Looking for the strongest Stim-Free Pre Workout

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Due to working day shift and going to the gym right after work and not being able to sleep at night I have had to cycle off of my normal pre workouts w/ stimulants/caffeine.

I just finished a container of Conqu3r Stim-Free and I wasn't impressed. I'm a big fan of OL but this product didn't do it for me. I wasn't a fan of the taste and even while stacking with Tr1umph I felt nothing. I'm a long time pwo user so maybe this played a role.

I'm now looking for suggestions from people who currently or have had taken stim-free pwos on what they recommend as a decent replacement to their stimulant counterparts.
 

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not sure what you are hoping to get from a stim free pre?

profile wise, conqu3r is one of the top non stim pre.... so maybe just accept that you wont be getting stimulated from a non stim pre?

some other options: megatron, hemavo2
 
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Pump = PES High Volume

Focus = SNS Caffeine Free Focus XT
 
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I'd vote for pes high volume. I love it and it has a lot of positive reviews on here.
 
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I've been rocking 2 scoops pes HV and 1 scoop Prosupps no3 drive. Stim free mega pumps. Gonna stick with this combo for sometime.... highly recommend.

Grab HV at 20% off from Nutriverse too, check out supp deals section for moar info on our spring sale
 

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Hemavo2 Max is a very very solid formula, hands down one of the top, if not the top non-stim pre-workouts on the market. Extremely complete formula with all the top NO boosting and plasma volumizing ingredients like Hydromax and Nitrates all without the stims. It is currently being revamped for added Hydromax and Nitrates which is just going to be flat out, insane IMO.

High Volume is another extremely solid non-stim as well.

We are currently looking for testers for the new hemavo2 max so go apply! http://anabolicminds.com/forum/company-promotions/279309-hemovo2-max-promo.html
 
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Define strongest non stim - because that will depend on what you are after. Pumps? Hemovo2 Max - the new one - looks pretty solid as well as High Volume.

Stim free Focus XT works well for me pre workout but again that's purely for focus. It's hard to get a "strong" stim free product as, well, the effects are more subtle
 

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Define strongest non stim - because that will depend on what you are after. Pumps? Hemovo2 Max - the new one - looks pretty solid as well as High Volume.

Stim free Focus XT works well for me pre workout but again that's purely for focus. It's hard to get a "strong" stim free product as, well, the effects are more subtle
I got to try Stim Free Focus XT + Hemavo2 Max one day.. seems like it would be killer.
 
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Another vote for High volume, Thunderbolt and haven't tried em yet but solid formulas Usp's MaxReps and iForce Hemavol2 max
 
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Hemovo2 Max..
 

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iForce Hemavo2 Max is solid soon to have a newer version out but def one of the best for pump


+1 for SNS Focus XT really good nootropic blend that cotton candy & rainbow sherbet hemavo2 :)
 
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Depends on what you are looking to get out of the stim free preworkout.

On non stim days, I use Cremax XT which contains TMG, L-Alanyl L-Glutamine, COP, Creatine, Glycerol, Amento, plus electrolytes. Great product for strength and recovery.

I also will throw caffeine free Focus XT in there some times as well. That makes a great stack for me.
 
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The NEWEST and BEST version of Hemavo Max 2 just came out!!!!

There is a logging opportunity for the product that we are currently running!!! Check that out Brah
 
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Usp Labs Max Reps blows high volume out of the water for me and I can't figure out why. Best pumps ever.
 
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new Hemavo2 Max.


1g potassium nitrate
3g Hydromax
full dose amentoflavone
full dose sceletium tortuosm
 

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Plenty of good stim-free options on the market.

The new Hemavo2 MAX is a great option.

Others I regularly use are
Megatron
MaxREPS +NO3
Bodyforge
 
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If all else fails, grab a decent pre that specialises in what you're mainly afrer and then add 1-2 bulk ingredients for that extra kick.

Like High Volume + Noopept XT or something. Dont have to go crazy, just add one thing here or there!
 
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I'd highly recommend iFN Hemavo2. Profile looks to be unmatched in the stim free category.

Others I use and like are
PES High Volume
Controlled Labs White Pipes
Komodo Vaskular
 
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Conqu3r Unleashed stim free.

Focus, endurance, pumps, and an overall good feel.
 
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Hemavo2 with some bulk ALCAR or Focus XT would be my suggestion.
 
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Can you elaborate on "strongest"?

There's been plenty of good suggestions in this thread.

Thanks for all the love with Stim Free Focus XT mentions.

High Volume
Stim Free Focus XT + SNS Cit Mal
Vaskular
Hemavo2 MAX

Just depends on what your definition of strongest is. All deliver good pumps and Stim Free Focus XT is a solid base to use with any of the options in this thread
 
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I just ordered MAN's new Pump Powder and I should have it today. Looking forward to it.

I've used both the OG Hemav02 Max and High Volume, and have nothing but good things to say about both. I'll eventually try the new Hemav02 as well.
 
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Yup. Never tried that high of a dose before. Stuff is awesome
I have been running a high dosage of cirtrulline for a while, 8G of cirtrulline+ 6 grams of cirtrulline malet, to be honest citrulline seems to boost pump, energy and performance...i will not buy a pump formula without it... it all comes down to experimenting and finding out what ingredients your body responds to the most, for example glycerol gives me a nice cosmetic ego pump and thats it! same goes for creatine, i am a non respondent...
 

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I just ordered MAN's new Pump Powder and I should have it today. Looking forward to it.

I've used both the OG Hemav02 Max and High Volume, and have nothing but good things to say about both. I'll eventually try the new Hemav02 as well.
Simple and to the point on pump powder, I liked it was a nice addition to a pre with some pump ingredients; very similar to bsl's Hype however MAN's flavoring tho is top notch and has a better price point on their's.

I added some pump powder into Max OUT & Angel Dust, God of War RED I thought it was a nice addition; Just kind of sad to have seen NooPUMP not sell it had a nice nootropic blend.
 

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Thank you for all of the great responses. I had been considering PES High Volume before I posted this.

By strongest I meant that gives the best pump, endurance feeling. I'm so use to stimulated and enjoy the extra energy that I'm chasing that feeling without the stims. Oxymoronic I'm sure. I don't really want to stack multiple pwo due to cost efficiency over time.

I'm going to go back through the replies and look into each product. I definitely appreciate all of the replies.
 
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High Volume is a king for pumps, if you pick it up I highly recommend the cotton candy
 
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8-12g Cit Mal has my arms about to explode lol
 
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PES High Volume first, then second just a notch below it for me was Hemavo2 older version.
 
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The new Hemavo2 is a definite upgrade from the first version.

Will have to check out USP Max Reps.

Tried a sample of Pump Powder the other day. Got a really nice pump from it and the sour batch flavor was damn good
 
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The new Hemavo2 is a definite upgrade from the first version.

Will have to check out USP Max Reps.

Tried a sample of Pump Powder the other day. Got a really nice pump from it and the sour batch flavor was damn good
Can confirm Pump Powder Sour Batch is awesome. Super happy with it.

Going to try the new Hemav02 ASAP.
 
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welcome to pump city, the new citrulline loaded king is here!
 
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Why?!?! Two scoops of HV or Pp yes, one scoop of mr... MR is better value
 
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I would need an ambulance, here is my veins on citrulline overdose!
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Haven't opened that yet:( tried the watermelon strawberry, it's very nice! Sour but not too sweet, I hate over sweetened flavours, HV paradise cooler is the worst PES flavour so far...
 

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