Does anybody notice that when they take oxandrolone they dont lose as many lbs?
That's the point.Does anybody notice that when they take oxandrolone they dont lose as many lbs?
That's the point.
When you take Anavar, and reduce caloric intake in the proper ratios, it allows you to lower your bodyfat, while retaining muscle.
I’m 7 weeks in on Var and I’m around 2k on cals. Only lost 3-5lbs but I’d say I’ve lost 2-3% BF. Are you sure your Oxand is legit?Does anybody notice that when they take oxandrolone they dont lose as many lbs?
that’s the eternal problem with var. often faked or under dosed. I’ve not bothered with primo for that reason.I’m 7 weeks in on Var and I’m around 2k on cals. Only lost 3-5lbs but I’d say I’ve lost 2-3% BF. Are you sure your Oxand is legit?
Yes, its prescribed to me and through a pharmacyI’m 7 weeks in on Var and I’m around 2k on cals. Only lost 3-5lbs but I’d say I’ve lost 2-3% BF. Are you sure your Oxand is legit?
I guess you’re not in AmericaYes, its prescribed to me and through a pharmacy
You can get dr prescribed var in the US. Many trt clinics are doing it.I guess you’re not in America
Incredible.You can get dr prescribed var in the US. Many trt clinics are doing it.
I’m in America its not common but its possible to get it prescribedI guess you’re not in America
No way! It costs about $2 every 50mg from a compounding pharmacyMy orthopedic surgeon prescribed it but my insurance would not cover it. $900 at the pharmacy. No thanks!
No way! It costs about $2 every 50mg from a compounding pharmacyMy orthopedic surgeon prescribed it but my insurance would not cover it. $900 at the pharmacy. No thanks!
holy hell! that's nutsMy orthopedic surgeon prescribed it but my insurance would not cover it. $900 at the pharmacy. No thanks!
Every pharmacy in my area was charging that much - the local ones and the chains. Even my doctor was stunned.No way! It costs about $2 every 50mg from a compounding pharmacy
I agree - I’ve never used it for a cut. There are so many other things that I’d use with diet and cardio.I've never understood why people use var to cut. "
That isn't a standard price.Every pharmacy in my area was charging that much - the local ones and the chains. Even my doctor was stunned.
do tell?I agree - I’ve never used it for a cut. There are so many other things that I’d use with diet and cardio.
It's great for strength just like all other DHT compounds. You can minimize fat gain and maximize strength while bulking.Oxandrolone isnt much of a bulker.. its works really well at holding onto muscle while building strength in a deficit. And apparently it helps burn far around the mid section.
If not as a cutter, what would you use oxandrolone for?
Oxandrolone isnt much of a bulker.. its works really well at holding onto muscle while building strength in a deficit. And apparently it helps burn far around the mid section.
If not as a cutter, what would you use oxandrolone for?
Thanks for your perspectiveIt's great for strength just like all other DHT compounds. You can minimize fat gain and maximize strength while bulking.
But like I said, good var at a high dose really increases your appetite, so that's why it's not great for cutting.
Things like clenbuterol and albuterol and theophylline suppress your appetite while burning fat. You can run cheap test cyp at a relatively low dose with it and you'll retain muscle in a deficit.
There's even simple OTC **** like nicotine lozenges with choline and injectable carnitine that works amazingly well if you dose it right.
You can get more aggressive and use things like T3 and DNP, but that kind of stuff should really be left alone unless you're planning to step on stage.
I always thought oxandrolone was the king of cutters tooA lot of people on here know much more than I do but I always thought Var was the king of cutters. I’m in a severe deficit, 7 weeks in on Var and its hands down the best cutter I’ve ever used. I’m 176 and started out at 183. I’ve lost 2-3% (est) of BF and I feel like my strength, at the worst, has stayed the same. In fact I believe it has went up a little on most of my compound movements. I’m doing a 18/6 fast, workout is my own 8x8 with an added HIIT element. I’ve also added in a few CrossFit movements like sled pull/pushes. Just my 2 cents on this. Also, I personally didn’t see a appetite increase.
Always depends on dosage. If you're taking 10 mg a day, you're probably not going to have any change in appetite. If you're running 100 mg a day of accurately dosed oxandrolone, you're going to be ravenous.Thanks for your perspective
Im not sure if its increasing my appetite or not. I dont think it is.. but i could see how something with appetite suppressant properties would be great.
Id use oxandrolone on a bulk too!
Does anybody else notice if oxandrolone increases their appetite?
That’s why I bought from another source and tested it.That isn't a standard price.
I only do 10 mg/day during a lean bulk for strength and body composition. When I’m cutting and need a boost I’ve done clen and ECA.do tell?
I’m dosing 20mg twice a day. No change in appetite for me.Always depends on dosage. If you're taking 10 mg a day, you're probably not going to have any change in appetite. If you're running 100 mg a day of accurately dosed oxandrolone, you're going to be ravenous.
Some stuff like tren flattens your appetite as the dose goes up, but most of the DHT compounds will increase appetite at higher dosages.
Mind you, if that's the case, you can always stack it with ECA and nicotine to combat the increase in appetite, but I'm not really a fan of using things like ephedrine because it makes your prostate swell.
I don't remember ever having a change of appetite on Var.I’m dosing 20mg twice a day. No change in appetite for me.
I don't remember ever having a change of appetite on Var.
Var is my favorite. But as everyone on this board probably already knows by now... I'm enjoying the heck out of TD Epiandro lately.This is my first Var run so I have nothing to go by but I almost feel like my appetite has fell off but this is common with me on anabolics.
I'm (almost, obviously. LOL) as big of a fan of Var as you'll find on this board."I just hate seeing people bash oxandrolone. It's literally *the* safest AS there is, and when used correctly (empty stomach) is the most anabolic compound there is. It's the only known androgen that increases the number of androgen receptors in bone and muscle AND promotes the synthesis of new muscle cells. That's why "var gainzz stick" and that's why it's used with such tremendous success in burn victims. It also increases type I collagen synthesis by 100-300% and type 3 collagen synthesis by up to 1100%. There is NO anabolic steroid that even comes close to the power of oxandrolone and NO anabolic steroid with fewer side effects. It's not even liver toxic.
It's not a mass builder because it causes ZERO water retention and causes ZERO intramuscular fat deposition. What it does is increase strength -- massively, and muscle density and hardness -- massively. It increases peak power output, blocks the negative effects of cortisol on muscle, and burns visceral adipose tissue."
This is the post from
this great thread.
Saying var has zero water gain is really bold. If that were true it would mean that it had zero nitrogen retention, which is, let me think, ... one of the most important aspects of all aas. A positive nitrogen balance is what helps you keep the muscle in a cut. Don't want to bash you for saying that but do you really believe an aas could not contribute to water retention?"I just hate seeing people bash oxandrolone. It's literally *the* safest AS there is, and when used correctly (empty stomach) is the most anabolic compound there is. It's the only known androgen that increases the number of androgen receptors in bone and muscle AND promotes the synthesis of new muscle cells. That's why "var gainzz stick" and that's why it's used with such tremendous success in burn victims. It also increases type I collagen synthesis by 100-300% and type 3 collagen synthesis by up to 1100%. There is NO anabolic steroid that even comes close to the power of oxandrolone and NO anabolic steroid with fewer side effects. It's not even liver toxic.
It's not a mass builder because it causes ZERO water retention and causes ZERO intramuscular fat deposition. What it does is increase strength -- massively, and muscle density and hardness -- massively. It increases peak power output, blocks the negative effects of cortisol on muscle, and burns visceral adipose tissue."
This is the post from
this great thread.
Also, off course var is liver toxic. It's just not harsh as other compounds can be."I just hate seeing people bash oxandrolone. It's literally *the* safest AS there is, and when used correctly (empty stomach) is the most anabolic compound there is. It's the only known androgen that increases the number of androgen receptors in bone and muscle AND promotes the synthesis of new muscle cells. That's why "var gainzz stick" and that's why it's used with such tremendous success in burn victims. It also increases type I collagen synthesis by 100-300% and type 3 collagen synthesis by up to 1100%. There is NO anabolic steroid that even comes close to the power of oxandrolone and NO anabolic steroid with fewer side effects. It's not even liver toxic.
It's not a mass builder because it causes ZERO water retention and causes ZERO intramuscular fat deposition. What it does is increase strength -- massively, and muscle density and hardness -- massively. It increases peak power output, blocks the negative effects of cortisol on muscle, and burns visceral adipose tissue."
This is the post from
this great thread.
How are you dosing that? Epiandro is one of the few things I've never tried.Var is my favorite. But as everyone on this board probably already knows by now... I'm enjoying the heck out of TD Epiandro lately.
LOL.
what is it doing for you?Var is my favorite. But as everyone on this board probably already knows by now... I'm enjoying the heck out of TD Epiandro lately.
LOL.
I'm using Apex Alchemy's Stanogen TD Epiandro, which is stronger than oral.How are you dosing that? Epiandro is one of the few things I've never tried.
Immediate strength increase, stamina, energy, drive, focus, libido increase, and I've definitely lost some BF. My muscles are larger and harder.what is it doing for you?
Im interested in the data as wellSaying var has zero water gain is really bold. If that were true it would mean that it had zero nitrogen retention, which is, let me think, ... one of the most important aspects of all aas. A positive nitrogen balance is what helps you keep the muscle in a cut. Don't want to bash you for saying that but do you really believe an aas could not contribute to water retention?
Where did you read that anavar synthesizes type 1 fibers? This, as far as I know, is a myth. Only nandrolones do that. Can you post a link to a study saying anavar does that?
Im interested in the data as wellSaying var has zero water gain is really bold. If that were true it would mean that it had zero nitrogen retention, which is, let me think, ... one of the most important aspects of all aas. A positive nitrogen balance is what helps you keep the muscle in a cut. Don't want to bash you for saying that but do you really believe an aas could not contribute to water retention?
Where did you read that anavar synthesizes type 1 fibers? This, as far as I know, is a myth. Only nandrolones do that. Can you post a link to a study saying anavar does that?
Those weren't his statements, that was a quote from a post (as he noted, and linked at the bottom).Saying var has zero water gain is really bold. If that were true it would mean that it had zero nitrogen retention, which is, let me think, ... one of the most important aspects of all aas. A positive nitrogen balance is what helps you keep the muscle in a cut. Don't want to bash you for saying that but do you really believe an aas could not contribute to water retention?
Where did you read that anavar synthesizes type 1 fibers? This, as far as I know, is a myth. Only nandrolones do that. Can you post a link to a study saying anavar does that?
I know he was quoting but he was quoting in the context of believing what was written. Yes? To lazy to formulate a proper sentece, but you get the gist of it.Those weren't his statements, that was a quote from a post (as he noted, and linked at the bottom).
Like I said in my comment, there is a lot of truth in that thread, and some "not so true" in it.
No.I know he was quoting but he was quoting in the context of believing what was written. Yes? To lazy to formulate a proper sentece, but you get the gist of it.
Only in conjuction with test, hcg or exogenous estradiol though. Since it doesnt aromatize, it cannot be a standalone replacement therapy for hypogonadism.Anavar seems amazing. I've heard and seen some stuff on it being used for HRT at low doses in hypogonadism and to lower SHGB, along with injuries, muscle wastage, burn victims, etc. It has been used long term in children/women with no reported side effect in some studies.
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