LiveToLift will be joining the ranks of the gods (Mdrol/Andromass cycle)

Marms said:
How do you like the 5x5?
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Love it so far man! Got so accustomed to doing 1 muscle group a day for so long it's nice to mix it up.
 
SURVIVED! The first cardio ab burn day today and it feels damn good. Started with 15 minutes on the bike constantly adjusting speed to keep HR at a good level, I believe it ended up being about 3 miles. Then I did a fifteen minute burn on the tredmill switching between incline speed walks and slightly incline job/run. Keeping heart rate up about 135 for the length of the burn. My legs were recked after this rotation, sweat was minumum and surprised I didn't have trouble keeping my breath being that I was a smoker up until about a year ago and haven't done any cardio before. Followed this workout with 20 minutes rotating between weighted ab coaster and hanging leg lifts. It did feel really good to get this first day out of the way and body feels hella tight even though my weight was still at 177!! Keep expecting to go into the gym and see like 174 but to my surprise it doesn't happen. When I'm not on cycle my weight was fluctuating between 165-170 day to day, weird that I'm seeing very little to no fluctuation in the last week. Hopefully its a good sign on what's to come in pct!
 
remember though if you up your workouts you need to up them calories. ;)
I hate abs... haha. Good job in hitting um bro!
 
mattrag said:
remember though if you up your workouts you need to up them calories. ;)
I hate abs... haha. Good job in hitting um bro!
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Yessir I agree with the upping the calories as mention a few posts ago! I will add a lot of lean protein sources to accomdate the burn, just love the ripped feeling I had after the cardio really felt tight as hell and I think in the long run it will help a lot. My main inspiration was RickRock in his transformation i read his old logs and noticed when he started the cardio he went from holding some weight on mid to being shredded. I'm going to try to give him a run for his money!!! ;-)
 
LiveToLift said:
Yessir I agree with the upping the calories as mention a few posts ago! I will add a lot of lean protein sources to accomdate the burn, just love the ripped feeling I had after the cardio really felt tight as hell and I think in the long run it will help a lot. My main inspiration was RickRock in his transformation i read his old logs and noticed when he started the cardio he went from holding some weight on mid to being shredded. I'm going to try to give him a run for his money!!! ;-)
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hehe, rick is the man.

Yea definitely cardio/anything aside from sitting down, will aid with better body comp.
 
mattrag said:
hehe, rick is the man.

Yea definitely cardio/anything aside from sitting down, will aid with better body comp.
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I'm twenty five now by 27 my goal is to look like my avatar! It is possible just must stay diligent and keep it clean! Lets do this!
 
Anyone have any thing to say about my next cycle that I'm preparing? Thinking about bridging epi-hdrol and running tren through the last 4-6 weeks. May do hdrol-epi and run tren for longer, not too familar with epi or tren so anyone have info that may assist me? When I say epi I mean Havoc.
 
LiveToLift said:
I'm twenty five now by 27 I my goal is to look like my avatar! It is possible just must stay diligent and keep it clean! Lets do this!
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Im sad to say that I am already 27... but I do NOT look like your avatar... You can do it though bro!!
 
mattrag said:
Im sad to say that I am already 27... but I do NOT look like your avatar... You can do it though bro!!
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We are still young and I've noticed we have the motivation and drive of teenagers! Theres always still time bro!
 
LiveToLift said:
Anyone have any thing to say about my next cycle that I'm preparing? Thinking about bridging epi-hdrol and running tren through the last 4-6 weeks. May do hdrol-epi and run tren for longer, not too familar with epi or tren so anyone have info that may assist me? When I say epi I mean Havoc.
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Im running EPI(havoc) right now at 50 for my last 3 weeks, i was at 40 for 2 weeks. i like 50 better lol my strength is great right now, out of nowhere i just power through my last sets. i like it alot, no lathargy like SD and im still getting super pumped.

i dont know what kind of tren your planning on running but you shouldnt run it without test, just something to think about. its hard for me to assume your talking about the inj. version but the oral version is so toxic i cant imagine where you would get the idea to run it lol.
 
Srt4Muscle said:
i figured i was missing something lol just thought i would ask haha, i cant keep up with you guys and your abbreviations.
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And they do have trenavar now. I have heard good things about that and I know they have logs for it at phf, I just haven't checked anything out.
 
yes trenavar is what I was talking about sorry should have elaborated...
 
Little off topic but fielder to tigers!!!!!! Yea!!!
 
LiveToLift said:
yes trenavar is what I was talking about sorry should have elaborated...
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This is what I have planned. Use androhard as my dht base, and kick start it with either ultra or super. ;)
 
mattrag said:
This is what I have planned. Use androhard as my dht base, and kick start it with either ultra or super. ;)
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Funny you should say that because that is what I have planned with the remaining mdrol i have in my stash is mdrol AH stack. Sounds good bro ill be watching!
 
Wow, nothing but amazing updates today! Woke up at about 6 and was drowzy as all hell but I must have stewed up the right pre-workout cause by the time I hit my third set I was flying. PW was 6 AM V3, 1 scoop maximize and 2 PLCAR. I killed it today all around, didn't want to stop hitting the weights even after pressing an hour in the gym. Even went up and did 15 minutes of cardio to cap the workout, uh oh. Details:

Straight bar Curl
5x5 finishing few sets at 100

Front laterals
5x5 all at 35 lb dbs

Tricep pulldowns
5x5 finished at 102.5 (PR)

Lat pulldown wide
5x5 180 last set

Bent over barbell row
5x5 finished at 185 PR, incredible strength here it was insane, just constantly added weight

Cardio consisted of 8 minutes on elliptical (never realized how tough this machine is, was sore as hell), 8 minutes on bike.

Weight was 178 today!! :-) Pump was back on track, looked almost as full as last week on Mdrol, really surprised me. Not sure what the hell was with me today but I feel damn good and know i killed it in the gym.
 
Good job killing it man!
 
AaronJP1 said:
Good job killing it man!
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Thanks man! Strength felt as good as Mdrol, not sure if its the V3 really kicking in or the maximize giving me wings but it was sweet. Nice freaking avatar btw, WOW...
 
mattrag said:
Well plus the tren.... I did AH and sdrol this last run. Great stuff ;)
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Believe me I know I followed! A$$hole LMAO! what did you gain 35 lbs or something :)(: I hate you!!!!!! JK but seriously wtf man
 
LiveToLift said:
Thanks man! Strength felt as good as Mdrol, not sure if its the V3 really kicking in or the maximize giving me wings but it was sweet. Nice freaking avatar btw, WOW...
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Thx.

What part Ohio u from? Use to live in Cleveland
 
AaronJP1 said:
Thx.

What part Ohio u from? Use to live in Cleveland
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Perrysburg, 5 miles southwest of toledo
 
Mini review on AM solo

Pros
Maintaining Strength
Maintaining Weight
No lethargy!!
Seems to be giving me added energy and drive in gym
vascular increase

Cons
The huge one time dose is causing stomach pain so I tend to take 1 large dose and 1 small dose
Heartburn/gross burps
 
LiveToLift said:
Believe me I know I followed! A$$hole LMAO! what did you gain 35 lbs or something :)(: I hate you!!!!!! JK but seriously wtf man
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Hhaah. I know. Thought you were thinking I was gonna do an mdrol androhard run again lol. ;)
Gained 20lbs since I last updated. So about 7 weeks 20lbs.
 
Alright so I got an email today for a good deal on Erase pro, went ahead and picked up a bottle of it as I'm curious how good this sh!t really is. May be substituting that for the RV2, also picked up a bunch of extra goodies at nutra to tweak my pre-workout a bit. On my way to gym in a few minutes will update when I get back. Going in for chest today! Hopefully hit that 235 again!
 
Smashed 235 and still had gas should have went for 240 today....
 
LiveToLift said:
Smashed 235 and still had gas should have went for 240 today....
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Leave some for the next workout. ;)

Erase pro- I'd use it instead of the resv2
I'm using it solo though. After my pct staring mid feb ;)
 
mattrag said:
Leave some for the next workout. ;)

Erase pro- I'd use it instead of the resv2
I'm using it solo though. After my pct staring mid feb ;)
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Thats what I thought. Didn't want to shell out the retail for it though for sure...
 
Great strength today for chest. Energy was good, could have probably gone for a PR on bench but completely underestimated AM. Today was the first bench day since I dropped Mdrol and I figured I would be down 10 lbs from then. Yet I actually put up the same PR weight I set on it and had more gas then when I set it the first time could have easily pumped out either more reps or more weight. Details:

Flat bench
5x5 Heaviest at 235

Incline DB for 2 sets, Incline barbell for 3
2X5 75
3x5 heaviest at 165

Shrugs
5x5 heaviest at 285

Tbar row
5x5 heaviest at 135

Close grip bench
5x5 heaviest at 145

Liking the new routine a lot, keeps me interested until the last set. Was at the point with single body group workouts where I would tend to lose interest by the last sets. Not doing it strictly how any program is set up just kind of using layouts as a skeleton for my workout and making changes where I feel necessary. Weight still at 177 today.
 
LiveToLift said:
Great strength today for chest. Energy was good, could have probably gone for a PR on bench but completely underestimated AM. Today was the first bench day since I dropped Mdrol and I figured I would be down 10 lbs from then. Yet I actually put up the same PR weight I set on it and had more gas then when I set it the first time could have easily pumped out either more reps or more weight. Details:

Flat bench
5x5 Heaviest at 235

Incline DB for 2 sets, Incline barbell for 3
2X5 75
3x5 heaviest at 165

Shrugs
5x5 heaviest at 285

Tbar row
5x5 heaviest at 135

Close grip bench
5x5 heaviest at 145

Liking the new routine a lot, keeps me interested until the last set. Was at the point with single body group workouts where I would tend to lose interest by the last sets. Not doing it strictly how any program is set up just kind of using layouts as a skeleton for my workout and making changes where I feel necessary. Weight still at 177 today.
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How long are you going to do this routine?
I think im stealing it from you :)
 
Marms said:
How long are you going to do this routine?
I think im stealing it from you :)
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Going to try it out for a month and if it goes good I will extend it to about 8 weeks and then try a new style. Love it so far, try it out bro I've been having a lot of fun with it for sure!
 
5x5 is great for strength. And I like it because it gives adequate time to recover with the 1 on 1 off pattern. :D

Plus I dont really go to failure all the time. ;)
 
Pure cardio/ab day. Hit the treadmill for 16 mins of a incline speed walk and slightly incline run rotation. Think the total burn was around 175 calories. Went straight to bike for a ten minute burn. Really felt like my endurance was a lot better today then it was a few days ago which is a plus. Followed these up with 20 mins of weighted ab coaster and hanging leg lifts. Followed by 8 mins on the elliptical. Weight still around 177, :-) body feels tight and muscles had a nice pump even without doing any lifting.
 
LiveToLift said:
Pure cardio/ab day. Hit the treadmill for 16 mins of a incline speed walk and slightly incline run rotation. Think the total burn was around 175 calories. Went straight to bike for a ten minute burn. Really felt like my endurance was a lot better today then it was a few days ago which is a plus. Followed these up with 20 mins of weighted ab coaster and hanging leg lifts. Followed by 8 mins on the elliptical. Weight still around 177, :-) body feels tight and muscles had a nice pump even without doing any lifting.
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Good job getting the cardio in... something I just can't do here... I guess I could... but i don't like out door cardio.
 
Amazing strength yet again today! Details:

Seated Shoulder press
5x5 Heaviest at 170 (PR crushed it today!)

Deadlifts
5x5 Heaviest at 270 (PR, I think anyway)

chin ups
4x5 BW
1x9 BW

Side laterals
5x5 heaviest at 40

Flat DB fly's
4x5
1x7 at 50

Really good energy and could not even believe the strength today. Kind of steering away from the outline 5x5 that I was going by and just doing what I want to get done. In any case damn these sessions feel amazing and had a moment today while finishing a set at looking in the mirror where I said damn you've come a long way. Really had to stop and applaud myself mentally as corny as it sounds. Had a lot of extra boost from watching Bigger, faster, stronger before hitting the gym. Can't believe I had never watched it before.
 
Also looked up arnolds cycle log and he ran 26 weeks of Dbol with anavar and others and then repeated with no pct??? WTF Correct me if that isn't completely accurate but damn I feel a little less worried about the cycles I have ran now....
 
LiveToLift said:
Also looked up arnolds cycle log and he ran 26 weeks of Dbol with anavar and others and then repeated with no pct??? WTF Correct me if that isn't completely accurate but damn I feel a little less worried about the cycles I have ran now....
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Aside from the fact that Arnold was a genetic freak I think they DID do pcts. They probably called it like gyno protection or something. A bodybuilder from the 1970s said all the bodybuilders had access to clomid and nolva in the days. Would make sense though if he was just taking lower doses off competition then upped it to super high doses for prep.
Either way lol. The stuff we run is mild but still need the pct lol.
I liked bigger faster stronger as well. Lol.
 
mattrag said:
Aside from the fact that Arnold was a genetic freak I think they DID do pcts. They probably called it like gyno protection or something. A bodybuilder from the 1970s said all the bodybuilders had access to clomid and nolva in the days. Would make sense though if he was just taking lower doses off competition then upped it to super high doses for prep.
Either way lol. The stuff we run is mild but still need the pct lol.
I liked bigger faster stronger as well. Lol.
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In no means will it make me more destructive just eases my paranoid mind when it comes to harming my body, it is not good for organs but look at all the things people do these days that are more destructive and deadly. I'm glad this is the hobby I chose....
 
LiveToLift said:
In no means will it make me more destructive just eases my paranoid mind when it comes to harming my body, it is not good for organs but look at all the things people do these days that are more destructive and deadly. I'm glad this is the hobby I chose....
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Better than drinking alcohol, smoking etc. ;)
 
LiveToLift said:
In no means will it make me more destructive just eases my paranoid mind when it comes to harming my body, it is not good for organs but look at all the things people do these days that are more destructive and deadly. I'm glad this is the hobby I chose....
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see my 11 week cycle dont look that bad when you see 100mg dbol cycle for 20 weeks staight combined with other orals lmao, hey arnold had good genitics but i wouldnt say his liver was better than mine. we def need pct but when i started reading into history and past cycles like that it aslo eased my mind.
 
mattrag said:
Aside from the fact that Arnold was a genetic freak I think they DID do pcts. They probably called it like gyno protection or something. A bodybuilder from the 1970s said all the bodybuilders had access to clomid and nolva in the days. Would make sense though if he was just taking lower doses off competition then upped it to super high doses for prep.
Either way lol. The stuff we run is mild but still need the pct lol.
I liked bigger faster stronger as well. Lol.
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Clomid etc didn't come out til the late 80s so no they didn't pct
 
schwellington said:
Clomid etc didn't come out til the late 80s so no they didn't pct
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says in the wiki its been used since the 1960s.

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here is a study of its use dating 1971. They had it. Or at least it was out there. Wether they used it or not cant be confirmed.. but it was produced.
 
Srt4Muscle said:
see my 11 week cycle dont look that bad when you see 100mg dbol cycle for 20 weeks staight combined with other orals lmao, hey arnold had good genitics but i wouldnt say his liver was better than mine. we def need pct but when i started reading into history and past cycles like that it aslo eased my mind.
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The liver is amazing.
 
sorry to turn your log into a arnold chat room, but i sure would like to see if he ever had any blood work done. couldnt find anything on google...wonder what his test levels and estrogen levels looked like in the early 90's
 
Killed it today! Set a PR on bench and felt amazing. Pump today was probably the best I've had in a few weeks. Details:

Flat Bench
5x5 heaviest at 240! (PR)

Incline bench
5x5 heaviest at 185

Pull up wide
4x5 BW
1x7 BW

Tbar rows
5x5 heaviest at 130

Vbar pulldown (tris)
5x5 heaviest at 102.5

Almost wanted to throw in some cardio because I felt so good today, but had to head out as I'm having dinner at the parents house and have to go into work in a few hours. Very happy with strength going up every day! 245 or bust for next chest day!
 
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