LTL has fallen to the darkside!

that's definitely good! how's the pip, any better this week?

Not really unfortunately. Tried to heat up the solution but by the time I was able to pin it I think it had cooled so I think it had no effect. The PIP seems to be much more manageable in the glute compared to quad though so it hasn't been too bad.
 
Not really unfortunately. Tried to heat up the solution but by the time I was able to pin it I think it had cooled so I think it had no effect. The PIP seems to be much more manageable in the glute compared to quad though so it hasn't been too bad.

Well, maybe it'll get better the more you do it. Try the heating pad too.
 
LiveToLift said:
Not really unfortunately. Tried to heat up the solution but by the time I was able to pin it I think it had cooled so I think it had no effect. The PIP seems to be much more manageable in the glute compared to quad though so it hasn't been too bad.

Pin your Delts yet?
 
superbeast668 said:
Pin your Delts yet?

Hell no! If I had 1 inch needles I might think about it. No way I'm sticking a inch and a half in my delt... I'm sticking to quads and glutes.
 
LiveToLift said:
Hell no! If I had 1 inch needles I might think about it. No way I'm sticking a inch and a half in my delt... I'm sticking to quads and glutes.

Hahaha still thinkin bout it.
 
Not really unfortunately. Tried to heat up the solution but by the time I was able to pin it I think it had cooled so I think it had no effect. The PIP seems to be much more manageable in the glute compared to quad though so it hasn't been too bad.

Couldn't that also be a sourcing thing? From what I've heard and read, the better the source the smoother the fluid and less pip.

- Valdez
 
Valdez said:
Couldn't that also be a sourcing thing? From what I've heard and read, the better the source the smoother the fluid and less pip.

- Valdez

It could be alot of things but yea the source is one of them. I know of a source that 75% of the people that have used him get unbearable pip. But others are fine. I think it has to do with the solvents and how they differ batch to batch.
 
It could be alot of things but yea the source is one of them. I know of a source that 75% of the people that have used him get unbearable pip. But others are fine. I think it has to do with the solvents and how they differ batch to batch.

Hmmm... Maybe try a different source next time LTL

- Valdez
 
Danb2285 said:
It could be alot of things but yea the source is one of them. I know of a source that 75% of the people that have used him get unbearable pip. But others are fine. I think it has to do with the solvents and how they differ batch to batch.

Alch content and what oil base. My guy is stupid cheap and his product is clean and smooth with almost no pip. Fire if you ask me
 
Valdez said:
Hmmm... Maybe try a different source next time LTL

- Valdez

I'm only a few pins in and I can deal with the pain. I will see how it goes, got plenty of time left. Thanks guys.
 
Day 17

Back/bis. Strength was up across the board and alpha feeling was up as well. Didn't get a chance to weigh in today. Pump wasn't as good as a few days ago but I still felt fuller and jacked.

Bent over row (barbell)
10-135
9-165
8-185
6-195 (PR)
8-155

DB curl
8-40
7-45
4-55

Hammer curl
10-40
8-45
7-50 (PR reps)

Bent over hammer row
10-70
8-100
8-120
7-130 (PR)
8-105

Close grip pulldown
10-140
7-160
5-160
8-140

Reverse cable curl
8-50
7-57.5

15 mins of AB work.
 
I'm no fortune teller but I see many PR's in your future lol
 
PIP is from High BA content most of the time, it makes the test bond faster to the ester and requires less heat. UG labs use more to make more test faster and it is cheaper so they go that route. Dilute with Sterile Grape Seed Oil and it will smooth out like butter.

Slintensity is based off of several ingredients that increase insulin sensitivity but REQUIRE an insulin spike to be fully effective. Both Gymnema Sylvestre and Banaba the 2 highest dosed ingredients in Slintensity are in this category for certain. The increased insulin sensitivity is based of of an effective dose which one cap already has in it. When you increase the amount of carbs over 60mg there is not a need to increase the dose of the product to compensate for this. You have already increased insulin sensitivity and the higher amounts of carbs simply increase the amount of insulin you are producing. The 60g of carbs is a MINIMUM recommendation based on the amount of insulin and nutrient shuttling you need to take advantage of the product but it is in no way the maximum recommendation. I would really only recommend an extra dose when you are in a carb refeed have already slammed the body with insulin during that day and are trying to re-establish the original or increased amount of sensitivity since sensitivity decreases through the day and with each exposure through out the day as well. Also keep in mind that these products have effective half lives of around 3-4 hours if I remember correctly so 2 doses in your 8 hour feeding window should be more than sufficient LTL.
 
LiveToLift said:
Day 17

Back/bis. Strength was up across the board and alpha feeling was up as well. Didn't get a chance to weigh in today. Pump wasn't as good as a few days ago but I still felt fuller and jacked.

Bent over row (barbell)
10-135
9-165
8-185
6-195 (PR)
8-155

DB curl
8-40
7-45
4-55

Hammer curl
10-40
8-45
7-50 (PR reps)

Bent over hammer row
10-70
8-100
8-120
7-130 (PR)
8-105

Close grip pulldown
10-140
7-160
5-160
8-140

Reverse cable curl
8-50
7-57.5

15 mins of AB work.

Nice curl #s mane!
 
Yeah he can curl like a mofo! Pictures looked. Bad ass by the way LTL!
 
Kleen to the rescue again!

Thanks Aaron! Numbers are rising!
 
I'm only a few pins in and I can deal with the pain. I will see how it goes, got plenty of time left. Thanks guys.

For sure bud I meant next go around

- Valdez
 
Valdez said:
For sure bud I meant next go around

- Valdez

No prob bro. Just to find legit product was a win in itself! :-)
 
Try the grape seed oil.thing?

- Valdez
 
Valdez said:
Try the grape seed oil.thing?

- Valdez

Wonder how I would dilute with that? Put it in syringe before pulling test?
 
LiveToLift said:
Wonder how I would dilute with that? Put it in syringe before pulling test?

Just google cutting test with Grape seed oil. Google knows everything.
 
Just google cutting test with Grape seed oil. Google knows everything.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Danb2285 again."

I tried. lol
 
hahaha funny thing just happened at work. My boss came up to me and poked his finger into my chest and then into my right shoulder. I said "what was that for?" and he told me "just checking to see if thats all you or if you stufed your shirt with balloons or something".

lol
 
Day 18 update

Just pinned slightly over 1 ML of test e in right quad. Very little pain but I couldn't quite get the needle the full 1.5 in. when I got about 1.25 in I started to feel a harsh sting. I'm thinking its because that is where I pinned just a week ago and its some scar tissue? Anyway injected at that depth and pulled with no blood. This pin was flawless on prep, I literally got everything ready and one shot the b1tch. No nerves or anxiousness when going for it and hands were steady.

Libido continues to skyrocket. It's getting a bit out of control! My girl says how come you are usually the opposite on cycle? Must be the cycle assist working better this time. ;-)

I do think weight is probably down a bit. I'm not feeling as big today but looking more vascular and tone so guess the AI is really in high gear. Hitting shoulders and possibly hammies after work. Depends on the PIP.
 
LiveToLift said:
Day 18 update

Just pinned slightly over 1 ML of test e in right quad. Very little pain but I couldn't quite get the needle the full 1.5 in. when I got about 1.25 in I started to feel a harsh sting. I'm thinking its because that is where I pinned just a week ago and its some scar tissue? Anyway injected at that depth and pulled with no blood. This pin was flawless on prep, I literally got everything ready and one shot the b1tch. No nerves or anxiousness when going for it and hands were steady.

Libido continues to skyrocket. It's getting a bit out of control! My girl says how come you are usually the opposite on cycle? Must be the cycle assist working better this time. ;-)

I do think weight is probably down a bit. I'm not feeling as big today but looking more vascular and tone so guess the AI is really in high gear. Hitting shoulders and possibly hammies after work. Depends on the PIP.

There you go! Just needed to get used to it I guess. Hopefully the pip starts to get better now
 
On my first cycle man I had terrible PIP. Took 3 maybe four weeks for my muscles to adjust then it was just every once in awhile. Stick with it bro your muscles will get used to it!
 
Lukef2000 said:
On my first cycle man I had terrible PIP. Took 3 maybe four weeks for my muscles to adjust then it was just every once in awhile. Stick with it bro your muscles will get used to it!

Been tryin to PM u
 
Airborne42 said:
Pinned today?

It's my Friday...
Decided to do it before work because I will have my son tomorrow all day and I don't like pinning when he's home..
 
LiveToLift said:
It's my Friday...
Decided to do it before work because I will have my son tomorrow all day and I don't like pinning when he's home..

Ooooooh great idea brother! Not a good pin?
 
Airborne42 said:
Ooooooh great idea brother! Not a good pin?

Damn man what you just skim my log ho bag???
 
LiveToLift said:
Damn man what you just skim my log ho bag???

Lol no dick!!! Just seems like it from your last post. I just woke up lol
 
Lukef2000 said:
Should be all good now bro!

Will hit u up in a lil... Been tryin to give u that advice on bench. I.gotta go lift
 
Airborne42 said:
Lol no dick!!! Just seems like it from your last post. I just woke up lol

Pin was good and fast and no pain right now.
 
LiveToLift said:
Pin was good and fast and no pain right now.

Oh good... My right quad is Hella sore... Gonna deadlift lol or try
 
Well to cut it with the oil you can either pull 1cc for 1cc or 1cc for .5cc If not filling the pin all the way pull plunger back all the way and use the extra room to shake / mix the oil. Otherwise if you know how much oil is left in your vial since you keep track of your shots then mix in the amount you have pulled and then use simple mathematics to equate mg per ml. EI pulled 5ml out of a 10ml bottle replace 5ml of GSO then pull two ml to get what is now in a ml dose. If 15ml of 200mg left and 5 used then add 5 then 15ml x200mg = 3000mg add 5ml GSO oil then 3000mg / 20ml solution = 150mg per ml or in a 10ml bottle say you have used 3 ml, so 7ml x 200 = 1400ml add 3ml GSO oil is 1400/10 = 140mg per ml with new mix.

Remember when you go to add the GSO to a vial you need to suck out the same amount of air before trying to add it. IE suck out 3 ml air then add 3 ml GSO. Depending on how much Benzoil Alchohol is in it you may only need to dilute slightly or 2/1 I would start with a lower amount then increase if needed.

Like I said you can mix them in the pin if you are not using the whole 3ml just pull back far enough to have air in it so you can shake it a bit to get them to mix.
 
Airborne "Oh good... My right quad is Hella sore... Gonna deadlift lol or try"

There is no try there is only work through it and it will loosen up.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Well to cut it with the oil you can either pull 1cc for 1cc or 1cc for .5cc If not filling the pin all the way pull plunger back all the way and use the extra room to shake / mix the oil. Otherwise if you know how much oil is left in your vial since you keep track of your shots then mix in the amount you have pulled and then use simple mathematics to equate mg per ml. EI pulled 5ml out of a 10ml bottle replace 5ml of GSO then pull two ml to get what is now in a ml dose. If 15ml of 200mg left and 5 used then add 5 then 15ml x200mg = 3000mg add 5ml GSO oil then 3000mg / 20ml solution = 150mg per ml or in a 10ml bottle say you have used 3 ml, so 7ml x 200 = 1400ml add 3ml GSO oil is 1400/10 = 140mg per ml with new mix.

Remember when you go to add the GSO to a vial you need to suck out the same amount of air before trying to add it. IE suck out 3 ml air then add 3 ml GSO. Depending on how much Benzoil Alchohol is in it you may only need to dilute slightly or 2/1 I would start with a lower amount then increase if needed.

Like I said you can mix them in the pin if you are not using the whole 3ml just pull back far enough to have air in it so you can shake it a bit to get them to mix.

As always thanks Kleen! If the pins continue to give me bad PIP this will come in handy! Jut had my best one yet today though!
 
Airborne42 said:
Oh good... My right quad is Hella sore... Gonna deadlift lol or try

I'm hitting shoulders and even leg work! So ready to hit the weights! Feels awesome knowing I won't have to rush in the gym to get home and pin! Also to be able to pin and do legs on same day is so win! Yea buddy!
 
As always thanks Kleen! If the pins continue to give me bad PIP this will come in handy! Jut had my best one yet today though!

Had some OMFG painful T400 that was excruciating during my self prescribed TRT and did a lot of reading up on it.
 
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