over just regular blood donation?
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Well if you only remove blood and get no saline put back in you are still stuck with the same viscosity of sludge running through your veins, but when they remove blood cells, and platelets then replace both with the saline it thins the blood back out more. One of my buddies got his done full blood only at first and it took a week or so for him to feel much of a difference his body had to put the water back into the blood stream before the pressure issues stopped. After I got mine and told him about it he did his that way the next time he started getting his headaches and it was pretty close to immediate relief. He also has blood pressure issues when not on gear so his was worse. Not to mention it is very rehydrating to have the saline put in and can save 4 times as many lives as a regular donation or so the told me at the blood bank.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Well if you only remove blood and get no saline put back in you are still stuck with the same viscosity of sludge running through your veins, but when they remove blood cells, and platelets then replace both with the saline it thins the blood back out more. One of my buddies got his done full blood only at first and it took a week or so for him to feel much of a difference his body had to put the water back into the blood stream before the pressure issues stopped. After I got mine and told him about it he did his that way the next time he started getting his headaches and it was pretty close to immediate relief. He also has blood pressure issues when not on gear so his was worse. Not to mention it is very rehydrating to have the saline put in and can save 4 times as many lives as a regular donation or so the told me at the blood bank.
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Ok, that makes sense. I know your body will eventually return to homeostasis but it certainly sounds like I need to give this saline method a try. Thank bro.
 
Yeah try it out and tell us if you notice much difference. I didn't do the whole blood only but the other one I felt refreshed when I was done...
 
Jeff, come back to the good side without naughty drugs where none of these things happen.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Yeah try it out and tell us if you notice much difference. I didn't do the whole blood only but the other one I felt refreshed when I was done...
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I will. I've been needing to anyways, I guess I've just been lazy.
bdcc said:
Jeff, come back to the good side without naughty drugs where none of these things happen.
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You know where you can go mister!
 
Pinned 325 test e
Dosed 20 sd-10
Dosed 10 Nolva
Dosed 12.5 aromasin

Great info all. Kleen comes through spitting knowledge as usual! If this keeps up I may just have to look into the giving blood for saline thing. I hate needles so giving blood might be a bit much. I say this right after pinning test! Lmao

Well believe it or not guys I caught another fûcking cold. This is truly unbelievable for me. I used to get sick like 2 times a year. I'm not sure If it is just the same cold or what. Could the steroids really be killing my immune system this bad? May skip the gym tonight. I have the weekend off work so I will be hitting it hard tomorrow and Sunday.
 
Just to throw it out there I'm taking glutamine and plenty of vitamin C already! :)
 
LiveToLift said:
Just to throw it out there I'm taking glutamine and plenty of vitamin C already! :)
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Well I'm out of ideas then! Lol. Feel better man
 
Day 76

Weight 186.5 (+24.3)

Went in and rocked a light weight high rep shoulder workout capped with 15 minutes on the treadmill for light cardio. Dropped the hemavol and it seemed to really help the headache issue. Not too mention I saw no difference in pump. Matter of fact pump was pretty good today. I did take some focus Xt as my pre though and I have to say I like the stuff so far. Going to concentrate on toning and shredding from here out. I think I've added a good amount of size and now I need to strip some fat down and see what we have.
 
LiveToLift said:
Day 76

Weight 186.5 (+24.3)

Went in and rocked a light weight high rep shoulder workout capped with 15 minutes on the treadmill for light cardio. Dropped the hemavol and it seemed to really help the headache issue. Not too mention I saw no difference in pump. Matter of fact pump was pretty good today. I did take some focus Xt as my pre though and I have to say I like the stuff so far. Going to concentrate on toning and shredding from here out. I think I've added a good amount of size and now I need to strip some fat down and see what we have.
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Your coworkers have got to be asking what your on lol. +25 is Awesome bro! Keep killing it Brotha!
 
LiveToLift said:
Day 76Weight 186.5 (+24.3)Went in and rocked a light weight high rep shoulder workout capped with 15 minutes on the treadmill for light cardio. Dropped the hemavol and it seemed to really help the headache issue. Not too mention I saw no difference in pump. Matter of fact pump was pretty good today. I did take some focus Xt as my pre though and I have to say I like the stuff so far. Going to concentrate on toning and shredding from here out. I think I've added a good amount of size and now I need to strip some fat down and see what we have.
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Don't worry too much about losing fat until after your cycle is done brotha! Maximize your gains while on your gear while you got it. JMO though.
 
kingjameskjf said:
Don't worry too much about losing fat until after your cycle is done brotha! Maximize your gains while on your gear while you got it. JMO though.
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Im gonna agree here i have put on a little chub while on my test cycle but u really want to take advantage of putting on mass while u are ON. Its similar to buying a lambo and driving the speed limit, a little pointless. Drive that lambo bro and drive it fast as hell because when that lambo turns to a geo metro you wont be able to speed lol
 
Yea, I may have worded it a bit wrong just will be tightening up the diet and changing my lifting routine just slightly. I went in today and had way more fun doing the higher rep work.
 
LiveToLift said:
Yea, I may have worded it a bit wrong just will be tightening up the diet and changing my lifting routine just slightly. I went in today and had way more fun doing the higher rep work.
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Have you looked into PHAT thats what i have been using on cycle and i love it because you get power days with your lower rep heavy weight and hypertrophy days with lighter weight high reps
 
live to lift said:
Have you looked into PHAT thats what i have been using on cycle and i love it because you get power days with your lower rep heavy weight and hypertrophy days with lighter weight high reps
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I love PHAT. Make great gains on it drug free. Definitely doing it next cycle.
 
live to lift said:
Have you looked into PHAT thats what i have been using on cycle and i love it because you get power days with your lower rep heavy weight and hypertrophy days with lighter weight high reps
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I try to do something similar and find that whenever I hit the main body parts twice a week, I get much better growth.
 
live to lift said:
Have you looked into PHAT thats what i have been using on cycle and i love it because you get power days with your lower rep heavy weight and hypertrophy days with lighter weight high reps
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Ive heard of it, the concept sounds great. Ive yet to try it out though. Any recommended reading?
 
Definitely looking into that routine bro. I was starting to get tired of the routine I'm doing and am actually way more motivated to get this cycle back on track now. I usually don't get sick like this it has been a rough winter for me.
 
Time to post nudes yet Jeff?
 
Day 77

Weight 187.4 (+25.2)

Bis/back. Kept with the lighter weight higher rep scheme. Felt pretty good on the gym today. Great pump and headache free. Back was pretty damn sore by the time the gym session was over.

Standing easy bar curl
Heaviest set 85 for 10

Lat pulldown
Heaviest set 160-10

Incline db curl
30-12
30-10x2

Bent over tbar row
Heaviest set 100 for 10

Cable low row
Heaviest 160-12

20 mins incline speed walk
 
LiveToLift said:
Day 77

Weight 187.4 (+25.2)

Bis/back. Kept with the lighter weight higher rep scheme. Felt pretty good on the gym today. Great pump and headache free. Back was pretty damn sore by the time the gym session was over.

Standing easy bar curl
Heaviest set 85 for 10

Lat pulldown
Heaviest set 160-10

Incline db curl
30-12
30-10x2

Bent over tbar row
Heaviest set 100 for 10

Cable low row
Heaviest 160-12

20 mins incline speed walk
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Nice! Hope you're feeling better now. I never tried incline curls before last week. I really like the stretch I get at the bottom

Don't think I didn't notice you ignore my request.
 
Damn close to 30... I practically recomped... Mines a flop :-( next is better with my home brew
 
Airborne42 said:
My cycle... Was sayin he killed it this cycle for sure. Proud
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Gotcha gotcha. Yeah, this cycle has really gone exceptionally well.
 
Sounds like you are killing it. Gonna have to look into phat. I am sitting at orthodox now to see what is up with my shoulder.
 
Clear your inbox ltl!
 
Day 78

Pinned 325 test e
Dosed nolva 10
Dosed aromasin 12.5
Dosed 20 sd-10

Busy day but managed to sneak into the gym right after work today. Great day overall today to say the least. Went in and hit chest and tris with emphasis on incline work. Weight on the lifts was again lighter with higher reps which led to an incredible pump and looking huge. Had a scoop and a half of alphamine a couple hours before the gym and SS agmatine about 45 mins pre. This pre combo worked great today, I just wasn't seeing as much out of the hemavol as I did at first so I decided to mix it up. Pin was quick and easy in left quad. Finished the workout with 20 mins of incline speed walk and 10 mins of weighted abs.
 
LiveToLift said:
Day 78

Pinned 325 test e
Dosed nolva 10
Dosed aromasin 12.5
Dosed 20 sd-10

Busy day but managed to sneak into the gym right after work today. Great day overall today to say the least. Went in and hit chest and tris with emphasis on incline work. Weight on the lifts was again lighter with higher reps which led to an incredible pump and looking huge. Had a scoop and a half of alphamine a couple hours before the gym and SS agmatine about 45 mins pre. This pre combo worked great today, I just wasn't seeing as much out of the hemavol as I did at first so I decided to mix it up. Pin was quick and easy in left quad. Finished the workout with 20 mins of incline speed walk and 10 mins of weighted abs.
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Beautiful signature and pic Jeff! (=
 
LiveToLift said:
Day 78

Pinned 325 test e
Dosed nolva 10
Dosed aromasin 12.5
Dosed 20 sd-10

Busy day but managed to sneak into the gym right after work today. Great day overall today to say the least. Went in and hit chest and tris with emphasis on incline work. Weight on the lifts was again lighter with higher reps which led to an incredible pump and looking huge. Had a scoop and a half of alphamine a couple hours before the gym and SS agmatine about 45 mins pre. This pre combo worked great today, I just wasn't seeing as much out of the hemavol as I did at first so I decided to mix it up. Pin was quick and easy in left quad. Finished the workout with 20 mins of incline speed walk and 10 mins of weighted abs.
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What!!!PES reppin!very nice.
 
Awesome news LTL! I know how much you believe in PES. Perfect match!
 
Grats my brother u deserve it. Who was first to ever call it ;-)
 
Congrats brotha man! Long time coming from our R&D days huh?????? Lmao! Super happy for you, great team of guys and supplements that you can get behind also like guys ;)

- Valdez
 
LiveToLift said:
Day 78

Pinned 325 test e
Dosed nolva 10
Dosed aromasin 12.5
Dosed 20 sd-10

Busy day but managed to sneak into the gym right after work today. Great day overall today to say the least. Went in and hit chest and tris with emphasis on incline work. Weight on the lifts was again lighter with higher reps which led to an incredible pump and looking huge. Had a scoop and a half of alphamine a couple hours before the gym and SS agmatine about 45 mins pre. This pre combo worked great today, I just wasn't seeing as much out of the hemavol as I did at first so I decided to mix it up. Pin was quick and easy in left quad. Finished the workout with 20 mins of incline speed walk and 10 mins of weighted abs.
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Erbudy in da club reppin now! Lol great pick for PES for sure!
 
Congrats broham
 
Finally the man gets a rep spot with the company he embraces.
It's well deserved & I wish both parties nothing but success; & LTL I know you'll do great!

-Purus Labs Rep
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