LiveToLift will be joining the ranks of the gods (Mdrol/Andromass cycle)

hows your libido right now, me a mattrag were talking yesterday about the effects SERMs have on it. what dose of nolva are you running/weeks
 
Srt4Muscle said:
hows your libido right now, me a mattrag were talking yesterday about the effects SERMs have on it. what dose of nolva are you running/weeks
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It's really not too bad right now, thinking I can squeak by with 20/20/10/10
 
Oh how I missed the taste of liquid Nolva.....
 
LiveToLift said:
Oh how I missed the taste of liquid Nolva.....
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lol depends on which one you got, Glycerin or Alcohol. glycerin makes my tounge go numb lol i hate it, good for night time though cause i never want to eat after i take it.
 
Srt4Muscle said:
lol depends on which one you got, Glycerin or Alcohol. glycerin makes my tounge go numb lol i hate it, good for night time though cause i never want to eat after i take it.
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My syringe for oral is so strong I can just shoot the stuff straight down and barely even taste it.
 
probably alchohol then cause glycerin is sticky haha yeah alcohol ones go right down. in alcohol, i hold them in my mouth for a minute to get some good absorbtion in, well thats my theory at least haha. glycerin it take as fast as possible with a chaser...
 
I usually do the same, straight to back of throat, chased with milk and my protein drink. Just fucing stings like a mofo!
 
LiveToLift said:
I usually do the same, straight to back of throat, chased with milk and my protein drink. Just fucing stings like a mofo!
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That's what she said
 
Great first pct workout! Went in for some chest/tri work, strength was pretty good but pump was incredible! Body felt swole as all he!!, which made me feel real good. Probably the tightest my chest has felt in a long time. Details:

Flat bench
5x5 heaviest at 235

Incline bench
4x5 heaviest at 170

Wide press machine
4x5 heaviest at 230

Vbar pulldown
5x5 heaviest at 100

Weighted dips
4x5 heaviest at bw+35

This isn't a surprise to me that I felt so good today, it was my first time lifting after work in a very long time so my food consumption was up there and energy was high. Very happy with day 1! Wish I coulda set a PR but theres plenty of time!
 
LiveToLift said:
Great first pct workout! Went in for some chest/tri work, strength was pretty good but pump was incredible! Body felt swole as all he!!, which made me feel real good. Probably the tightest my chest has felt in a long time. Details:

Flat bench
5x5 heaviest at 235

Incline bench
4x5 heaviest at 170

Wide press machine
4x5 heaviest at 230

Vbar pulldown
5x5 heaviest at 100

Weighted dips
4x5 heaviest at bw+35

This isn't a surprise to me that I felt so good today, it was my first time lifting after work in a very long time so my food consumption was up there and energy was high. Very happy with day 1! Wish I coulda set a PR but theres plenty of time!
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Looks like the start of a great pct. Let's see you get some prs. :)
 
Srt4Muscle said:
probably alchohol then cause glycerin is sticky haha yeah alcohol ones go right down. in alcohol, i hold them in my mouth for a minute to get some good absorbtion in, well thats my theory at least haha. glycerin it take as fast as possible with a chaser...
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I open my gel caps sqirt a half cc or so into 2 or 3 of them and swallow

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Cardio day today, made it interesting by constantly hopping from machine to machine every 8 mins. Included was bike, elliptical, row machine, and arm bike. Calorie burn was near 300 for the day. Finished with abs, 10 mins on ab coaster and some hanging leg lifts. Weight was still at 175 today, hoping to stay near this weight through this pct!
 
LiveToLift said:
Cardio day today, made it interesting by constantly hopping from machine to machine every 8 mins. Included was bike, elliptical, row machine, and arm bike. Calorie burn was near 300 for the day. Finished with abs, 10 mins on ab coaster and some hanging leg lifts. Weight was still at 175 today, hoping to stay near this weight through this pct!
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Don't over do that cardio man! Eat up, rest, recover and you'll be all G!
 
mattrag said:
Don't over do that cardio man! Eat up, rest, recover and you'll be all G!
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I won't man, 2 cardio, 4 lift days and an off day is the current set up. Its doing wonders for my cut so I'm definitely going to continue doing it! Food consumption is up there and even though I'm drying out I'm managing to keep my weight up which tells me something! ;-)
 
PCT Day 4...

Killed it today! Went back to my modified 5x5 routine. Even set a few PR's today, which was sweet! Details:

Bike for a 6 minute warm up

Seated DB shoulder press
5x5 at 70lbs

Squats
5x5 heaviest at 225

Close grip bench
5x5 heaviest at 155 (PR)

Upright rows
4x5 at 110
1x7 at 110 (Going to start using barbells instead of the weighted straight bars so I can move up on this next week, could have set a PR if I had today)

Leg press
5x5 heaviest at 570 (PR)

Side laterals
3x5 at 40 lbs

Really pushed myself today, went in with low energy but seemed to push past it after my first few sets. Ended up with so much energy by the end that I had to drag myself out of the gym. About threw up a few times today because I just wouldn't give up on any set. Probably didn't help that I put about a scoop and a quarter of Maximize V2 in my preworkout rather then about 3/4 scoop. :eek5:
 
Wow. Nice prs in pct :)
Gotta love it. Lmao off at almost spewing because of the extra dose of pre workout haha!
 
mattrag said:
Wow. Nice prs in pct :)
Gotta love it. Lmao off at almost spewing because of the extra dose of pre workout haha!
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Yea I am such a PWO wimp! $hit tastes strong as hell to me. I don't know how people do 2 scoops of that stuff. I kept burping up the maximize burps with fish oil, wasn't pleasant!
 
Forgot to mention, weight was up to 177.5 today. Feel like I was holding some unnecessary weight around my stomach as I pigged out yesterday and today. Not sure though just glad that the scale went up and not down! Was sure I would go in and see 172 or something today. Feel like being off of the good stuff makes me melt away haha
 
LiveToLift said:
Forgot to mention, weight was up to 177.5 today. Feel like I was holding some unnecessary weight around my stomach as I pigged out yesterday and today. Not sure though just glad that the scale went up and not down! Was sure I would go in and see 172 or something today. Feel like being off of the good stuff makes me melt away haha
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You telling me... I am still holding on... but BARELY. I have had to UP my cals even more just to keep the weight up.
 
PCT Day 5..

Great workout today, set a few more PR's too which is exciting! Energy was pretty good, and libido is definitely starting to come back pretty strong. Details:

Lat pulldown (wide)
5x5 heaviest at 200 (PR)

Preacher EZ bar curl
5x5 heaviest at 100

Bent over BB row
5x5 heaviest at 195

Vbar pulldown (tris)
5x5 heaviest at 102.5

DB hammer curls
5x5 heaviest at 50, last set ran rack to 35's

Seated rows
2x5 at 160
1x5 at 180 (PR)

Very nice to see an increase in strength today! I hope this continues because its a hell of a feeling putting up this weight "Off". Appetite has been insane and weight today was still at 177!
 
LiveToLift said:
PCT Day 5..

Great workout today, set a few more PR's too which is exciting! Energy was pretty good, and libido is definitely starting to come back pretty strong. Details:

Lat pulldown (wide)
5x5 heaviest at 200 (PR)

Preacher EZ bar curl
5x5 heaviest at 100

Bent over BB row
5x5 heaviest at 195

Vbar pulldown (tris)
5x5 heaviest at 102.5

DB hammer curls
5x5 heaviest at 50, last set ran rack to 35's

Seated rows
2x5 at 160
1x5 at 180 (PR)

Very nice to see an increase in strength today! I hope this continues because its a hell of a feeling putting up this weight "Off". Appetite has been insane and weight today was still at 177!
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wow, interesting that you are experiencing an increase in appetite in PCT. Did you notice increased appetite when you were running the AMv3 solo?
Congrats on the PRs ;) I know I love um.
 
mattrag said:
wow, interesting that you are experiencing an increase in appetite in PCT. Did you notice increased appetite when you were running the AMv3 solo?
Congrats on the PRs ;) I know I love um.
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I would say if I did notice an increase it was only slight. Not sure man, AMV3 helped tone me up a bit but definitely wasn't a mass gainer for me. Was a bit disappointed with that, but all in all this cycle was beneficial for me though. Even after dropping the Mdrol my strength still went up, so strength gain is where AM really shined for me.
 
LiveToLift said:
I would say if I did notice an increase it was only slight. Not sure man, AMV3 helped tone me up a bit but definitely wasn't a mass gainer for me. Was a bit disappointed with that, but all in all this cycle was beneficial for me though. Even after dropping the Mdrol my strength still went up, so strength gain is where AM really shined for me.
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I'm hearing that AMv3 is more like a recomper than a mass gainer. I myself am temped to run it to see what results I could push from it. Seeing I got 15+pounds post PCT on Mdrol and AndroHard I think I would make AndroMassv3 a mass gainer lol. But recomp is nice. Wouldn't mind 3-5lbs of muscle over 8 weeks whilst getting shredded. :D
 
mattrag said:
I'm hearing that AMv3 is more like a recomper than a mass gainer. I myself am temped to run it to see what results I could push from it. Seeing I got 15+pounds post PCT on Mdrol and AndroHard I think I would make AndroMassv3 a mass gainer lol. But recomp is nice. Wouldn't mind 3-5lbs of muscle over 8 weeks whilst getting shredded. :D
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My guess is you would gain 20 lbs on AM!!! You are a freak!
 
PCT day 6..

Cardio/ab day turned into cardio/chest day.... Very happy it did though because I crushed chest for sure. Energy was through the roof today, had an amazing burn on the elliptical, 20 mins for a 175 calorie burn followed by bike for 9 mins for about 115 calories. Was going to finish with abs and call it a day but all the ab machines were taken, so I said screw it and pumped out a quick chest workout. Even crushed a previous PR and could have kept going if my shoulder didn't start to ache by the end. Weight was still at 176 today. Details:

Bench
5x5 heaviest at 235! (not losing any weight on this since dropping AM!!)

Incline bench
4x5 heaviest at 175

Wide Press machine
5x5 heaviest at 270 (PR)

Ended up very happy with my chest workout and still look swollen! Energy on cardio was also insane felt like I could have stayed on the elliptical for ever! I can tell my endurance is definitely improving this week.
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
Yeah bruv tear that chest up!
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Thanks bro, this cycle did a lot for chest. When I ran Hdrol my shoulders had the best strength increase. This run Chest is where it was at which feels amazing. Lookin back I was doing sets at 210 or 205 on bench and now I'm doing 235! A week into pct! Hell ya!
 
LiveToLift said:
Thanks bro, this cycle did a lot for chest. When I ran Hdrol my shoulders got he most sustained strength increase. This run Chest is where it was at which feels amazing. Lookin back I was doing sets at 210 or 205 on bench and now I'm doing 235! A week into pct! Hell ya!
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Keep it up !!!!
 
If I do use one it will probably be AM though. Just cause I fear sides of Gyno, over balding... lol.
 
PCT day 8...

Well guys, had ANOTHER amazing day at the gym. Strength is not only still there but its climbing, in pct!!! The drive I have right now is incredible and is really the difference in the pct then my last. I don't go in to just push the same weight as during cycle but have one goal and that's to push past previous PR's. Weight was still at 176 today. It has been a lot easier to hold on to this weight then I thought it was going to be. Details:

Seated shoulder press
5x5 heaviest at 155

Bent over barbell row
5x5 heaviest at 195 PR

Low row
5x5 heaviest at 185 PR

Pull-ups
5x6 BW

Shrugs
5x5 heaviest at 265

Upright rows
3x5 at 110

Vbar Pulldown
4x5 heaviest at 100

Ended up waiting until after my shift to workout today and it definitely payed off, endurance and energy were through the roof and strength was up for sure. Had a lot of substance today and my back is already feeling a bit sore (in a good way)! Libido is good but not 100 percent yet, I give it another few days and I should be right back on track in that department.
 
PCT Day 10...

Alright today I went in after my shift to pump out a bis/tris day but I need to get my deads in too. Little recap on how pct is going to start, weight is still at 176 which is very good. Strength is still high. Libido again is not 100 percent. Thinking I should have added a better natty booster then just the daa and fadogia, but its still early in pct so we will see. Details:

Straight bar curl
5x5 heaviest at 105

Deads
5x5 heaviest at 265

Close grip bench
5x5 heaviest at 160 (PR)

Vbar pulldown
5x5 heaviest at 105 (PR)

Incline DB
5x5 heaviest at 50 (PR)

DB overhead's
5x5 heaviest at 80

Really happy with the workout today, and the PR's are incredible. Think I'm actually gaining more strength in PCT then I was on, WTF? I also think I am pushing myself a lot harder then I did before in PCT because I am determined to keep my strength gains from this run. I will also be writing up a review on these products both individually and as a stack when I can get some time, sorry I haven't yet but my schedule has been hectic.
 
PCT Day 10...

Alright today I went in after my shift to pump out a bis/tris day but I need to get my deads in too. Little recap on how pct is going to start, weight is still at 176 which is very good. Strength is still high. Libido again is not 100 percent. Thinking I should have added a better natty booster then just the daa and fadogia, but its still early in pct so we will see. Details:

Straight bar curl
5x5 heaviest at 105

Deads
5x5 heaviest at 265

Close grip bench
5x5 heaviest at 160 (PR)

Vbar pulldown
5x5 heaviest at 105 (PR)

Incline DB
5x5 heaviest at 50 (PR)

DB overhead's
5x5 heaviest at 80

Really happy with the workout today, and the PR's are incredible. Think I'm actually gaining more strength in PCT then I was on, WTF? I also think I am pushing myself a lot harder then I did before in PCT because I am determined to keep my strength gains from this run. I will also be writing up a review on these products both individually and as a stack when I can get some time, sorry I haven't yet but my schedule has been hectic.
 
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Had to add a few pics of the pump today, it felt good!
 
Hmm.. perhaps the androgens are still there? Hmm... I doubt it actually day 10? Unless AM has a half life of like 3 days I doubt any of it is even still residual. I guess you just hit a hiccup on cycle and now you are coming back out of a natural slump. lol. Good news though! I leave my house in an hour, then about 15 hours till I get home... where I can get some legit SERMs plus run an AI to combat all this damn Estrogen.. oh yea plus the prolactin control... sigh... my PCT is hash... but you know what? We gonna kill it regardless.
 
mattrag said:
Hmm.. perhaps the androgens are still there? Hmm... I doubt it actually day 10? Unless AM has a half life of like 3 days I doubt any of it is even still residual. I guess you just hit a hiccup on cycle and now you are coming back out of a natural slump. lol. Good news though! I leave my house in an hour, then about 15 hours till I get home... where I can get some legit SERMs plus run an AI to combat all this damn Estrogen.. oh yea plus the prolactin control... sigh... my PCT is hash... but you know what? We gonna kill it regardless.
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Hell ya bro, glad to hear you are heading home! Once again hope you have a safe trip. As for the strength increases I think this cycle really just pushed me past the slump I was in, which is very exciting!
 
Marms said:
Can def. tell your paying your dues keep it UP !!
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Thanks bro, actually think I've been over training a bit had to force a day off yesterday. It seems like its paying off though, strength is up and definition is good.
 
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Had to add a few pics of the pump today, it felt good!
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GUNSHOW!!!! :redeemerwhore:


Putting some size on them guys bud!
 
RickRock13 said:
GUNSHOW!!!! :redeemerwhore:

Putting some size on them guys bud!
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Thanks man I sure hope! Been putting in the work for sure!
 
So here is a bit of a review that I may edit when I get to a computer but have a bit of time on lunch right now.

Total weight gain 7.5 pounds

Strength increases

Bench Sets at 210>235
Military press Sets at 145>155
Squats Sets at 225>235
Lat Pulldown Sets at 160>200


Mdrol

Pros: Quick weight gain
Huge strength gain
Cheap pricetag
Alpha male feeling
Incredible pump

Cons: Headaches were bad at times
Lethargy

Andromass V2/3 (ran v2 with Mdrol and v3 alone following the Mdrol/v2)

Pros: slight strength increase
Didn't feel toxic at all
Vascularity increase

Cons: PRICE
Heartburn/nasty burps
PRICE lol
Lethargy mainly just from v2

Overall cycle was great, held onto about 7 pounds as of now, strength increase was amazing and is still with me now! Mdrol was definitely more toxic then the Hdrol run I had and it was noticeable! AM was too expensive to justify running, sorry PP! Really thought I would see more weight gain overall too, the highest I saw was 12 pounds during v2/Mdrol but it quickly went down. I do however think that the strength that I gained from the mdrol would have been a lot tougher to keep had I not been running the AM. It was definitely a fun ride as expected.
 
PCT Day 11...

Was ready to kill it today, until I started to feel pain in my left bicep. It is the same injury I was plagued with a week or two ago. Its more of an achy feeling then anything. Ended up wrapping up the workout early and did about 15 mins of cardio to finish off the day. Details:

Flat bench
5x5 heaviest at 230

Decline bench
5x5 heaviest at 195 (PR)

Low Row
3x5 heaviest at 180

Leg press
5x5 heaviest at 500

10 mins on elliptical
5 mins on bike

Really discouraging to have this pain again as I thought it had passed. I'm heading out of town today and will have the next two days off from the gym so hopefully it will be enough to get some rest and heal up.
 
see ya when ya get back dont forget to take all your PCT supps while your out of town.
 
Srt4Muscle said:
see ya when ya get back dont forget to take all your PCT supps while your out of town.
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oh yea I made sure to, I didn't get all my doses on time but was sure to keep everything heavy on the system.
 
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