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Log: Having fun with Havoc (1st cycle)!

TonyGT said:
That's awesome that you still put on weight while being sick haha
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Yeah :D

Day 26

Weight: 170.0lbs!

Dosage: 50mg Havoc


Workout:

Chest, delts and triceps. I was so weak that I won't even write numbers here.

I decided to modify my routine a little. New routine starts when I have my Ballista here.

Tuesday:
- Speed chins
- Deadlift, heavy
- Front squat, light
- Calves
- Abs

Wednesday:
- Standing side laterals
- Facepull
- Standing military press Wendler's
- Standing DB press
- Seated side laterals
- Something for triceps

Friday:
- Chin-ups Wendler's + long sets
- Lat pulldown
- BB shrugs
- BB curl
- Something for forearms and biceps

Saturday:
- Front squat Wendler's
- DB lunges
- Leg curls
- Calves
- Abs

Sunday:
- Standing side laterals
- Facepull
- Bench press with Ballista, heavy (DB flat bench until I receive my ballista)
- DB flat bench (DB incline bench until I receive my ballista)
- DB tricep extension + something else for triceps
 
How you feeling on 50mg Havoc?
Noticed any sides to speak of? :)
 
ConcreteConny said:
How you feeling on 50mg Havoc?
Noticed any sides to speak of? :)
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Curious also on how you feel on 50mg Havoc. Cause when I run it I'll be running my last 2 weeks of Havoc at 50mg.
 
ConcreteConny said:
How you feeling on 50mg Havoc?
Noticed any sides to speak of? :)
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Nothing new. Yesterday I took 1 dose straight before bed and that wasn't a good idea. I was sweating a lot and couldn't sleep. If I didn't drink so much last night, I would've been seriously dehydrated when I woke up :)


Today is day 27. Weight and dosage are same than yesterday.

I got my bodyfat checked. It was 9.9%. My lean body mass increased 14lbs and fat mass decreased 2lbs in 15 months. I'm quite happy with that :)
 
Day 28

Weight: 168.4lbs

Dosage: 50mg Havot

I hit the gym today.

Standiling military press: 7x130lbs (personal best)

Deadlift:
3 sets of 2 @ 330lbs
1x375lbs
1x420lbs

I was so tired but managed to do few PR's. I think training 5 times a week might be a little too much for me now when I'm back to work. I tweaked my new routine a little, will start it next week:

1. speed chins
deadlift, heavy
front squat, light
calves
core

2. standing side laterals
facepull
standing military press
standing DB press
seated side laterals
(+ something for triceps)

3. Weighted chins
front squat
walking lunges
leg curls
barbell curls
calves
core

4. standing side laterals
facepull
bench press with Ballista
DB flat bench
DB tricep extension
(+ something else for triceps)

Been reading about Westside for Skinny Bastards and Growth Stimulus Training but I'll continue with this at least for now.

Gotta go to work, I'm in hurry :D
 
Day 29

Weight: 168.4lbs

Dosage: 50mg

Awful day. I woke up with sore throat and aching shoulder. My right rotator cuff took too much hit yesterday. I think heavy military presses, heavy deadlifts and physical work was just too much. Last summer I had to reduce my training so that I trained shoulders/chest just once a week, hopefully it won't go to that point again.

Another bad thing.. My body temp is up again. If it isn't better tomorrow, I'll call it quits and start PCT. I've already gained good amount of mass and strength and leaned out a bit (veins have started popping out more and more lately) so it wouldn't be that bad to stop this cycle two weeks earlier but hopefully I won't have to do that. It's just not worth it being on when I can't even hit the weights with normal intensity.Invalid Link Removed
 
I officially call it quits now and start the PCT (20mg Nolva, 4 caps of Anabeta and 6 caps of Pure Test - I'll throw in Lean Xtreme at second week of PCT and Formadrol Extreme a week later.

Things are heading to the wrong direction. My shoulder is fugged up and completely useless right now. Hopefully I can at least do my job next week. On top of that my body temp is still high and I threw up my breakfast 20 minutes ago.. This is not how I wanted to finish the cycle and start the PCT.

On the bright side, I don't feel shut down at all. If I'll get better soon, hopefully I'll be able to keep some of these gains.. But right now it is more important to recover from this shoulder injury and be able to hit the gym again as soon as possible.

I still gained good amount of
mass during this 4 week cycle and learnt many things.. Most important thing is that next time when I run a cycle, whatever I decide to run, I'll stack it with Stano. I felt like I was just dragging my ass last two weeks, so lethargic I was.

About my next cycle.. I don't know what it will be. Maybe either H-Drol or Mechabol stacked with Stano. Maybe something totally different.. Sus250 with SD kickstart or SD stacked with Stano? I don't know yet but I will probably start my next cycle on August or September.

I want to apologize all of you who were following. Your support was great. I didn't want to cut this cycle short but I want to play it wise. I don't see the point about being on when I can't train my upper body due to shoulder pain and not even do front squats because I got sick second time in less than two weeks.

I'll post those after pics and final review as soon as I'm back on track again :)
 
Damn dude, you could catch a break! Good luck with PCT. I'll be running a similar cycle pretty soon!
 
Thanks brosephs.

I'm gonna see a doctor yesterday. I think I may have some bacterial infection.. Hopefully antibiotics will help. Right now I have hard times even trying to eat.. I hate that this happened to me at this critical point of the cycle but there is nothing I can do about it. Gotta just hit it even harder when I'm back at the gym.
 
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My pecs aren't that unsymmetric in reality :D Shirtless pic was taken yesterday and another one was taken on the last week of the cycle.

I met my doctor today. He prescribed me 3 different medicines and said that I shouldn't hit the gym in a week. But that's life, gotta stay positive. Damn it will be awesome to hit the iron again, I feel like I had ADHD right now :D

Appetite is still non-existent and Nolva makes my joints feel bad. Libido is good and my little twins hang low already so that's good I think :)
 
Congratulations crazy finn, sounds like your cycle was a success.

Now that you can't hit the gym for a while, you should just relax. Eat a lot karjalanpiirakka, drink a lot of Karhu and watch Salatut Elämät everyday to maintain your gains.
 
I'd do that if I still had my appetite :D Hopefully Salkkarit alone helps me maintain a pound or two..
 
Well at least Isabella and Cindy help keeping your libido up ;)
 
It's week 2 of PCT.


I finally got back to the gym. Pulled 440lbs :)

Shoulder is still a mess, training upper body is difficult.

Libido and everything is good.
 
It's week 3 of PCT.

Libido is off the charts and appetite is down.

I've not been able to train upper body until today so I've obviously lost some size. My shoulder still hurts but I decided to bench anyway :D Did few sets of close grip bench, heaviest was 3x220lbs. I tried 245lbs but didn't get it to full extension :( Afterwards I did few paused singles of wide grip bench with 200lbs. Strength is still good.
 
g0hardorgohom said:
It's week 3 of PCT.

Libido is off the charts and appetite is down.

I've not been able to train upper body until today so I've obviously lost some size. My shoulder still hurts but I decided to bench anyway :D Did few sets of close grip bench, heaviest was 3x220lbs. I tried 245lbs but didn't get it to full extension :( Afterwards I did few paused singles of wide grip bench with 200lbs. Strength is still good.
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Glad to hear pct is going well! You doing anything about the shoulder? Ice or anything?
 
Looks like pct is going well! I can wait to start Havoc, just started pre loading cycle assist today !
 
Yeah, ice and rotator cuff exercises.

Weird thing is that today, after going relatively heavy on bench, my shoulder feels better than it has felt in last few weeks!

I'm missing that hardness and muscle fullness I got from Havoc.. But I'm still in much better shape than I was last summer so it's good time to start party season in two weeks! :D
 
Happy to hear your PCT is going well bruther.
You stopped updating on the other forum? :( (Activity is scarce there but people do still read dem logs ;))
 
Yeah, my browser doesn't work there anymore and I'm too lazy to update it :D I'll write some kind of summary to that forum too..

Muscles are feeling much fuller now when I'm back to the gym (I did heavy deads and high rep chins yesterday).. I decided to cut down fats and carbs slightly because I'm getting fatter.. Anabeta helps with the lack of appetite :)

I decided to not run Formadrol because I think the combination of it and Nolva could be too much for my joints.. And I'm not having any estrogen related issues.

Libido is still high. Much higher than normally. I think Nolva + Pure Test treats me pretty well :)

Btw 2 bottles of Pro-Stano arrived here on Monday! Maybe I'll stack it with something nice next autumn ;)
 
g0hardorgohom said:
Yeah, my browser doesn't work there anymore and I'm too lazy to update it :D I'll write some kind of summary to that forum too..

Muscles are feeling much fuller now when I'm back to the gym (I did heavy deads and high rep chins yesterday).. I decided to cut down fats and carbs slightly because I'm getting fatter.. Anabeta helps with the lack of appetite :)

I decided to not run Formadrol because I think the combination of it and Nolva could be too much for my joints.. And I'm not having any estrogen related issues.

Libido is still high. Much higher than normally. I think Nolva + Pure Test treats me pretty well :)

Btw 2 bottles of Pro-Stano arrived here on Monday! Maybe I'll stack it with something nice next autumn ;)
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I hear ya.
I'll have to stock up on some Stano too!!
I was thinking D-Zine/M-LMG/Stano for a winter bulk :head:
 
Sounds like you're gonna step up to harsher stacks :) Few months feels so long right now..
 
g0hardorgohom said:
Sounds like you're gonna step up to harsher stacks :) Few months feels so long right now..
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Indeed it does, can't wait to get back on :D

Well, it's not that harsh. 1 methyl + 2 non methyls.. ;)
But I've done my fair share of cycles...

MMv2/M1-D
1AD/4AD
H-Drol/Fura
X-Tren/Havoc
Phera/Stano (Best cycle so far)
EQ/Epi

Although I was contemplating doing Superdrol/Stano... But who knows - got plenty of time to figure it out :D
Just read another dude who did Epi/M-LMG. Sounds like a good stack that one too..

So what have you got up your sleeve for the winter? :D
 
ConcreteConny said:
Indeed it does, can't wait to get back on :D

Well, it's not that harsh. 1 methyl + 2 non methyls.. ;)
But I've done my fair share of cycles...

MMv2/M1-D
1AD/4AD
H-Drol/Fura
X-Tren/Havoc
Phera/Stano (Best cycle so far)
EQ/Epi

Although I was contemplating doing Superdrol/Stano... But who knows - got plenty of time to figure it out :D
Just read another dude who did Epi/M-LMG. Sounds like a good stack that one too..

So what have you got up your sleeve for the winter? :D
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I don't know yet.. I sold most stuff from my stash (I thought I wouldn't waste my time by running stuff like Cynostane, Delta-2 and D-Plex as they haven't got very good reviews).

Right now I have some Stano, SD, Alpha One and dienedione in my closet. If I should decide from those I'd probably do SD @ 10mg stacked with Stano but I'll probably buy something milder because I want do this smart way and progressively move towards stronger compounds and stacks (just like you've done).. Maybe H-Drol, P-Mag or Mechabol stacked with Stano or even injectable test (Sustanon 250) if I still have my source when it's time to jump on again.. Stacking those with non-methyls like Furuza or Bold sounds good too :D There is so many options.. I probably won't know my next cycle until I'm on :D

If I follow time off = time on + pct -rule, I could start at the end of July. But if everything goes like I planned, I'll go to school next August so it will be stressful time with finding new apartment and stuff like that.. So it's possible that I won't run anything until September or October.
 
You have Alpha One? Lucky *****! Injectable test is the balls, test propionate stacked with tren and you got yourself a killer cycle. If you're not a ***** injectables are always better. I'm terrified of needles so I couldn't probably stick one in my ass but if you can I say go for it, much much better than orals.
 
I'm not afraid about pinning.. But my source has just Sust, Deca, Dbol, Nolva and illegal fat burners. No HCG (and I would like to take it if I run long cycles), no AI's (OTC's would suffice though), no prolactin antagonists (of course there is stuff like P5P and Mucuna), no Clomid.. At least he didn't have them at the moment when we talked last time. Haven't seen him lately though..

He has HGH though :D Expensive like hell..
 
g0hardorgohom said:
I'm not afraid about pinning.. But my source has just Sust, Deca, Dbol, Nolva and illegal fat burners. No HCG (and I would like to take it if I run long cycles), no AI's (OTC's would suffice though), no prolactin antagonists (of course there is stuff like P5P and Mucuna), no Clomid.. At least he didn't have them at the moment when we talked last time. Haven't seen him lately though..

He has HGH though :D Expensive like hell..
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Meh, you can go without HCG if you do an 8+2 week cycle and start PCT with a bang: 100mg Clomid 20mg Nolva. That should kickstart your HPTA ;) They didn't know what HCG was back in the day either :D

But I hear you - I'd play it safe too :)

Come over to the darkside - We have cookies ;)
 
ConcreteConny said:
Meh, you can go without HCG if you do an 8+2 week cycle and start PCT with a bang: 100mg Clomid 20mg Nolva. That should kickstart your HPTA ;) They didn't know what HCG was back in the day either :D

But I hear you - I'd play it safe too :)

Come over to the darkside - We have cookies ;)
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Hell yeah.
 
ConcreteConny said:
Meh, you can go without HCG if you do an 8+2 week cycle and start PCT with a bang: 100mg Clomid 20mg Nolva. That should kickstart your HPTA ;) They didn't know what HCG was back in the day either :D

But I hear you - I'd play it safe too :)

Come over to the darkside - We have cookies ;)
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Yeah, running injectables without HCG wouldn't be an issue with fast acting stuff like Test P or NPP but 2/3 of Sust is testosterone isocaproate and testosterone decanoate.. Both of them are long esters so 8 week cycle would be a waste even if I frontloaded 1g of it for the first week.. And same goes for Deca. But I know that I could run even 12 week cycle without HCG - especially if I sheered away from 19-nor steroids.. But we'll see what I decide to do :)
 
g0hardorgohom said:
Yeah, running injectables without HCG wouldn't be an issue with fast acting stuff like Test P or NPP but 2/3 of Sust is testosterone isocaproate and testosterone decanoate.. Both of them are long esters so 8 week cycle would be a waste even if I frontloaded 1g of it for the first week.. And same goes for Deca. But I know that I could run even 12 week cycle without HCG - especially if I sheered away from 19-nor steroids.. But we'll see what I decide to do :)
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Technically an 8 week cycle with long esters would equal a 10week cycle ;) But let's not get into formalities here :D
 
ConcreteConny said:
Indeed it does, can't wait to get back on :D

Well, it's not that harsh. 1 methyl + 2 non methyls.. ;)
But I've done my fair share of cycles...

MMv2/M1-D
1AD/4AD
H-Drol/Fura
X-Tren/Havoc
Phera/Stano (Best cycle so far)
EQ/Epi

Although I was contemplating doing Superdrol/Stano... But who knows - got plenty of time to figure it out :D
Just read another dude who did Epi/M-LMG. Sounds like a good stack that one too..

So what have you got up your sleeve for the winter? :D
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How would you say they all compared with oral AAS if you know? I'm doing a Phera/Sdrol bridge with M1T/EPI.
 
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