Looking for a Good Intra EAA/BCAA Supplement Please.

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Looking for a Good Intra EAA/BCAA Supplement Please.

Can you guys please recommend me a few Current amino acid supplements that I could take Pre workout and during a workout?
I’m not sure about what the hot ticket is now days on that one.
It’s been a while since I’ve bought Any aminos.
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PES Amino IV
Xtend Perfect 10
Nutrex EAA+ Hydration
Prosupps HydroBCAA
MAN Iso-EAA
Rule 1 Essential Amino 9
MuscleSport Amino Revolution
Dymatize All 9 Amino
GAT Flex EAA's
 

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PES Amino IV
Xtend Perfect 10
Nutrex EAA+ Hydration
Prosupps HydroBCAA
MAN Iso-EAA
Rule 1 Essential Amino 9
MuscleSport Amino Revolution
Dymatize All 9 Amino
GAT Flex EAA's
Thank you sir.
 
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PES Amino IV
Xtend Perfect 10
Nutrex EAA+ Hydration
Prosupps HydroBCAA
MAN Iso-EAA
Rule 1 Essential Amino 9
MuscleSport Amino Revolution
Dymatize All 9 Amino
GAT Flex EAA's
Great list here. I'm always a fan of PES but any of these you can't go wrong with...
 
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You could give Hi Tech Off The Chain a look. It's a BCAA/EAA supplement with all micronized aminos for better absorption. It also has some caffeine in it to give you a boost during your workout.

INGREDIENTS / LABEL
Serving Size: 1 Scoop (10g)
Servings Per Container: 30

Amino Blend 5g
Ajinomoto L-Glutamine, Micronized L-Leucine, Micronized L-Isolecine, Micronized L-Valine, Micronized L-Taurine, Micronized L-Cittrulline, L-Tyrosine, Micronized L-Arginine, Micronized L-Histidine, Micronized L-Lysine, Micronized L-Phenylalanine, Micronized L-Theronine, Micronized L-Methionine.

Energy Blend 160mg
Caffeine Anhydrous, Green Tea Extract (Camellia sinensis)(leaf), llex Guayusa Extract (Seed)
NutraBio Alpha EAA is another great choice. It has some cognitive enhancers to help give you a mental edge during your workout. It has a Nootropic blend in it that has stuff like Alpha-GPC, Ashwagandha and some other pretty cool ingredients, but doesn't include any caffeine or stimulants.

NUTRABIO ALPHA EAA SUPPLEMENT FACTS
Serving Size: 1 Scoop (14.88g)

Servings Per Container: 30

Calories 5g

Total Carbohydrate 1g

Build: Full Spectrum EAA-BCAA Matrix (8.2g)

BCAAs (2:1:1 Ratio) (Fermented) (6g)

L-Leucine (HPLC) 3g

L-Isoleucine (HPLC) 1.5g

L-Valine (HPLC) 1.5g

L-Lysine HCI (HPLC) 850mg

LThreonine (HPLC) 850mg

DL-Phenylalanine (HPLC) 300mg

L-Histidine HCI (HPLC) 100mg

L-Tryptophan (HPLC) 75mg

DL-Methionine (HPLC) 25mg

Hydrate: Electrolyte Hydration Matrix (1.7g)

Taurine (HPLC) 1200mg

CocoPure (Coconut Water Powder) 500mg

Focus: Nootropic Adaptogen Matrix (1.4g)

Alpha GPC Powder (Yielding 300mg L-Alpha Glycerolphosphorylcholine 600mg

300mg Calcium Phosphate) (HPLC)

VitaCholine (HPLC) (choline bitartrate) 500mg

KSM-66 Ashwagandha (root extract) (withania comnifera) 300mg

(min 2.5% total withanolides)

Huperzine A (from 5mg huperzia serrata leaf standardized extract) 50mg

Absorption Enhancer

AstraGin (Astragalus membranaceous(root) Panax Notoginseng (root) 50mg

*Percent Daily Value (DV) are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.

*Daily Value (DV) Not Established
 

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For during workout support I like Morphogen Synthegen and Nutrabio Intrablast. Large doses per serving and when priced out per EAA content they seem to hold their own versus straight EAA products plus they have some extras that may be helpful.

For pre I also love SNS Energized Aminos. If you need a stimulant boost + some EAA in a great flavor it is hard to beat. You can get 30 servings for less than $20 on DPS often. I pair it with stimulant free performance/pump based pres often.
 
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For during workout support I like Morphogen Synthegen and Nutrabio Intrablast. Large doses per serving and when priced out per EAA content they seem to hold their own versus straight EAA products plus they have some extras that may be helpful.
These are top 2 IMO.
 
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InnovaPharm Recover EAA is another great choice
 
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Gatorade powder.
Gatorade Powder + EAA is a great intra combo, as long as you can digest dextrose well. Some can’t, and end up spending more on designer carbs.

I do think I like Karbolyn and HBCD slightly better, but not enough to justify the cost. Nice treat I guess, but I’m like you and Gatorade powder works fine.
 
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Gatorade powder.
Gatorade is just a bunch of high fructose corn syrup and dyes. There are much better carb powders out there, like Cytomax by CytoSport. It has a blend of quick and slow digesting carbs, along with Alpha-L-Polylactate which has been shown to aid recovery and increase endurance.


INGREDIENTS
Cool Citrus

Serving Size25g (1scoop)
Servings Per ContainerApprox 81
Amount Per Serving % DV*
Calories 90
Calories From Fat 0
Total Fat 0g 0%
Saturated Fat 0g 0%
Trans Fat 0g
Cholesterol 0mg 0%
Total Carbohydrate 22g 7%
Sugars 12g
Protein <1g
Vitamin C (As Ascorbic Acid) 60mg 100%
Calcium (As Dicalcium Phosphate, Calcium Succinate) 6mg 1%
Magnesium (As Magnesium Oxide, Magnesium Succinate) 14mg 4%
Chromium (As Chromium Nicotinate) 50mcg 40%
Sodium (As Sodium Citrate) 120mg 5%
Potassium (As Potassium Citrate, Monopotassium Phosphate, Potassium Succinate) 60mg 2%
Advanced Carbohydrate System
(Maltodextrin, Crystalline Fructose, Dextrose, Alpha-L-Polylactate) 22g **
Amino Acid Peptide Blend
(PepForm™ Leucine Enriched Whey Peptides (Milk), L-Glutamine, L-Alanine) 250mg **
* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet
Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs
** Percent Daily Values not established
Ingredients
Advanced Carbohydrate System (Maltodextrin, Crystalline Fructose, Dextrose, Alpha-L-Polylactate), Citric Acid, Natural Flavors, Malic Acid, Xanthan Gum, Turmeric Powder (Added For Color), Stevia Extract, Soy Lecithin.
I used to use Cytomax all the time when I was bulking as my carb of choice during my workouts and it gave me so much extra energy. Throw in some BCAA powder and you've got yourself an awesome intra workout drink.
 
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Gatorade is just a bunch of high fructose corn syrup and dyes. There are much better carb powders out there, like Cytomax by CytoSport. It has a blend of quick and slow digesting carbs, along with Alpha-L-Polylactate which has been shown to aid recovery and increase endurance.




I used to use Cytomax all the time when I was bulking as my carb of choice during my workouts and it gave me so much extra energy. Throw in some BCAA powder and you've got yourself an awesome intra workout drink.
FYI the powder is (IIRC) sugar + dextrose, which IMO is fine in the peri workout window.
 
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FYI the powder is (IIRC) sugar + dextrose, which IMO is fine in the peri workout window.
I guess the power doesn't have the HFCS, only the premade drinks do.

Gatorade Powdered Drink Mix - LEMON-LIME 50.9 Oz
'SUGAR, DEXTROSE, CITRIC ACID, NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR, SALT, SODIUM CITRATE, MONOPOTASSIUM PHOSPHATE, CALCIUM SILICATE, MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, YELLOW 5.
Still Cytomax doesn't have dyes or plain old sugar. It has "Maltodextrin, Crystalline Fructose, Dextrose, Alpha-L-Polylactate" Malto is a slower acting carb, so you're replenishing your carb load, crystalline fructose and dextrose which are fast acting carbs. Dextrose is the same thing as glucose, so your body doesn't have to convert it in the liver from cane sugar to glucose, which is ideally what you want.

But, it would work in a pinch if that's all you could get your hands on I guess.
 
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Then, if you want to get super technical with your carbs, there's waxy maize starch (mostly junk), and a ton of other *saccharides, polysaccharides, and on and on and on.

There's two other carb products I really liked using too. NutraBio makes a product called Super Carb that contains Branched Cyclic Dextrin, which you can read all about on their website, here:


And AllMax makes a product called CARBION+ that contains a blend of different advanced carbs.



Then, if you really want to get crazy, there's Vitargo which is probably one of the most advanced carbs out there. It's really for people who work out twice a day. It's been so long since I've researched it, I forgot most of what they claim it can do. But, they explain everything on their website:


Here's some good articles on carb supplements that are worth a read.


 
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I guess the power doesn't have the HFCS, only the premade drinks do.



Still Cytomax doesn't have dyes or plain old sugar. It has "Maltodextrin, Crystalline Fructose, Dextrose, Alpha-L-Polylactate" Malto is a slower acting carb, so you're replenishing your carb load, crystalline fructose and dextrose which are fast acting carbs. Dextrose is the same thing as glucose, so your body doesn't have to convert it in the liver from cane sugar to glucose, which is ideally what you want.

But, it would work in a pinch if that's all you could get your hands on I guess.
Yeah, and the powder is certainly more economical. While I’m not well-versed on the potential negatives of dyes, I do wish the industry would just ditch them all together. The general population likes to see the different colors I guess.

I’d take Hexagen from Morphogen over Cytomax from a carbs perspective anyway if money isn’t a concern.
 
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My 3 favorites ..

Nutrex EAA+ Hydration
SNS Energized Aminos
Nutraio EAA complex or INtraBlast
 
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Yeah, and the powder is certainly more economical. While I’m not well-versed on the potential negatives of dyes, I do wish the industry would just ditch them all together. The general population likes to see the different colors I guess.

I’d take Hexagen from Morphogen over Cytomax from a carbs perspective anyway if money isn’t a concern.
Some people claim dyes can cause hyperactivity in children, but I don't know if there's any science on that. But, it's just something I'd prefer to avoid if at all possible. Cytomax uses Tumeric as a food coloring agent. But yeah, people want their drinks to be blue, green, and red because it apparently matches the flavor in your brain with what you're drinking. That's why Crystal Pepsi was a failure. It tasted like a cola, but was clear, so people's brain's couldn't handle that advanced information so they thought it tasted weird.

I looked up Hexagen, and it's really a whole different beast than something like Cytomax. It contains creatine, Glycerol (which just gives you a temporary pump), and also that Cluster Dextrin that a couple of those above I mentioned have. Unfortunately, they include D-Ribose as a carb source, and D-Ribose has been known for a long time to be a total bust for what the claims they make for it are.

Here's what Will Brink has to say about it:



Source: Will Brink's Bodybuilding Revealed eBook (no copyright date given)


Effects of oral D-ribose supplementation on anaerobic capacity and selected metabolic markers in healthy males

Conclusion

No significant interactions were observed in peak power, average power, torque, fatigue index, lactate, ammonia, glucose, or uric acid. Results indicate that oral ribose supplementation (10 g/d for 5 d) does not affect anaerobic exercise capacity or metabolic markers in trained subjects as evaluated in this study.
 
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Hmm... all my posts got mass downvoted. I guess somebody disagrees with me... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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Hmm... all my posts got mass downvoted. I guess somebody disagrees with me... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Because OP didn't ask for lectures on Carbohydrates and every time you post I feel like I've been transported back to BB.com in the 90s.

Fear mongering dyes, talking negatively about products you don't use but not even knowing what is in them, posting research from supplement companies when it is a product you like but talking negatively about that in other threads, etc.

I'll probably just put you on ignore because most of your posts just don't seem beneficial to me.
 
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Because OP didn't ask for lectures on Carbohydrates and every time you post I feel like I've been transported back to BB.com in the 90s.

Fear mongering dyes, talking negatively about products you don't use but not even knowing what is in them, posting research from supplement companies when it is a product you like but talking negatively about that in other threads, etc.

I'll probably just put you on ignore because most of your posts just don't seem beneficial to me.
Bro, we're just having a friendly conversation/debate. I'm not trying to talk down to anyone, I'm not insulting anyone, or trying to tell people they're wrong or stupid for thinking something. We all have our opinions and we're just here to learn. The OP of the thread liked all my posts, so obviously he didn't think they were worthless.

As far as fearmongering, that wasn't my intention, and like I said, there's probably no science behind it, but it's just my personal opinion. You're more than welcome to put me on ignore if you don't like to read a discussion.

As I've mentioned in my other threads, I'm a skeptic. IMO, you want someone around to challenge your opinions and POV, otherwise you just get stuck in a bubble or echo chamber of your own thoughts.

I'm not trying to say one is better than the other or sh!t talk :) [...] I'm trying to look at it from a purely scientific perspective. I follow the skeptical ideology of Carl Sagan and his book The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark. For a quick overview, here is his Baloney Detection Kit. I'm also a big fan of Quackwatch (although I think the author got too old and is no longer updating the site) as well as the book Muscles, Speed, and Lies: What the Sport Supplement Industry Does Not Want Athletes or Consumers to Know. It's my personal opinion that probably 98% of all supplements are bullsh!t, and the 2% that work are simply under looked because people are looking for the next best thing..
However, if you want to put me on ignore, I'm sorry you feel that way, but that is, of course, your right to do so.
 
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Synthegen looks very good. I am also interested in others lists. Many products are just BCAA sprinkled with EAA.

On the note of Gatorade powder, I hate the stuff. I use Super Carb intra with my EAA. I have tried Gatorade, but I get a huge, quick rush of energy and then crash. It happens with every sip, but if your body reacts well to it, go with it. It is cheaper.
 
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I use micellar casein 20 grams first thing in the morning with hydro salmon to not have to sip on eaa.
 
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Gatorade is just a bunch of high fructose corn syrup and dyes. There are much better carb powders out there, like Cytomax by CytoSport. It has a blend of quick and slow digesting carbs, along with Alpha-L-Polylactate which has been shown to aid recovery and increase endurance.




I used to use Cytomax all the time when I was bulking as my carb of choice during my workouts and it gave me so much extra energy. Throw in some BCAA powder and you've got yourself an awesome intra workout drink.
It’s a blend how do we find Alpha-L-Polylactate as a stand alone ingredient? We can’t . I can’t at least. I like karbolyn around the workout with pqq and creatine, ketoba and l Babia because I have seen studies on it as a stand alone ingredient but I can’t find that with Alpha-L-Polylactate.
 
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It’s a blend how do we find Alpha-L-Polylactate as a stand alone ingredient? We can’t . I can’t at least. I like karbolyn around the workout with pqq and creatine, ketoba and l Babia because I have seen studies on it as a stand alone ingredient but I can’t find that with Alpha-L-Polylactate.
Cytosport doesn't sell it as a stand alone supplement, unfortunately. They own the patent on it, so they're the only ones that have the rights to it. But they only sell it in their Cytomax formula.
 

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IMO nutrabio alpha EAA or Intrablast are both superb formulas. You definitely are getting what they say on the label and good flavor options.

Innovapharma EAA product is also very good as it gives quality doses of the EAAs. Unfortunately doesn’t have extra hydration goodies in it but from an amino acid standpoint is one of the very best

Stay away from anything that fails to breakdown the EAA doses on the label. So many products are just BCAA and some lysine with micro doses of the other EAAs at double the cost of a normal BCAA product
 
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Stay away from anything that fails to breakdown the EAA doses on the label. So many products are just BCAA and some lysine with micro doses of the other EAAs at double the cost of a normal BCAA product
That's a good point. I've seen a lot of products sold as "amino acid formulas" and they list all the amino acids on the label, but when you look at the ingredients it's just whey protein concentrate and they're just listing all the aminos in whey and trying to claim like it's individual aminos. You want the ISOLATED amino acids if you're wanting to take an EAA/BCAA supplement.
 

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Holy sh*t you guys are awesome!!

The answers are overwhelming and I will narrow down my choices and come up with 1-2 contenders.
Thank you all for your knowledge!

I have a few selected already 😃
 

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Looking for a Good Intra EAA/BCAA Supplement Please.

Can you guys please recommend me a few Current amino acid supplements that I could take Pre workout and during a workout?
I’m not sure about what the hot ticket is now days on that one.
It’s been a while since I’ve bought Any aminos.
-Thank You
If you look at the studies (provided below) you'll see that the ratios of EAAs that activate MPS the most is as follows:

Leucine 3,500mg
Phenylalanine 1,400mg
Lysine 1,200mg
Valine 1,000mg
Threonine 1,000mg
Isoleucine 800mg
Histidine 800mg
Methionine 300mg

Tryptophan 50mg

With that being said, the only intra/EAA supplement that has these ratios or close to them is Chemix EAA with Alpha Lion Gain-O-Rade coming in a close second (but you need to double the recommended serving size). I actually buy each amino on its own and weigh out the dosage to make my own intra with the precise dosages above. I mix in 25 grams of HBCD and sip throughout my workout and then again post-workout. Been doing this for years and I never drink protein shakes. The last time I had a protein shake was maybe around 2016 lol. I do eat plenty of protein-rich foods throughout the day though.

Studies:
(Tipton)
(Børsheim et al, 2002)
(Pasiakos et, al, 2011)
(Kerksick et al, 2008 & Pasiakos et al, 2011)
 
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Studies:
(Tipton)
(Børsheim et al, 2002)
(Pasiakos et, al, 2011)
(Kerksick et al, 2008 & Pasiakos et al, 2011)
I don't suppose you have the full names of the studies, or the PMID/DOI #s or just URLs? Not calling you out, but I'd actually like to take a look at them.
 

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I don't suppose you have the full names of the studies, or the PMID/DOI #s or just URLs? Not calling you out, but I'd actually like to take a look at them.
I read them many years ago so just google:
(Tipton)
(Børsheim et al, 2002)
(Pasiakos et, al, 2011)
(Kerksick et al, 2008 & Pasiakos et al, 2011) and they will come up.
 
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Stim option: SNS Energized Aminos

Stim Free: Mutant GEAAR, stay away from tigers blood flavor.

Keep in mind that the ratio companies use also has to do with the difficulty in flavoring some of the lesser aminos like methionine. Also, I think the ratio is less important when NOT in a vacuum of amino consumption. If you are eating 200+ grams of protein a day low histidine is not the end of the world.
 
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Hmm... all my posts got mass downvoted. I guess somebody disagrees with me... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
bud, you need to discontinue the use of affiliate links - these are against the rules and are usually considered a form of spam on the forum. It's against the forum rules and is also disrespectful to the companies who invest in sponsoring this forum/community.
 

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Lol
Poor Starscream66 .
You are helpful dude .... just a little eager.
I think you guys are ALL super cool and helpful 🙂👍🏻
 

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I’m still searching for an amino intra.

Maybe purchase this weekend.

*** also wanting to find A nice new cycle support since AI sports discontinued their 2.0 WTF
 
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I’m still searching for an amino intra.

Maybe purchase this weekend.

*** also wanting to find A nice new cycle support since AI sports discontinued their 2.0 WTF
Competitive Edge Labs has some pretty popular cycle support products
 
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Cytosport doesn't sell it as a stand alone supplement, unfortunately. They own the patent on it, so they're the only ones that have the rights to it. But they only sell it in their Cytomax formula.
Which is why when I emailed them to see how that ingredient compares to a placebo and they don’t have any studies on it as a single ingredient :(
 
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That's a good point. I've seen a lot of products sold as "amino acid formulas" and they list all the amino acids on the label, but when you look at the ingredients it's just whey protein concentrate and they're just listing all the aminos in whey and trying to claim like it's individual aminos. You want the ISOLATED amino acids if you're wanting to take an EAA/BCAA supplement.
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go with peptides over ffeaa.
 

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My favourite intra workout is evogen nutrition cell kem it's the only intra workout I could feel working giving me some extra fullness and good pumps
 

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