Looking For Serious Advice On My First PH Cycle

mixedup said:
Usually agree but sasquatch is the BOMB don't know if I recommend for first timer but I put on 12lb first 20 days and I had already been on cycle with other compounds I actually think xcel manifested is one of the best bang for the bucks out the 300mg of furaz 60mg dmz 60mg epi and only 2 pills a day like I said not sure if a beginner would like it bUT ad yard Bros are a little different breed
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How much did you keep tho.
 
awesome, thanks bro. im going for the halo then ill be probably running singularity by nutrathority as a pct its got arimistane 50mg, 5a-hydroxy laxogenin 20mg methyl-daa 35mg bioperine 25mg I believe, ill let you know specifics soon and im going to lock down a good organ support one today you guys are the **** man I appreciate it again!
 
I found one halo sup its Halobolin by mypharma its 60ct at 50mg for $32.49 at nutriverse, that sound like a good one? also HALOCOR by Pharma-TEC 60ct at 25mg on StrongSupps for 29.99 and Island Supps has IronFlex Supplements Halo-X (Halodrol Clone) 60ct at 25mg for $23.99 any ideas?
 
jhobbs83 said:
awesome, thanks bro. im going for the halo then ill be probably running singularity by nutrathority as a pct its got arimistane 50mg, 5a-hydroxy laxogenin 20mg methyl-daa 35mg bioperine 25mg I believe, ill let you know specifics soon and im going to lock down a good organ support one today you guys are the **** man I appreciate it again!
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CEL Cycle Assist best hands down. Great price too. Be sure to preload your cycle support before starting the Halo.
 
jhobbs83 said:
I found one halo sup its Halobolin by mypharma its 60ct at 50mg for $32.49 at nutriverse, that sound like a good one? also HALOCOR by Pharma-TEC 60ct at 25mg on StrongSupps for 29.99 and Island Supps has IronFlex Supplements Halo-X (Halodrol Clone) 60ct at 25mg for $23.99 any ideas?
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Add Halocor to your cart at strongsupps, type in MUSCLE15 into the coupon code, and BAM! 15% off. A 60 count of Halo for under $26.00.
 
hell yea right on! hey im on nutriverse and qwith the code I used im getting halobolin 60ct of 50mg AND CEL Cycle assist 240ct for $62.48 plus shipping of course, does that sound like a good deal? im thinking I should take it!
 
jhobbs83 said:
hell yea right on! hey im on nutriverse and qwith the code I used im getting halobolin 60ct of 50mg AND CEL Cycle assist 240ct for $62.48 plus shipping of course, does that sound like a good deal? im thinking I should take it!
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$60.44 on strongsupps. :147:
 
haha!! I just found that out, your a step ahead bro. right on! BUT im getting double the dose of halo on nutriverse, I would have to get another bottle to have a a 4 week cycle atleast so whats your thoughts
 
Ok here's my thoughts. That Halobolin sounds ok. Only problem is that you're stuck running either 50 or 100, and cannot run at 75 which is typically the sweet spot. Also, the prime Halo cycle is 6 weeks. Meaning you're going to need 2 bottles of virtually any brand. Of course you can buy 1 to start and grab the other in the coming weeks if you need to get the money up. So 2 bottles of Halobolin ends up being an overshoot. LGI Halo-25 for $26. 1 bottle is 20 days at 75, 2 bottles is 40 days. By a Top Dog in the industry. I have never ran Halo, but seems that week 4 is really when it just starts to take off, that's why 6 is the typical duration. So 2 bottles of LGI or even Iron Flex Halo-X would be as good a deal as the Halobolin. 2 bottles of Halobolin is going to leave you with a useless half a bottle and not much flexibility with dosing. Just my opinion brother.
 
Cool thank you man for breaking it down that makes total sense ill have to go a different route then the halobolin, I appreciate it, seems like a good deal but your right about the 50-100 dosing making it difficult! ;)
 
Does anyone have a 15% or better code for nutriverse? I have a 10% one already but it would be awesome to get even more off then I can get another bottle of something, thank you!!
 
jhobbs83 said:
Does anyone have a 15% or better code for nutriverse? I have a 10% one already but it would be awesome to get even more off then I can get another bottle of something, thank you!!
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Just get Hstane :) it's perfect

Hahah or any Hdrol clone that has 25mg caps.
 
If you are going to run HDROL- get two bottles of LGI from Lockout or Nutriverse, or even Orbit. LGI H-Drol is legit as it gets and is CHEAP. On the other hand- you will not gain 20 pounds, more like 10 pounds off H-Drol. If I were you, and it sounds like you have some good lifting behind you- I think you would be okay to run DMZ. You could gain 20 on DMZ, and its not harsh at all. LGI DMZ also. Basically LGI for anything is good to go.
 
Same as the protocols earlier


Hey vets: not to confuse this guy but how come no one says Pmag??? Promagnon.
Their are some good prices on some brand
 
barrymcokiner said:
If you are going to run HDROL- get two bottles of LGI from Lockout or Nutriverse, or even Orbit. LGI H-Drol is legit as it gets and is CHEAP. On the other hand- you will not gain 20 pounds, more like 10 pounds off H-Drol. If I were you, and it sounds like you have some good lifting behind you- I think you would be okay to run DMZ. You could gain 20 on DMZ, and its not harsh at all. LGI DMZ also. Basically LGI for anything is good to go.
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I agree here. Dmz is great. So is Hdrol. All depends on diet mainly.

Order at orbit and get 10% off your order.

LGI is legit. Get hdrol from them. If u leaning towards dmz go for Olympus labs for that. I would get some tr3st to run side by side with whatever you choose to run
 
barrymcokiner said:
If you are going to run HDROL- get two bottles of LGI from Lockout or Nutriverse, or even Orbit. LGI H-Drol is legit as it gets and is CHEAP. On the other hand- you will not gain 20 pounds, more like 10 pounds off H-Drol. If I were you, and it sounds like you have some good lifting behind you- I think you would be okay to run DMZ. You could gain 20 on DMZ, and its not harsh at all. LGI DMZ also. Basically LGI for anything is good to go.
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And I second this guy on. The LGI. Great stuff
 
Halfhuman- When are you getting in LGI Stano? I'm starting a DMZ cycle today and know lethargy is going to kick my ass in 3 weeks. I need two bottles...I noticed you guys are out....
 
We have stano 200 in stock over at strong supplement shop if you need some. Just go to strongsupplementshop.com and type in stano 200 in the search bar and it will come up.
 
Hell yea, damn so many choices lOL and yes I got a pretty good base I think, ive been driving and still driving HARD for the last 5-6 years give or take a week or two here and there off ya know, this last 3 weeks ive been off from being sick like I said but when I get back in its like I hit it relatively hard, get sore as hell from head to toe (I go Monday through Friday each bodypart) and the following week to a week and a half later when the soreness clears up im up about 5lbs and that's just with pre workout and protein... and like I posted on the other thread heres a pic of me currentlyInvalid Link Removed
 
barrymcokiner said:
Halfhuman- When are you getting in LGI Stano? I'm starting a DMZ cycle today and know lethargy is going to kick my ass in 3 weeks. I need two bottles...I noticed you guys are out....
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Not sure. It sells so quick. I will find out.

Dmz at high dose does cause some lethargy. Look into tr3st.
 
Wondering how long you guys think it will take for my shipment from Nutriverse to get here to me in Denver, CO I ordered with priority usps, couldn't afford any better right now. got the Halo-25 from LGI and Cycle Assist from CEL, that's just for now, in two weeks im going to pickup some other things for the cycle like a pct ai/test booster/daa ALSO anybody know the validity of prohormonewerehouse?? they seem to have some decent deals.. thank you guys!
 
jhobbs83 said:
Wondering how long you guys think it will take for my shipment from Nutriverse to get here to me in Denver, CO I ordered with priority usps, couldn't afford any better right now. got the Halo-25 from LGI and Cycle Assist from CEL, that's just for now, in two weeks im going to pickup some other things for the cycle like a pct ai/test booster/daa ALSO anybody know the validity of prohormonewerehouse?? they seem to have some decent deals.. thank you guys!
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Nothing but problems from phw. Will never order from them again
 
Oh damn, I had that feeling that's why I figured id ask you guys. sorry you guys went through that to figure it out! that's horrible. appreciate it!
 
Meh it's always outa stock at this price.
 

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lol that blows man! I noticed even on nutriverse when I was looking things up a lot of PH's were out of stock...and a bunch of other sites as well.. that H-stane is out of stock on nutriverse also.
Dude's I am excited as F**K to start my cycle, I cannot WAIT for my hdrol & cel-cycle assist to get here to start, I went to the gym today after three weeks of missing out thanks to bacterial tonsillitis and 3 days of 104 degree fever, dropping 10lbs and other bad things and I felt like total crap doing my back routine, doing about 1/4 of what I normally do, got fatigued really quick.. that sickness took ALOT out of me so im really excited and hopeful when I start the cycle it gives me more of what I need plus im going to check into a good strong pre workout, that's another question is I heard its not good to do pre workout supps well on a cycle, anybody agree or disagree, as of right now im doing Betancourt Nutrition-Bullnox/androrush, its a pretty awesome pre workout with added test support (fenugreek,stinging nettle root,tribulus,ZMA) good aminos, creatine matrix etc.. its packed full of good ingredients and its the best ive used so far out of a lot of diff ones, but im feeling like I want to stack it with something else or try something else that might give me the extra endurance/stamina/energy I need to push through this next two or three weeks.. any idea's guys?? I greatly appreciate it once again!! hope you all are having a good week.
 
ALSO I Was wondering what anyone thinks about running a test booster/AI/Estrogen Blocker With my cycle, or if that might be a waste or overkill... thank you all!
 
jhobbs83 said:
ALSO I Was wondering what anyone thinks about running a test booster/AI/Estrogen Blocker With my cycle, or if that might be a waste or overkill... thank you all!
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Okay something's people might have left out...

AI is probably over kill on cycle. Definitely save the test booster for the PCT.
I would recommend either stano or dermacrine maybe starting the second week of you feel lethargic during the cycle... Will actually probably increase your gains.

If you feel like you need a AI. I say topical formestane... really good stuff is formabolic by Ironmag or transform by olympus labs. Arimistane works too..

I would say no pro workout during the cycle. Most people get a blood pressure spike when the stuff kicks in... I used just a scoop of C4 which was perfect because it didn't. Have that much stimulants in it to raise my blood pressure.

Definitely look into BPS dermacrine. ****s awesome... I would even take it by itself haha stano works too. CEL stano is best deal i can find
 
Right on bro, I figured the test boost/ai would be too much, and damn I wish I would have ordered some of that dermacrin or the other today lol so without the pre workout taking the cycle will pretty much replace it anyways after a week or two you think? as far as feeling pumped to hit it..?
 
I was taking pre workout during and I felt my blood pressure spike. So i added in the dermacrine and some tyrosine (strictly my preference on the tyrosine.)
and it kicked the **** out the lethargy and allowed me to get angry at the weights stim free. You can add the dermacrine the second or third week brother.

I did a proper cycyle with all the fixings and got huge gains. I am a 195 lb guy at 9% body fat and 6foot1 and I just put up 335 on bench the last week of the cycle.

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I have progress photos throughout and you can definitely see me putting on mass! I am due for another one today actually
 
Hell yea, checking out your log & pics bro, you look jacked. I think im kind of in the same position as you with body comp, just shorter (5'7) I got a feeling im gonna make some huge gains cause without supps I have been able to gain 5lbs in a week 1/2 so with this stuff im hoping it kicks some a** and im going to have to get that dermacrin the way everyone is talking!! I was thinking some daa too
 
My biggest gains were strength and Axial muscle like chest, abs and lats and quads. Like **** I had ACL surgery and i was scared to put over 225 on the bar for squats and now im repping 225 out for 5 sets of 15. But I can feel the lean Beef I put on! great stuff

Dermacrine is ****ing awesome stuff. It has some anti estros built in!
 
im still so skeptical about the topicals but everyones saying it works so its mind blowing man, I could even use that as a pct test boost your saying too or what?? and what were the pct test/ai supps you recommended again??
 
jhobbs83 said:
im still so skeptical about the topicals but everyones saying it works so its mind blowing man, I could even use that as a pct test boost your saying too or what?? and what were the pct test/ai supps you recommended again??
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Perfect PCT IMO
Nolva 20/20/10/10/0/0
Sup3r PCT taper down their protocol
DAA 3 grams a day for four weeks
Formabolic or exemstane last to weeks of nolva and into the PCT

IM using the Dynamic formulas after cycle in my PCT. Because it has a full organ support. But just a little less trib..

I say either dynamic formulas or OL on the PCT. My favorite ones. And LGI DAA
 
what is this nolva you keep mentioning??? and whats IMO mean lol sorry not up to date on some of the shorthand stuff
 
In my opinion. OH man I love topical formestane though. and dermacine. You feel it working like 30 minutes after you rub it on and its super easy to do.

check out my last post on in my thread. That speak for itself with the topicals working
 
Right on, yea im on page 3 or 4 right now of your log reading everything, VERY entertaining and interesting as well as motivating seeing how much you were already catching after two weeks. your nipple fetish thing is cracking me up haha! anyways im going to start my cycle by Monday depending on when my shipment gets here and im hoping to have some sort of topical on hand by then, also I need to get my SERM financial situation is making it hard to be completely ready so im hoping I don't have no serious issues before I get money to order all my things! thanks again bro!!
 
Well I wish you best of luck. Man there is awesome guys on here . They made it a blast to run and log and give me some good laughs,
 
for sure im noticing that from my first day on posting a thread, I went from not having a clue what to get to all the sudden im a few days away from receiving my PH stack. im trippin man but excited as f**k for real, I cannot wait! its been too long since I was at my original size and if all goes well I should get back to that and then some! and I wanted to ask how old are you and what area you live?
 
Good stuff bro, I figured you were pretty young, I got family by dallas/ft worth in grand paraire, some in greenvile, and marshall.. cant wait to go down there and see all of them, I have about 8 - 12 nieces and nephews I never met, and never met some of my cousins down there.. they got a good BodyBuilding/Serious Lifter Following down there??
 
Oh yeah man they do! And yeah I live right in the heart of ft worth. That's really cool brother.
They got some really good powerlifting body builder gym in keller CIty. Got some big boys down there
 
That's awesome bro, always good to have a good community that knows whats up, but then it makes you wanna drive harder to put them all to shame lol but your gonna be a beast man, I mean you already are pretty jacked but if you keep running these cycles and hitting it you got great genetics you could be the next Olympia!
 
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